Ah I see. Is there any statement by Square-Enix on the subject?
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Final Fantasy VII Remake General Discussion Thread [Open Spoilers for Original FFVII ONLY please!]
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Ah I see. Is there any statement by Square-Enix on the subject?
When SE staff told him that he actually broke down into tears.
I can't imagine how it must feel for some of the people who made your favorite game of all time to turn to your content for morale while remake said favorite game of all time.
There's some feels there.
That would be zones like DQXI but larger and not a full world map, which I don't mind.
I won't be surprised if the sectors in this are made like bigger, Lightning Returns like, zones. With similar side quests. I really don't mind.
Yoshinori Kitase: I can't give you full details exactly how many times, where they're referenced, or anything like that, but what I want to let you know is that all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake interview: "This had to be a complete standalone game, a real satisfying gaming experience"
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a unique beast, a video game that requires considerations not common in other titles under de…
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Yoshinori Kitase: I can't give you full details exactly how many times, where they're referenced, or anything like that, but what I want to let you know is that all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake interview: "This had to be a complete standalone game, a real satisfying gaming experience"
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a unique beast, a video game that requires considerations not common in other titles under de…
Does it mean it is canon? Like direct canon? You probably think Genesis will be in this multi-part Saga epic.
Yoshinori Kitase: I can't give you full details exactly how many times, where they're referenced, or anything like that, but what I want to let you know is that all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake interview: "This had to be a complete standalone game, a real satisfying gaming experience"
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a unique beast, a video game that requires considerations not common in other titles under de…
Well there it is. The Compilation is canon to the Remake.
it would be so wild to see genesis in the remake. i don't think we will and at best there will just be references to it but if crisis core is actually canon then genesis was at nibleheim
I think one of the episodes needs to be called "Reunion" but that's probably gonna be part 3. I honestly don't think this is going to be a trilogy. I considered it but just the stretch of land from leaving Kalm to departing Junon is about the length of going through all of Midgar. So I'm gonna say part 3 starts at Costa Del Sol to the end of what happens in the Forgotten City. And part 4 is from that point on to the end of the game.
If was to plan the game, I think each episode stopping point make sense at each Jenova boss fight but that isn't the case here.
I mean if we were to break down the length it takes to go through all of Midgar in the Remake in terms of the original release in 4 to 5 hours. I guess another 4 to 5 hours to the end of Junon and the fight with Jenova Birth.
Chapter 3 taking us all the way to the end with Forgotten City with Jenova Life, and 4th and final would be the entire Reunion portion with Jenova Death and the end game at the Northern Crater.
Lets see how this actually pans out.
If was to plan the game, I think each episode stopping point make sense at each Jenova boss fight but that isn't the case here.
I mean if we were to break down the length it takes to go through all of Midgar in the Remake in terms of the original release in 4 to 5 hours. I guess another 4 to 5 hours to the end of Junon and the fight with Jenova Birth.
Chapter 3 taking us all the way to the end with Forgotten City with Jenova Life, and 4th and final would be the entire Reunion portion with Jenova Death and the end game at the Northern Crater.
Lets see how this actually pans out.
If this game uses "re" name scheme, I guess "Rebirth" and "Reunion" are good candidates.
But this is Square Enix and Nomura... so I can't possibly imagine what sort of name scheme they will come up with the future games.
Wasn't there someone that complained that the Loveless thing was tacked on into the Remake? I distinctly recall this was also in the 1997 original game. When the intro with Aerith and you see people walking through the streets there is a theater with large loveless banners as you zoom out to see the entirety of Midgar.
EDIT: I knew I remembered correctly.
In fact when you meet Cid in the 1997 original he goes on a rant about the Loveless play at one point.
I never played Crisis Core and its not available digitally because I would have no problem playing it it on my Vita if the option was available to me.
EDIT: I knew I remembered correctly.
In fact when you meet Cid in the 1997 original he goes on a rant about the Loveless play at one point.
I never played Crisis Core and its not available digitally because I would have no problem playing it it on my Vita if the option was available to me.
I read the whole explanation as
"the ideas and lore are canon, but may not be 1:1 as they were in the compilation."
Like lets say they take Crisis Core. There's high chance they rewrite some of those things to the remake's stuff. Like lets say Genesis exists, but what he did in it may not be fully the same. We already know they are taking ideas from Before Crisis, but they may not use everything. Like I don't expect us to see a WEAPON flying around the planet hunting the exiled Turks that killed that ultimate summon a sect of Avalanche summoned
I think thats why they said the compilation is its own thing, but its ideas will still be a part of remake
Yoshinori Kitase: I can't give you full details exactly how many times, where they're referenced, or anything like that, but what I want to let you know is that all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake interview: "This had to be a complete standalone game, a real satisfying gaming experience"
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a unique beast, a video game that requires considerations not common in other titles under de…
Excellent.
MAn that blows, the only reason I thought people liked the compilation is because people were getting another game that was set in FF7 world and the thought of a Remake at the time was impossible. But now they are remaking the game, so they'll have the need to all that Deepground crap, awful Crisis Core melodramatic ending and other fanfic tier stuff that Nomura and Kitase vomited out during the 2000's.Yoshinori Kitase: I can't give you full details exactly how many times, where they're referenced, or anything like that, but what I want to let you know is that all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake interview: "This had to be a complete standalone game, a real satisfying gaming experience"
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a unique beast, a video game that requires considerations not common in other titles under de…
EDIT: Then again I shouldn't be surprised with that Watchers of Fate shit being added on and attacking Aerith when you first meet her.
I mean I sure hope so, but I dont see how it being challenging on Normal should lock us out on a Hardmode right of the bat.
A bunch of people thought Loveless was a compilation thing and including it in the Remake tarnished the original game lol.
also:
Final Fantasy VII Remake Creators Discuss Rebuilding Midgar
Producer Yoshinori Kitase and co-director Naoki Hamaguchi detail the big changes to the iconic city ahead of its PS4 debut.
blog.us.playstation.com
I was hoping that article would have detail about the playable area of Midgar.
I feel much more positive on the remake after playing the demo, even if for me personally the combat system was never in doubt. I am still hoping for maybe one or two largish hub areas with shops and NPCs and not for it to be totally like Crisis Core which is the vibe I get off the demo. Maybe like a way larger scale Persona game, something like that would be nice (in terms of explorable zones/downtime not social links)
I feel much more positive on the remake after playing the demo, even if for me personally the combat system was never in doubt. I am still hoping for maybe one or two largish hub areas with shops and NPCs and not for it to be totally like Crisis Core which is the vibe I get off the demo. Maybe like a way larger scale Persona game, something like that would be nice (in terms of explorable zones/downtime not social links)
It was mentioned in an interview that you will explore Midgar and some areas are reachable by vehicle. So sounds like there will be hubs. Plus there's wall market.
Really nice, thanks for sharing. That was a fun read.Final Fantasy VII Remake Creators Discuss Rebuilding Midgar
Producer Yoshinori Kitase and co-director Naoki Hamaguchi detail the big changes to the iconic city ahead of its PS4 debut.
Holy shit they're actually keeping that.
Well there's already a difference from compilation that's the Buster sword thats the og design, there's also differences in the og story that we can see in the demo, or trailers, so i think kitase means is that they Will use compilation stuff (the same can be Said of the og game) and adapt as they wish, and not that every thing is canon to the remake.
At the preview event Kitase explained to me that the remake is in a different universe, but "all of the lore from the works created after the original game, the Compilation of Final Fantasy 7, that's all very much in the base of the canon for the remake, and going forward it will be too."
So basically, if they want to contradict/change stuff from the compilation they will, but the compilation is the basis. You can already see this in swathes of the Before Crisis lore/expansion of AVALANCHE being visible in the game, for instance, and Crisis Core is sure to be almost entirely drafted in as the story unfolds over future games. That new SOLDIER character uses the same 'standard issue' SOLDIER sword introduced in Crisis Core, too, the one Zack uses before he gets the Buster Sword. There's Advent Children music in the game, btw - a new arrangement of an Advent Children track is really prominent in Chapter 2, which hasn't been released to the public in a video form yet, but I played.
Square Enix blog goes into spoiler territory (Chapter 2) with FFVIIR
square-enix-games.com
reminder that they wrote this last year
square-enix-games.com
How FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE expands and adds to the story | Square Enix Blog
How does FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE expand the story of the original game? We explain the team's approach and provide a few examples of what's new.
reminder that they wrote this last year
When is it okay to reveal videogame spoilers? | Square Enix Blog
Is it ever okay to spoil a big moment from a game? How many years should you wait until plot points can be discussed freely? We discuss FINAL FANTASY spoilers and more...
Holy shit they're actually keeping that.
Ohh man, fuck sakes.
I'm just gonna be sitting at that screen for probably a good 20 minutes.
I want to know so badly if affection points will carry over for each part.
IMHO Crisis Core should be canon to the Remake, just leave out Genesis from Nibelheim scene (only thing that really irks me) and we're good. Zack story is really well told, I like his banter with Cloud, felt authentic and true, I just want the Remake to address that same story. The post credit scene of Crisis Core leads perfectly with Remake.
The only thing that irks me is the fact that Buster Sword design is different (I like og more), but maybe Cloud himself changed it to his own taste, I dunno lol.
What do you think the chances are of letting Aeris live? I really don't want that. They might be that's the only way to surprise people like when they killed her off in the first place, but I thought her death is really important with the world building of the Cetra and I love how she saves everyone with her Cetra powers at the end. I really want to see that again in the modern presentation.
I'm open to most changes here, but Aerith living would be 100 percent a no-go for me. I'd leak salt for days.
Of every game I ever played. Final Fantasy VII was the only time which soundtrack enthralled me so much to buy it. Back then I purchased the soundtrack from www.gamemusic.com but the website no longer exists.
OST cost me $50 which also the price of the game itself. Well back then when games MSRP was $49.99 during the PSX and PS2 days.
The website no longer exists unfortunately and only remnants can be found via the internet archive around 2009 or so. Haven't found an equivalent one stop shop for all Game OST purchases since then.
I wonder if the FF7 OST was revisited in a higher quality blu-ray audio release. I mean I like my CDs, but I wouldn't mind a higher quality version.
OST cost me $50 which also the price of the game itself. Well back then when games MSRP was $49.99 during the PSX and PS2 days.
The website no longer exists unfortunately and only remnants can be found via the internet archive around 2009 or so. Haven't found an equivalent one stop shop for all Game OST purchases since then.
I wonder if the FF7 OST was revisited in a higher quality blu-ray audio release. I mean I like my CDs, but I wouldn't mind a higher quality version.
Holy shit they're actually keeping that.
Tifa.
ALWAYS Tifa.
my body would combust from salt mixing with tears of anger
I'm a bit concerned when they threw out the watchmen of fate, like you defeat them and change Aeris' fate, like they're the grim reaper and being disconnected from the compilation like it actually meant because she's dead in them. And all the wishes to save Aeris, I hope they don't pander too much
Anyone who at the menu in the demo: can you bleep the swears on the voice track? Bit of a shame that I cannot play this with my FF loving little lad.
How old's the kid? It's only a few s-bombs, I believe, if that makes a differences.
And Jessie likening the reactor explosion to an orgasm, but that'll probably fly over kids' heads, lol
6. If he was - say - 11 perhaps. He loves it all via FFX and World Of Final Fantasy, Oh well, he can get into it when part 3 is out or something!
The compilation shit being part of the Remakes lore kind of has me excited. It wasn't ALL bad and I'm sure they could improve on those things without taking away anything from the original. As long as they don't like completely rewrite the 2nd and 3rd part of the game to incorporate that stuff. Hell FF8 style Crisis Core flashback sections taking place randomly throughout part 2 and 3 would be sick.
A lot of the compilation wasn't terrible in concept, but rather had rough execution.
Besides, my guess is they'll lean on Zack's story the most, if anything. And that was the best part of the compilation, Gackt silliness aside.
I think a Zack Story DLC would be a cool extra for whatever part his story gets revealed in.
I could deal with a little bit of it, though I would hope its limited.
I'm not terribly purist about this remake, but part of the reason her death was so impactful was because of just how starkly gone she was, you know?
Briana White, Aerith's voice actress, pretty heavily implies in this article that they're seeing her story through.
I wonder if they've started recording anything for the second game yet. Good article too. I hope people end up liking the performances despite the mixed first impressions, because everyone seems really passionate about it.
I wonder if they've started recording anything for the second game yet. Good article too. I hope people end up liking the performances despite the mixed first impressions, because everyone seems really passionate about it.
SE will burn to the ground if they change her death haha so I don't see that changing.
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