Famitsu: Mega Evolutions and Z-moves have been removed from Pokémon Sword and Shield

[VegiHam]

Mega evos robbed us of new pokemon in gen six and I've held a grudge ever since, but this is daft.

(Yes I know megas are new pokemon but they don't get new pokedex numbers and I can't add them to my living dex so as a catch em all single player kinda guy they aren't thee same thing.)

 

[Mashy]

Mega's were a cool mechanic. Dynamaxing is just plain trash and lazy in comparison.

 

[Benzychenz]

Lmao at everyone here going

"Good because muh balance"

They can just ban them from competitive like many legendaries have been for ages.

Just say you're glad we're getting less content because you don't like some designs or the option to have them.

Less options are good if it's stuff I don't like!

This is the let's go defense all over again.

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What if I don't care about competitive play?

I hate megas because of what their inclusion means. Pokemon like Pinsir and Mawile were made to never be able to receive a proper new evolution, as well as the stupid favouritism of Charizard getting two forms and Venusaur/Blastoise only getting one.

Let's just keep the megas in the 3DS generation games and quietly move on and pretend they never happened.

 

[Deleted member 34949]

Pidgeot at least being semi viable was nice while it lasted.

Back to being a neat design and shit tier in every other aspect, I guess.

 

[XaviConcept]

yeah great, less content.
fair weather explains a lot of this type of mentality

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More content doesnt equal better, design by substraction can be much more powerful than just adding everything from previous games.

And yes, I would argue its important for Pokemon games to remain accessible to everyone. Its the first main gameon a home console so it needs to be a jumping point for a lot of players.

 

[brinstar]

More content doesnt equal better, design by substraction can be much more powerful than just adding everything from previous games.

And yes, I would argue its important for Pokemon games to remain accessible to everyone. Its the first main gameon a home console so it needs to be a jumping point for a lot of players.

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Let's Go already was that. And Mega Pokemon had basically become bonus postgame content for people who wanted them in the last games. They wouldn't get in the way of new players.

 

[XaviConcept]

Let's Go already was that. And Mega Pokemon had basically become bonus postgame content for people who wanted them in the last games. They wouldn't get in the way of new players.

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Depends, no content is free. Has to be designed, produced, implemented, tested ... all that gets in the way of making new stuff for a new game.

Lets Go was for Pokemon Go players, S&S is for people who dont like portable gaming and are curious about what a console game will be like. Focus on the new stuff and make that compelling instead of forcing legacy stuff in, thats generally a good idea.

 

[Serebii]

It's possible that they can and will be readded in future titles or via patch. They're not gone forever.

Besides, they said this in Treehouse and that's where Famitsu got it from, not from the interview itself.

 

[Fj0823]

What if I don't care about competitive play?

I hate megas because of what their inclusion means. Pokemon like Pinsir and Mawile were made to never be able to receive a proper new evolution, as well as the stupid favouritism of Charizard getting two forms and Venusaur/Blastoise only getting one.

Let's just keep the megas in the 3DS generation games and quietly move on and pretend they never happened.

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I hate content because it's not the content I wanted for my favorite! Take it all away!

What is this bullshit?

Also, we don't even know if the game even has Pinsir or Mawile. At all.

Let's just quietly leave them in the 3DS era, and pretend they never happened shall we?

 

[Bard]

Hated megas and was indifferent to zmoves so I don't see this as a negative.

 

[Zellia]

Megas actually involved Pokemon getting cool redesigns and, while they made missteps, it gave some underappreciated Pokemon a day in the limelight.

I can see why they don't want that overshadowing 'uh it's a Pokemon but it's big'

 

[Benzychenz]

I hate content because it's not the content I wanted for my favorite! Take it all away!

What is this bullshit?

Also, we don't even know if the game even has Pinsir or Mawile. At all.

Let's just quietly leave them in the 3DS era, and pretend they never happened shall we?

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Bullshit?

It's called an opinion.

You like megas. I don't. That's fine. Cut the aggression.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Bullshit?

It's called an opinion.

You like megas. I don't. That's fine. Cut the aggression.

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cut coming into a thread to post your bait "opinion"

 

[Charlie0108]

I never really liked the designs of the Megas so not particularly sad to see them go

 

[Rand a. Thor]

So basically fuck consistency, we'll just keep adding new battle gimmicks with Kanto exclusive forms and power ups, only to abandon them one gen later. Yep, Gamefreak has lost it for me. Sword and Shield is looking yo be a great addition to the series as a region and new pokemon go, but holy fuck are the devs going on a war path of bad decisions.

 

[Fj0823]

Bullshit?

It's called an opinion.

You like megas. I don't. That's fine. Cut the aggression.

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You're defending cut content on a game that might not even have the Pokemon you so want "real evolutions for"

It's bullshit.

 

[Valkerion]

I really liked Megas, Z moves were just overly long animations to one shot something though. Also not that surprised. Pokemon regularly has a crisis when it comes to keeping old mechanics.

Actually, I'm pretty surprised to see Megas go. It became clear they were not going to expand on the idea but some of those forms became very popular.

 

[Akainu]

To add something more ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 2793]

Cutting Pokémon is always bad. Doesn't matter that they're mega.

 

[Deleted member 1570]

RIP

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Cutting Pokémon is always bad. Doesn't matter that they're mega.

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but 'skips, it doesnt bother Them so its fine.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Y'all make me mad.

RIP Mega Evolution. I loved seeing some Pokemon achieve a new form past the one they had. And it should have just stayed as a fourth evolution.

Depends, no content is free. Has to be designed, produced, implemented, tested ... all that gets in the way of making new stuff for a new game.

Lets Go was for Pokemon Go players, S&S is for people who dont like portable gaming and are curious about what a console game will be like. Focus on the new stuff and make that compelling instead of forcing legacy stuff in, thats generally a good idea.

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Oh this makes me so mad. Sounds exactly what Game Freak is saying in regards to cutting out groups of Pokemon from being transferred from Home to Sw/Sh and using Dynamax as a reasoning along with animations.

 

[Normal]

Getting rid of Mega's is so dumb. It finally give Pokemon like Charizard,Beedrill, Mawile, etc a chance to be useful. RIP Beedrill, back to PU you go along with Charizard.

 

[AnansiThePersona]

This is such fucking trash because it means I'll never see Mega Ampharos ever again. Goodnight, my sweet, L'Oreal prince

 

[Death Penalty]

Wow, RIP mega evolution, I really liked that mechanic and how it revitalized lots of Pokemon. Dynamaxing really just seems like a stupider version of it.

 

[Glass]

Can they remove Dynamaxing from Sword and Shield whilst they're at it?

 

[Fj0823]

but 'skips, it doesnt bother Them so its fine.

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I hated them because they meant my favorite Pokemon didn't get a REAL evolution so it's fine!

Meanwhile their favorite isn't even in the generation at all because of all the cut content

 

[Pokemaniac]

The battle gimmicks are really getting out of hand. Especially with Dynamax seemingly purposefully designed to never appear again. They really need to break out of this mentality they have where they feel the need to introduce a new one every generation.

 

[AnansiThePersona]

I hate content because it's not the content I wanted for my favorite! Take it all away!

What is this bullshit?

Also, we don't even know if the game even has Pinsir or Mawile. At all.

Let's just quietly leave them in the 3DS era, and pretend they never happened shall we?

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Yeah I am pretty confident Pinsir an Mawile aren't in that PokeDex lol

 

[Jack Frost]

Can they remove Dynamaxing from Sword and Shield whilst they're at it?

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Rest assured it won't be in Gen 9, at least.

 

[ffdgh]

Wasn't big on them but removing them completely is stupid.

 

[Deleted member 6230]

Removing megas is fucking BOLD but I can't say I hate it. Definitely not going to miss Z moves. To be honest this is something they had to do for competitive play at least. Imagine having to worry about a mega, a z-move, and now dynamaxing all in the same match. Yeesh.

 

[Darknight34]

This 1-2 punch of absent pokemon and removing these..goodness..pull a sonic and delay it because my excitement is in the trash.

 

[Chibs]

Such a shame, Mega Evolutions had some great designs.

 

[Fj0823]

Removing megas is fucking BOLD but I can't say I hate it. Definitely not going to miss Z moves. To be honest this is something they had to do for competitive play at least. Imagine having to worry about a mega, a z-move, and now dynamaxing all in the same match. Yeesh.

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Maybe just dont do Dynamax?

 

[Pokemaniac]

While I can mostly understand removing Z-moves, taking out megas is pretty dumb and emblematic of the issues with Sword and Shield in general. They're basically a full form change, so they should be kept around just like all the Pokémon should be kept around.

Seriously though, the really need to pick a gimmick and stick with it and build upon it.

 

[Deleted member 11370]

I never cared about Z-Moves, but Megas are cool. Dynamaxing sounds extremely boring.

 

[Deleted member 6230]

Maybe just dont do Dynamax?

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Dynamax on paper seems like a more balanced compromise between the two at this point

 

[Kaseoki]

Kill these generational gimmicks and just give us the goddamn national dex!

 

[Corrie1960]

Jesus game freak your slowly becoming the absolute worst

Only half the Pokémon and your butchering mega's and z moves

I know your hard up for time because you can to sync up the release with the next anime, card game, movie and more but still

So what happens in Gen 9 no gigamaxing it's gone for the next game.

Hire more staff

 

[Benzychenz]

You're defending cut content on a game that might not even have the Pokemon you so want "real evolutions for"

It's bullshit.

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I mean, that's fine if those Pokemon aren't in this game. If they actually commit to removing megas for all future generations then yeah maybe Pinsir will get an actual evolution in gen 9 or 10 or whatever, and I'll see this as the best way to go. Megas were a mistake that should be rectified.

 

[Nali]

There's some neat designs among the megas, but they never sat right with me as a way to make unloved pokemon more appealing, since it focused all the attention on a handful of lucky winners and left hundreds of others in the dust. Never mind that a good chunk of the megas were for species that were already popular and useful and didn't need the help, so the design intent of it was muddled from the beginning.

Still kinda surprised they're gone, though. Seemed too marketable to die.

 

[ToddBonzalez]

Game Freak's gimmicky battle mechanics that are basically tossed out after 1 gen are definitely one of the most frustrating parts of recent Pokémon games.

And for the record- Mega Evolution was pretty cool. Z-moves were meh. Dynamaxing seems lame, but I'll withhold final judgment until I play it.

 

[Titik]

I loved some of the designs for Megas too but I'm glad they removed it.

Either you keep adding to it or don't even bother adding it in the first place.

 

[psynergyadept]

I actually liked megas.....awww man.

 

[Psittacus]

And the other 37 species? Think this through nice and slowly.

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Oh no I was agreeing with you

 

[Harry Potter Obama]

I'm fine with this. I liked some of the mega designs but wasn't a fan of the system as a whole.

 

[Deleted member 8593]

Between this and the national dex fiasco there's a hollow satisfaction in knowing that Game Freak's shortsightedness is finally coming back to bite them in the ass. I was never a huge fan of Megas and even less so of Z-Moves so their exclusion doesn't bother me that much personally but it's become a really dumb practice of theirs over the years to throw in stuff just to remove it again. There was a subset of the fanbase that kept defending it and now it's finally affected the one thing the hardcore holds dear - the Pokémon roster.

 

[Toxi]

RIP

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My favorite part is how the normally blankly smiling Sun and Moon protagonist breaks out in a psychopathic grin.

 

[riq]

So when Game Freak said they considered Megas new Pokemon they weren't kidding huh?