That an archetype falls out of fashion is in NO WAY comparable to erasing entire mechanics from a game.
You have shown that you have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm not the only poster to point it out.
Have a good one. Bye
Famitsu: Mega Evolutions and Z-moves have been removed from Pokémon Sword and Shield
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That an archetype falls out of fashion is in NO WAY comparable to erasing entire mechanics from a game.
You have shown that you have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm not the only poster to point it out.
Have a good one. Bye
As said, that's just the Dynamax logo. What is weird though is that the Dynamax band clearly has some influence from the Z-bracelets.
Yeah, pretty much. Again, if the new mechanics seem better than older ones is because they are the hot new thing and the hot new thing tends to be good because of insane power creep, but not because they are inherently better. If Konami wants to make a good Ritual deck (Necroz) they WILL make a good ritual deck. It's all about the individual cards' power.
I remember there was a time when Necroz, a Ritual deck, was dominating the meta, and other top tier decks included things like Shaddoll, a Fusion deck, Yang Zing, a Synchro Deck, and Burning Abyss, a mainly Xyz deck (and every other summoning method it wanted, really). There were other decks released later like Monarchs, Kozmo, etc, that didn't use the Extra Deck that much at all, and Pendulums didn't really get good untill Qliphoth came out. All these decks were good because Arc-V featured every summoning method as a plot device, so Konami wanted to have good decks for all the summoning methods, so they just printed them.
Link Summoning was a different story. Link summoning does not stand alongside the other summoning methods as an equal, but as a middleman. It's not that it was a superior summoning method, it was that the other summoning mechanics were warped around Link summoning first, but Link summoning didn't need any other summoning mechanic. So now, entire decks were completely useless unless you used Links. And it's not like Konami printed 300 Link monsters in the first pack. Now we have a lot more options for Link summoning and we are used to them but at the time Link summoning was a stab in the back.
I swear to god some of you hate anything new. Z moves were meh but mega evos added a lot of depth to the battle and made some garbage pokemon usable in competitive.
If you hate new things keep playing pikelon red.
And yes I'm salty as fuck.
If you hate new things keep playing pikelon red.
And yes I'm salty as fuck.
Era: Ugh Gamefreak has been pushing the same game for years! Do something different already!
GF: we're removing this old thing and trying this new thing
Era: God GF has the worst decision making! Why can't they just keep giving me all of the same stuff all over again!
Era is gonna be the forum in another 20 years absolutely flabbergasted that a company can't squeeze in all 3000 4k model pokemon along with all 11 unique gimmick mechanics from 18 generations into a single cartridge
GF: we're removing this old thing and trying this new thing
Era: God GF has the worst decision making! Why can't they just keep giving me all of the same stuff all over again!
I highly doubt 20 years ago they were still expecting to be making these games.
Era is gonna be the forum in another 20 years absolutely flabbergasted that a company can't squeeze in all 3000 4k model pokemon along with all 11 unique gimmick mechanics from 18 generations into a single cartridge
I hated the concept of mega evolutions from day 1 so that would have been ok with me but it's absurd that game freak gets away with this kind of crap every single time
Never liked mega evolutions or Z-moves, honestly. Gimmicks that didn't really add much so I won't personally miss them but damn... Game Freak sure does love to get rid of features from previous games. For that reason, I feel bad for the fans who did love mega evolutions and Z-Moves.
Agree with many folks here: could care less about Z moves but liked the designs (if not the actual battle practicality) of mega evolutions and hope to see them back as new permanent evolutions or in the inevitable "Ultra Sword/Shield." I suspect they are gone for at least this gen though.
Also not surprised about UBs being out - they were all so weird and out of place - but it's a little odd considering how important they were in S/M and US/UM. Also I'd love for them to double down on regional variants - would make a ton of sense to have Galar versions of Kalos Pokémon - but I'm sure it's another idea GF is going to abandon this gen.
I've been playing a lot of Pokémon lately and on some level I get trimming the dex. There are so many garbage Pokémon, though GF is doing better each gen by having fewer new Pokémon. At some point the effort wasn't the pay off. It would be nice though if they clarified what was happening with older games, Home, and the new titles.
Also not surprised about UBs being out - they were all so weird and out of place - but it's a little odd considering how important they were in S/M and US/UM. Also I'd love for them to double down on regional variants - would make a ton of sense to have Galar versions of Kalos Pokémon - but I'm sure it's another idea GF is going to abandon this gen.
I've been playing a lot of Pokémon lately and on some level I get trimming the dex. There are so many garbage Pokémon, though GF is doing better each gen by having fewer new Pokémon. At some point the effort wasn't the pay off. It would be nice though if they clarified what was happening with older games, Home, and the new titles.
It amazes me how much people will allow a company to fuck them over because "Those new things weren't there when I was 12"
We're literally losing 400+ Pokemon, 2 Mechanics, and tons of content, and you still see people defending this here.
I'm just glad that's not the general sentiment in social media.
Also, to kind of justify the whole Link Summoning derail in here: this situation is similar to it. Game makers screw playerbase after so many years of supporting a specific playstile, playerbase gets inmensely upset, game maker goes through with it anyway but kinda starts backpedaling in some capacity. I think we should just keep the pressure up in here.
Shit like this makes the lore of the series feel inconsistent.
Like, I fully expected Mega Evolutions for at least every single starter Pokemon, after seeing Gen 1 and Gen 3 got them. I'm more than okay with not every Pokemon having a mega, but to stop at Gen 5 when we are now 8 generations deep is disappointing and nonsensical. It just feels like yet another thing the series ran with when it was new and then hastily discarded for the foreseeable future.
Same as following/riding Pokemon from LGPE. Probably everyone's absolute favorite feature from that game, and then... Nope. Not in the mainline sequel.
Is Mega Mewtwo or Lucario still a thing in Smash Ultimate? That's gonna feel pretty dated in the future, if not already.
Like, I fully expected Mega Evolutions for at least every single starter Pokemon, after seeing Gen 1 and Gen 3 got them. I'm more than okay with not every Pokemon having a mega, but to stop at Gen 5 when we are now 8 generations deep is disappointing and nonsensical. It just feels like yet another thing the series ran with when it was new and then hastily discarded for the foreseeable future.
Same as following/riding Pokemon from LGPE. Probably everyone's absolute favorite feature from that game, and then... Nope. Not in the mainline sequel.
Is Mega Mewtwo or Lucario still a thing in Smash Ultimate? That's gonna feel pretty dated in the future, if not already.
Seems to me that these guys are confused on what to do with the franchise. Why would you take out mega evolutions?
All they had to do was put in more regional pokemon tbh
I honestly feel like the past couple of gens something has been off, I don't feel to confident in Gamefreak anymore, which is crazy I used to be a big fan
All they had to do was put in more regional pokemon tbh
I honestly feel like the past couple of gens something has been off, I don't feel to confident in Gamefreak anymore, which is crazy I used to be a big fan
I mean yeah, I would be flabbergasted if those couldn't fit onto a cartridge in 20 years, yeah.
This is a dumb fucking post. We just fit over 800 high-polygon Pokémon on a 4GB 3DS cartridge three years ago. None of these cuts are because of insurmountable technological or storage issues.
It's a shame in some ways and not in others. Some of the Megas like Beedrill were legitimately cool and took a very weak Pokemon and made them strong which was great to see after years of being irrelevant. But it did feel like they were maybe a bit of a thorn as a balancing issue, with some of them being blatantly stronger than other Megas, and many other Pokemon.
Z-Moves I won't miss at all, but it seems like their idea is being incorporated with Max Moves, so I guess their essence still remains.
Z-Moves I won't miss at all, but it seems like their idea is being incorporated with Max Moves, so I guess their essence still remains.
Z-moves are completely disposable but some Megas made formerly useless Pokemon useful. Now Sableye, Beedrill, Manectric, Mawile etc will go back to being pointless. You'd think Game Freak would try and compensate by rebalancing those that really needed those Mega forms but the easiest solution is to just cut them out of this game.
Have they already confirmed the amount of Pokémon in the Galar-dex or are you just making up random numbers?
The most we've had for a Regional Pokedex is about 300+.
Im expecting 500+ this time, and I'm probably being generous, so about 400 Pokemon will get cut.
But that's just my prediction
I mean I think I'll take the word of the people actually working on the game over resetera poster WhiteRabbitEXE if that's alright with you. You're being facetious if you think I literally meant it was a spacing issue
Would you react the same if they removed Farfetch permanently?
don't really care. new gen is new pokemon for me. don't need to play with the same duck everytime.
These are new games. Masuda said there would be a large amount of Pokémon in these games.
We literally have no idea how many of them will make it into these games just because the most we've had so far was 300+.
Stop making up numbers as if they were facts.
It looks like gamefreak are following the bungie destiny 2 logic. Take stuff out the game and dont continue/ carry over past stuff.
Holy fuck man the poster clearly says I'M EXPECTING which is the complete opposite of a fact.
It's completely idiotic removing them. So many Pokémon got a second life because of them. They're visually varied and mechanically interesting. But hey, here's big Pokémon with the same 18 moves + Guard instead for three turns. Like fuck this.
Like why did they bring Megas to Let's Go and introduce them to a bunch of new Switch Players only to remove them? You gave the damn Champion of Galar a Charizard and you cut two of its high potential skills right there.
Like why did they bring Megas to Let's Go and introduce them to a bunch of new Switch Players only to remove them? You gave the damn Champion of Galar a Charizard and you cut two of its high potential skills right there.
I honestly don't care. I never disliked them but I'm on the camp in which I prefer that each generation introduces a new special mechanic. So it's fine to me that they don't come back if they introduce a new one, which is what they've been doing.
Where?
You didn't even read the post I quoted? Did you?
As I suspected, they have both been kinda incorporated into the dynamax phenomenon. Every move a pokemon in dynamic use is basically a z move only this time for 3 turns.
Sad for those who Love the mega designs, I have no love for them. Always felt half done to me when it's mostly popular pokemon that don't need it that have it.
Gigatomax will be the incorporation of megas if the leaks are true
Sad for those who Love the mega designs, I have no love for them. Always felt half done to me when it's mostly popular pokemon that don't need it that have it.
Did you even read the post you quoted?
Edit: I didn't. I was wrong, my apologies.
Maybe because they won't remove them entirely?
Maybe because they found a way to make them less centralizing?
Welp...shout out to the only gen 5 Mega, Mega Audino. I'll miss you.
Maybe we'll see Megas return in the DP remake...along with new ones.
Maybe we'll see Megas return in the DP remake...along with new ones.
I didn't like Z-moves or Megas and hardly used them in my casual online battles.
Still, flat out removing that stuff is kinda lame, especially Megas. I wanted them to flesh that out some more, introduce more of those for more gens and for the monsters that actually needed them instead of giving the popular monsters even stronger forms.
Why is it so hard for them to expand on any of that stuff? It feels like they introduce a new gimmick every gen that mostly involves gen1 and the new gen's monsters and just drop it completely the next gen. Just comes across as them being really desperate, trying to catch lightning in a bottle and dumping that shit immediately when it's not as popular as they want it to be.
Still, flat out removing that stuff is kinda lame, especially Megas. I wanted them to flesh that out some more, introduce more of those for more gens and for the monsters that actually needed them instead of giving the popular monsters even stronger forms.
Why is it so hard for them to expand on any of that stuff? It feels like they introduce a new gimmick every gen that mostly involves gen1 and the new gen's monsters and just drop it completely the next gen. Just comes across as them being really desperate, trying to catch lightning in a bottle and dumping that shit immediately when it's not as popular as they want it to be.
While I never was all that impressed with z moves and megas just removing them completely feels lame to me and it just goes to show that you should never like anything new gamefreak does because they literally never stick with it.
This giant Pokemon shit is the lamest thing ever but no worries it'll be removed next gen anyway.
This giant Pokemon shit is the lamest thing ever but no worries it'll be removed next gen anyway.
Regional evolutions will be in the game.
My finger is getting dangerously close to the "cancel order" button. And I locked in a pricing error on Shield, too. The more I hear, the worse it gets.
Galarian Farfetch'd has a knife.