LA to NY is one thing, any non-hub destination gets more expensive real quick.
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Do you hold a passport? Roughly 42% of Americans currently do.
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LA to NY is one thing, any non-hub destination gets more expensive real quick.
I do, haven't had a chance to use it, but will sooner rather then later. Also nice since it is real ID compliant so I won't need a federal ID to fly domestically.
Absolutely right. It's certainly more expensive in the middle of the country.
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Gasoline costs money too. So does the hidden cost of car maintenance.
I recently saw a $70 USD roundtrip ticket from USA-Iceland on Google Flights...
lower income persons in the US are also more likely to have jobs that give like a week or two of vacation a year, so between having not much money and a tiny amount of vacation time (plus having children for which they may need to save that vacation time if the kids are sick to take care of them), they're less likely to want to spend a lot of money on a plane ticket and use all their vacation on one trip, too.
it's not just a lack of desire, (though there's that too) they're basically trapped into not travelling abroad.
it's not just a lack of desire, (though there's that too) they're basically trapped into not travelling abroad.
I do, but I find that most people around who don't have the luxury to travel outside the US will not. Its just not a priority.
People in TX still make it out to other States. Time and distance aren't major prohibiting factors. Many of the people are close to international travel hubs too. 25% of the State lives in Houston, DFW, San Antonio and Austin, and probably a big % more within a few hours of those cities.The blue outline is the area of Texas laid over part of Western Europe:
I grant you that Texas is a big chunk of Europe size-wise. However, look at this another way: For the same time it takes to drive the longest length of Texas, in Europe you could drive through like six different countries, six different languages, six different cultures. (If you overlay that Texas shape over Southeastern Europe in the Balkans).
Europe's kind of unique in how compact yet diverse it is. Within a 1-4 hour plane flight on that continent, you have the choice of more than a dozen countries. They're lucky.
So you'd rather see the 2,000th best historic site in the US than see anything outside of the US. That's the kind of thing I was talking about earlier, about people in the US not wanting to experience other places.
This thread is somewhat scary.
I travel at least 4 times per year (mostly for work, but still).
I travel at least 4 times per year (mostly for work, but still).
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What I'm trying to say is that going to a different state in the USA is not comparable to going from one European country to another European country, when it comes to cultural differences.
The USA is still more similar to each other across its states than countries are to each other in Europe.
34 here and only just got a passport this past year as a group of friends wanted to try and plan a vacation so i needed to get one
There is a reason why I qualified it with "next 10 years". Its what I'd rather do first. Traveling abroad comes later.
I think we're in agreement? It's like some of us said, a lot of people just don't want to leave the US, even if they have the time and the money.
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If you say so.
I know people who have said the same thing, and then some excuse always comes up, and then it's too late due to mobility issues or whatever.
I get that the U.S. is vast and all, but this statistic is just baffling to me. I visit other countries at least 3 times a year.
It's been a long time since I even flew domestically. You need federal ID to get on a plane? The fuck?
I've seen that too. I'm more worried about being gunned down in a random shooting in the US than traveling in Europe.
As I understand it, beginning oct 2020 you will need either a federal ID or passport to even fly domestically, think this was a bush era policy.
Federally qualified state id.
Basically NYS, because it is fucking stupid, does not have a driver's license design that meets DHS requirements.
No, I can't afford to take a vacation within the US let alone anywhere else.
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Yeah this lol. Funny you said almost the exact same thing.
...or if they know they're not going to get an opportunity to go overseas anytime soon. As other people have mentioned ITT the combo of low income + a low amount of vacation days can easily kill any dreams of international travel. For people like that there's no point in spending $150 on a passport that they don't think they're going to use.
I'm just reading through this and I see many of you are surprised or even baffled that one wouldn't have a passport?
Understand that to someone like me who was poor as shit as a child and isn't a whole lot better off now, travel is a luxury. It's something I sure would like to do if I magically had who knows how much money to blow, but I don't. I have to focus more on necessities instead, which doesn't include travel to distant lands.
Understand that to someone like me who was poor as shit as a child and isn't a whole lot better off now, travel is a luxury. It's something I sure would like to do if I magically had who knows how much money to blow, but I don't. I have to focus more on necessities instead, which doesn't include travel to distant lands.
There are poor people everywhere though. Unless the US has a higher % of poor people compared to the UK, Europe, Australia, etc.?
Sorry I don't really get what you're saying. I'm saying that as a nearly poor person, I can't afford to travel. I imagine this is the same for a majority of poor people regardless of country. I was just irritated at some of the "surprise" and "bafflement" expressed in some of the prior posts that one wouldn't have a passport.
To me it's akin to being surprised that someone doesn't have a country club membership or a vacation home.
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Getting mine this year.
Thanks for the tip! Paris is almost $500 where I am located. Do you have a particular site for finding lodging?
Thanks for the tip! Paris is almost $500 where I am located. Do you have a particular site for finding lodging?
I do and I'm starting to feel the itch of the travel bug but I'm not sure where I want to go...
lol hollyshit. not in a million years I would have guessed that less than 50% of American have passport. this is shocking. I thought passport was like essential piece of identification that everyone has it. And being a first world country this is even more shocking. How do you people have no desire to travel? Go, see the world. You are living in a bubble.
I do.
It's actually not expensive at all to travel internationally relative to any air travel vacation within the US. That's an antiquated notion.