Damn while seeing Biden crater, having Pete so high is just as depressing. I hope Bernard can pull ahead so he can get the momentum and have Pete begin slowing. Also Pete is a dirtbag for boasting so early, man is he a snake.
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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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what definitely will kill the nebulous concept of "momentum": the iowa caucus being an even bigger news story than usual whose results get reported closer to the next contest than usual
He also won the Colorado caucus.
Then we decided not to do that anymore and went to a presidential primary but apparently caucuses for all the other races and I am confused because this sounds potentially stupid. Washington state PoliEra, was this a problem for you folks?
Kinda what I was feeling. It's not so close that we aren't getting a good ballpark estimate here.
No this is smothering the legit results in obfuscation and doubt, essentially ratfucking without actually ratfucking.
Ehhh. He qualified it a bit but come on
so is it just gonna stick at 62% until an unspecified point in the future or are there results going to keep updating?
I feel like I already know the answer lol
I feel like I already know the answer lol
pete did good in iowa because he went all in on iowa, and now after this debacle he's going to be plagued by all the "stuff that looks bad and conspiratorial but doesn't actually hold up under scrutiny" stuff because innuendo sells baby.
Probably gonna be like one of those downloads that looks stuck at 62% and then just zips to 100% all of a sudden.
Tempted to repost the picture of him eating, even if I already have once in this thread.
This is 40 minutes but it does a really great breakdown of Pete's terrible history:
We didn't used to, but the Sanders campaign demanded it after 2016, because previously they just reported State Delegate votes and it meant the Iowa Caucus winner only had like 3600 votes in their favor added to the raw value. I think Sanders believes doing well in caucuses is why there was a 4 million vote difference between him and Clinton, and that Caucuses should be better about reporting raw vote totals to head off that argument in the future.
I don't know if I'd go that far but he seems like he's constantly doing an impression of what he thinks people like in a politician. He comes across as extremely inauthentic to me.
Correct but in 2016 Bernie and supporters make a stink about a lot of things but mysteriously didn't mind the bullshit undemocratic caucuses. I find it hilarious that now he might win the popular vote but lose the delegates. Democrats should be unified in moving to a primary system
Just you. He seems well spoken and highly intelligent, two traits that are desperately needed in the White House right now.
I expect the final results to be not all that much different than these - Bernie with a small vote win, Pete with a small delegate win.
It doesn't really matter too much since Pete doesn't really have much support in upcoming contests, and neither side is winning by enough to get a huge boost from 'winning'. As long as Pete keeps pulling support away from Biden then I'll be happy.
Also he and Klob are "Midwest values" candidates so that gives them a mega boost in those states.
Pete being the flag bearer for the moderate wing of the party is vastly preferable to Biden. Hopefully Pete's support endures through the next few contests.
Under appreciated post.
Anyone who thinks they are the one person who should run the country probably is.
Warren is the snake, Pete is the rat I thought, get your animal insults right
I thought y'all a functioning democracy, ya know, the one y'all purport to export when destabilizing and ratfucking other nations with brown people?
What a shitshow. Between this shit and voter sabotaging by the republicans, good luck to y'all.
What a shitshow. Between this shit and voter sabotaging by the republicans, good luck to y'all.
well he's not wrong about that. He won caucuses but they didn't add to his vote counts.
Timeliness is an obvious virtue when it comes to news media and this shouldn't have to be further elaborated on. Giving it time for other narratives to be created in this vacuum, and by the time they're comfortable coming out with the real news no one will care. There's only one obvious motivation for why this might be the case.
It matters mainly for positive media coverage and momentum reasons. As far as the actual delegate count is concerned it's not important.
So what you are saying is that he makes for a good presidential candidate?
after 2016 I subscribe to the theres no such thing as bad publicity. Pete's name has been all over the news and its been tied to being declared the winner of Iowa, even if he himself made the declaration.
Lol seriously. Every actual candidate for president (grifters excluded) has to possess some degree of narcissism to think they can do it. You're running a country with 320 million people, arguably the most important in the world.
Doubtful. He needed Iowa to propel him and have a shot in NH. He currently has no chance in NV or SC. Will be able to hang around for a while, but not actually win states.
I'm curious what would've happened if Bernie, Warren and Amy could've all been campaigning in Iowa the last couple weeks instead of sitting through the trial in DC
Pete being completely rejected by the Black community makes me wonder the point of the people subtly caping for him, he doesn't have a path
Is it? You don't think Pete in the general would be a massive depressing factor for black voters?
100%. its overwhelming. he's been planning to be president his whole life
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