"Did somebody say USEFUL IDIOTS? Never fear, a 'One Nation' Tory is here!"
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BREXIT |OT3| I'd Rather Be Inert in a Ditch
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"Did somebody say USEFUL IDIOTS? Never fear, a 'One Nation' Tory is here!"
This is one of those situations where the vote is so tight, and the consequences so great, that it might actually be worth writing to your MP.
Whether they're a Tory, or a Corbyn loyalist, or a CUK, whatever they are. Swaying 1 MP could be worth it.
Whether they're a Tory, or a Corbyn loyalist, or a CUK, whatever they are. Swaying 1 MP could be worth it.
Watch as a terrible deal is made possible by idiots siding with xenophobes because they're stupid enough to believe EU is responsible for UK being such a neoliberal hell.
Eh they tried the same thing with May. Didn't work and she fucked them off. They are just doing the same old song and dance until BoJo fucks them off to, this all appeals to the leave constituents in the respective areas they are the mps for. Gotta keep up appearances, they won't vote for the deal.
I expect those lot to once more add votes on the day about rights etc to try and get them in, and fail once more. Then just not vote for the deal.
OMFG Sky News repeating that Junker said there would be no further extension
Launch these fuckers into the sun
Launch these fuckers into the sun
At least the BBC quickly moved to saying that's just Junker's words and to take them with a pinch of salt.
I hate their attempted rebranding as one nation Tories like it means anything. They still hate and punish the exact same groups whatever they call themselves."Did somebody say USEFUL IDIOTS? Never fear, a 'One Nation' Tory is here!"
Mhairi Black probably doesn't need my encouragement haha, but yes this a very good idea.
Will this translate to votes against on the day, though? I wonder if a few ERG types might abstain as a halfway house?
Not to alarm anyone but Ronnie Campbell just in radio 5 (he is a Labour leave MP)
He expects the deal to pass as he is having talks with those in leave areas saying as an election is coming you will lose if you vote down the deal, so removing the whip has no meaning, vote for the deal and can go into election with head held high
He expects the deal to pass as he is having talks with those in leave areas saying as an election is coming you will lose if you vote down the deal, so removing the whip has no meaning, vote for the deal and can go into election with head held high
They will end up being deselected by their local parties if they save Boris.
Well, this sucks for my friends across the pond. I had some small hope all this nonsense would no happen.
Cowards in our political system. Utter cowards. I sometimes wish we had the capacity to go full Hong Kong protest and shut the country down in response to the removal of our EU citizenship.
The ideology died completely when Thatcher came in. When your shining champion is Ted Fucking Heath, you know your ideology is a bit useless. The thing is that after Thatcher but before Cameron, they were just a tiny bit less evil. Still evil though. Now they're just deluded enablers of imperialist trash.
... And as an aside, I somehow doubt writing to Paul Maskey would help~ ;p
The problem with that is it's not the people Vs the authority. It's the people Vs the people. That would get bad very fast.
As usual, they only care about their job for a few more years. Scum.
You would think MPs know how it works by now, it's only law until the next law replaces it, at least be honest about it.
I heard that interview - tbf he's not going for re-election so his take might be a wee bit different.
Thanks! Although the chance of us getting a referendum is about the same of you guys going to Westminster.
It's amazing though, both the SNP and the SF would "prefer" the deal to go through, as it increases the chance of fulfiilling your long term goals, but neither of you can vote for it.
I think this summarizes perfectly what a conundrum Brexit is, specially for us uninitiated. For the inititated I guesd the most fitting word would be "shitshow" :P
Very true, the label means absolutely nothing. Especially now.
I thought it was a MINIMUM of 10 years from the date of leaving before they were even allowed to reapply?
Aye, I hope all the local parties start telling these idiots they'll be getting deselected if they back this shite.
Sadly I expect he'll find some new form of grift whatever happens
IF the deal gets voted through, I really do wish the UK the best. I hope the experts are completely wrong, and that they can flourish by themselves without hardship etc etc. I love too many people that live in the country still, and too much that comes from it.
But I will be quick to swear off my nationality, because the UK will no longer be something I recognize.
But I will be quick to swear off my nationality, because the UK will no longer be something I recognize.
This is wild. Dunno how Bercow would vote as IIRC Speakers are meant to vote for the status quo?
It's a sort of camouflage, hide yourself in the things you actually oppose.
I feel leftist organisations should try this as well. What about a bank that is actually a Marxist think-tank?
Would you rule out anything these days? I wouldn't. I thought racism was bad enough in UK, but Brexit has made it way worse.
Absolutely not.
He'll find an aspect of it that he doesn't like and start shouting about it not being a proper Brexit.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. He would make a ton from speaking tours with various right wing groups over there too.
I thought the speaker cannot create a majority where there is none, therefore he would vote Nay.
But others saying I have that backwards.
I guess the EU could change their laws to speed up the UK rejoining, but in that scenario they'd also have to be hurting pretty badly in a way that the UK rejoining would fix.
I don't see how that would line up, but perhaps. But I'd presume given the current laws or rules, that yeah, they won't want to encourage other countries to think they can get back in in quick order, to further discourage other members of the union leaving.
So I think it's very very very unlikely that a best case scenario puts the UK back into the EU in anything less than 10 years.
Us leaving because of a tie would be absolutely fitting for how surreal and stupid this whole process has been.
I think I'd struggle to not burst out laughing.
aaaaand that's when I check out on this
Too many people saying this is gonna be a close vote, I can't handle the anxiety. Wake me up when the it's all done and dusted.
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