I don't think it's the first time Biden has challenged someone to pushups when questioned on his age.
Going beyond that, I don't think it's Biden's age people are worried about so much as him showing signs of age-related cognitive decline.
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Biden aint having none of this dudes bullshit.
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Going beyond that, I don't think it's Biden's age people are worried about so much as him showing signs of age-related cognitive decline.
Worst part was the dude saying Biden has no backbone after 30 seconds of Biden being more confrontational than he has been in any debate wtf
That's not a super controversial comment? Many, many people don't want 77 year olds holding a job that should be extremely challenging. It's frankly terrifying that Ronald Reagan was president when you stop and think about the issues he was tackling.
Disclaimer: Not American.
He's only 4 years older than Trump? He's a year younger than Sanders and Warren is 70? All your big candidates for the presidency are old af. If you think his age is an issue then all their ages should be an issue?
Succumbing to trumpesque behavior and using trumpisms is ezactly what they want you to do, god damn it Joe. Stooping to their level is rarely a successful endeavor, and in this case its never going to work because Trump will just brainwash his voter base into thinking the Dems are just as bad as he is and that he deserves a fighting chance for a 2nd term. He was already unfit as the candidacy, and now I'm sure of it.
People have criticized all of those people on their age. People have constantly brought up how old Trump and Sanders are especially.
A big part of people calling for Beto early on, was that he wasn't super old.
The thing is Biden wasn't doing it in secret. It was official US And EU policy to push on firing the corrupt prosecutor. He also didn't require investigating any political opponents in the US as part of that deal.
There's enough of there to dunk on Biden's reduced mental capacities without needing to exaggerate his age by over a decade.
Oh, I agree that his age is an issue. I was just explaining the context behind the "You're too old to vote for me". It wasn't said like that out of the blue.
It's very childish to go "well I'm not even going to bother arguing with you" tbh. You see it all the time on this forum as well. Biden didn't handle that very well -- it's clear that he disagrees and believes the voter to be lying, but he should have argued for his version of the story, then, rather than be so dismissive. Just my thoughts.
Yea, you guys have a wee bit of a problem. Add to that that one of your candidates has already had a heart attack while running for nomination and the your sitting President has also reportedly had a heart attack while in office.
I thought Beto would have had more of a chance than he did, but obviously don't know US politics well enough.
At this stage the "age" argument should probably be put on the shelf if you have no other real alternatives than another old candidate.
Wasn't "I saw it on the TV" a response to "you're a damn liar"?
This really doesn't put Biden in a good light imho. Letting this one person get under his skin so much that he acts this way makes me worry he'll lose his cool in debates later.
He may have experience, but he definitely didn't show it here.
He may have experience, but he definitely didn't show it here.
And his supporters' reaction was to declare him stronger than ever.
It's a strange time.
It's honestly surprising that webVR is enabled by default, without prompt, or even without being a per-website option. Honestly very annoying, and I'm someone who actually uses webVR.
it is actually insane how this man can't form coherent sentences my god
the video can't even get subtitled properly no one knows what he's saying
the video can't even get subtitled properly no one knows what he's saying
I'd give ten years of my life to see Trump try to run a quarter-mile.
I have it on good authority that Trump is the most physically fit man to ever walk the face of this earth.
I'm somewhat reluctant to give Joe the benefit of the doubt that this approach is intentional. I think he's attempting to tap in to Trump's playbook.
He called him fat? I thought he said fact and trailed off his sentence because he gave up arguing with a guy spouting Fox News bits. I need to rewatch it.
Edit: oh lol I can see how it can be heard that way now. I don't think he actually said it because no one seemed to react to it that way.
Edit: oh lol I can see how it can be heard that way now. I don't think he actually said it because no one seemed to react to it that way.
Not a good look Joe. I'm sure the PR machine will say he wasn't fat or age shaming him but he was clearly firey hot to a guy who clearly wasn't as sharp as he was. A little bit of class and tact could have won himself a vote but I think the bigger issue is that he doesn't have a response to this question. Whenever it comes up he treats it, as some have done in this thread, as Republican talking points. There is a decent sized percentage of the Democratic base that actually is concerned about Hunter Biden's position on that board and hand waving those concerns isn't buying him any brownie points.
You are exactly the kind of poster who has complained about "republican talking points" and you go and post this. Disingenous.
If age is a concern then let it be a concern. If he's too old to be President then people can be too old to vote. It's a response that follows that logic perfectly.
I agree even though I know the Hunter Biden shit is a smear job at best and a conflict of interest at worst.
I'm glad he responded to bullshit false equivalencies aggressively. Comparing what Biden did to what Trump did is so fucking stupid that if you fall for it, you should look inward towards your critical thinking ability.
It's a pretty dumb response that only superficially follows the logic. Voting isn't a two way street. Joe Biden doesn't get a say in who can or can't vote for him. He can surely have an opinion that someone is too old to vote, but that opinion is functionally meaningless. Joe Biden isn't vetting the guy to vote. Meanwhile, the guy IS vetting Joe Biden's position as president.
it reveals a really poorly thought out train of logic. Something that might feel emotionally good as a swipe back, but is functionally a toothless reply.
Ah, I love how people on Era can see themselves as better than Trumpers but still fall into the "you've got your facts, I've got mine" mentality.
my take is when Trump repeats verbatim what this guy said on a debate stage, Joe's gonna call Trump fat and challenge him to a push up contest.
this is the most luminous and passionate I've seen Joe in a long time tho, I like it, and if he brought that to Trump... he would win.
this is the most luminous and passionate I've seen Joe in a long time tho, I like it, and if he brought that to Trump... he would win.
If you insist an arbitrary number is problematic when it comes to decision making then it applies to voters. There is no logical depth to be addressed if you refuse to ask yourself why you hold the belief you do. That's vetting at nothing but a superficial level and its a good thing to insist voters should apply a deeper logic.
If joe biden's goal was an ultimately meaningless gotcha, to point out that the guy wasn't entirely logically consistent, then mission accomplished.
But presumably his goal is to be elected president. And the guy wasn't saying "I disagree with your age philosophically," he was saying "I disagree with your age, and I am using that as a basis to not vote for you" which is precisely why Biden bristled. Because Biden wants to win an election.
Hence, the clap back was toothless. He's not getting what he ultimately wanted. He "won" a quick rush, but his comeback didn't make the guy go "damn, I guess I SHOULD vote for you." At best, he made the dude not vote for him, and also not vote for anybody else. Which was not the goal.
Holy shit did we watch the same video?
Biden got fired up over some shit which really is a baseless attack on his character. When he realized the dude was being confrontational to get a rise out of him, Biden walked away from the arguement. Clearly the "too old to vote for me" remark was said in jest which you can tell by his tone.
Was is presidential? No. But it wasn't anywhere near Trumpish behaviour. Trump doesnt confront bullshit, he just talks around it and postures later at his rallies.
Biden got fired up over some shit which really is a baseless attack on his character. When he realized the dude was being confrontational to get a rise out of him, Biden walked away from the arguement. Clearly the "too old to vote for me" remark was said in jest which you can tell by his tone.
Was is presidential? No. But it wasn't anywhere near Trumpish behaviour. Trump doesnt confront bullshit, he just talks around it and postures later at his rallies.
And your the kind of poster who thinks calling out nepotism from the then vice president is a republican talking point that i'm making? Is it because he is a democrat that you think Joe Biden is off limits from criticism?
So your saying its a terrible strategy that he's playing to intentionally be a jackass to "invoke" trump? Very very suspect, since he's always been one, that's kinda what he's known for and why Obama on a whim picked him. To get some of that white conservative democrat mojo
Biden has not been this abrasive before, especially in public. He has been quite happy to play the buddy cop to Obama angle up until this point, now he realizes he needs more. I'm not saying it's a good thing. It's a strategy that will see him lose easily.