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2019 US Open -|- August 26th - September 8th -|- Grand Slam Tennis Comes To Queens
- Thread starter EvilChameleon
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Nadal is really mentally strong.
You have to beat him down to win it. And its really hard to do.
Yep. Rafa clearly isn't playing too well today but He's turned it up at clutch moments. Crazy mental strength
That's because he doesn't have the weapons to hurt Nadal. He doesn't have a big forehand or backhand.
His game suits Nadal and it's a bad match up for him. Other players he'd get away with it.
He probably will break down but it will take 4 hours and 5 sets of grinding to do it. Not many guys can force that.
I wish Mevedev was playing a little smarter but that's not easy to do in your first GS finals. Especially when this is probably like then 25th final appearance for Rafa.
Medvedev doesn't quite have the power to consistently hit through Nadal nor can he grind him down as easily as he would with other players yeah. That being said, the margin between today subpar Nadal and spraying Medvedev is fairly small.
I think it's mostly down to game management of the key moments between the two, Nadal is clearly superior in that department. Medvedev looks so green out there.
The two marks of a man who has no idea how to win against his opponent, too many drop shots and too much serve and volley.
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Does that Fed still exist?
He seems to have dropped a few levels.
And Fed didn't make it here. Nadal did.
I'd trust him to do better than Medvedev, and I mean no, he didn't. But that wasn't my point. I'm talking about the caliber of play needed to challenge what Nadal is doing today.
He beat him rather handily at the semis of Wimbledon this year, so there's certainly a decent possibility he'd be able to do so again (at the very least, taking a set or two off is definitely plausible).
That is until an unexpected Rolex truck shatters his knee.
(I'm on my way to New York Roger)
I actually believe that nowadays Fed would crush Nadal (and by crush I mean winning in 4 or 5 tight sets despite being the superior player) on hard or grass, if they both play average or both at their current best. Talking about "post retirement" era though, so after 2017.
Probably. He's virtually unbeatable at the French Open, and I like his chances at the Australian Open and the US Open if Djoker loses somehow.
Don't know why people keep mentioning Federer. He would have lost to Medvedev and lost to Dimitrov who has been bang average all year.
And Nadals been in plenty of good finals. It's not his fault Fed or Djokovic couldn't make it.
Feds been non existent at the US open for years.
I'm gonna try this a different way.
Yes, Medvedev secured his place in the finals of the US Open. He deserves to be here. Federer lost to Dimitrov in the quarterfinals, Djokovic retired.
However, Medvedev does not yet possess the weapons to make for a serious challenge to Rafa Nadal. As a tennis fan, that continues to bother me because I've been watching these guys play since 2004-2007.
It is not natural that I should want a 37 year old man to once again have to fill this role again and again, but Medvedev just isn't there.
As someone else said, a 2000s born woman just won before a 90s born man.
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It's his first final. He either can better or he'd fall by the way side, which we'd see.
I'd try this another way. Djokovic and Murray were both whipping boys for Federer and Nadal in the early years in slams. Djokovic then eventually started getting the edge.
Beating someone like Nadal doesn't happen overnight because he's probably one of the most awkward players to play because there's nobody that quite replicates his game on tour. It took Federer 14 years to finally figure it out. It took Djokovic a good few years. Medvedev if he wants to be a contender has to put himself in a position to play him more.
The US open courts suit Nadal more than Federer regardless as they are a lot slower than other hard courts. Nadal in the last three years would have played Fed in the semis or finals if Fed didn't get knocked out early.
Also you are discrediting Nadal. If he wins this he's beaten the most consistent hard court player of the summer. Just like he beat the second best clay court player in Thiem. I guess that was also Nadals fault. You play what's in front of you. If Rafa wasn't around, Thiem probably would have two slams.
I think Medvedev definitely has the right foundations in his game to compete with older GOATs as he progresses and as they decline.
Don't think this was an easy final by any means for Nadal despite the score but yeah the gap is that big between the rest of the tour and the Big 3.
Don't think this was an easy final by any means for Nadal despite the score but yeah the gap is that big between the rest of the tour and the Big 3.