It does look offside from this angle, but can't say for sure without the line.
It does look offside from this angle, but can't say for sure without the line.
He said this at +10 IIRC and there was more wasted time (from Bayern's bench and players complaints) afterwards
Utter robbery. This is exactly why we have VAR so linesmen don't have to raise the flag and can let it play out. Insanity to raise it at that time and in that situation. Insanity.
Robbery is an extreme interpretation. It only stopped a promising play, as any wrong foul call does 5-10 times a game
I thought there were multiple occasions where Real Madrid players should've been booked for tactical fouls stopping counterattacks. Not doing so meant several promising opportunities were snuffed out for free.
FWIW, I have no reason to care who won this game and think Real Madrid were worthy winners, it's just poor officiating like that is a detriment to my enjoyment.
The lineman raised the flag immediately at that one too, the referee just didn't get a chance to blow the whistle until it was already over.
I'm talking about the fact that the linesmen are supposed to wait when they're not 100% sure.
I thought the refereeing was fine beyond Bayern's goal. It's hard to tell without the technology being applied, but what are you doing raising the flag so early my dude. I think Madrid's goal was similar too, only the whistle wasn't blown before the goal.
It flattened the insane high I was on after the two goals, especially because I'm confident that we'd still have won. Feels bad.
Super proud of Joselu anyways, stand up guy.
It flattened the insane high I was on after the two goals, especially because I'm confident that we'd still have won. Feels bad.
Super proud of Joselu anyways, stand up guy.
I stand corrected, it was at the 10:30 minute mark of added time is still a lot for a game with no major injuries but whatever. That's the modern game, I guess. Gotta pump up the drama.
Just checked the replay and this is not accurate. The linesman raises the flag after the goal.
I mean, the ball's in the back of the net a few seconds after the linesman raises his flag. Would it have done had the play continued without any interference from the linesman/ref? Impossible to know. But it was a very promising position and the sort of position for which the rule that linesmen don't raise their flag was created. Let it play out and see what happens.
That's exactly what VAR is for. There is literally no reason for them not to look at critical situations in games like this when all is on the line. If it's checked and still false we can talk about human error for all i care but there is absolutely no reason for VAR not looking at situations likes this.
Plenty of other sports are able to use VAR without turning it into a clown show like it is in football.
? The game was stopped. There was no goal to look at. You would have wanted them to check if the offside was false to give the ball back to Bayern as a dead ball or something?
It's not exactly rocket science. Let the play work out. If Bayern scores make a VAR check, if not let the game run.
But that's the current VAR implementation? That's why I don't understand your earlier point about this situation illustrating an issue with VAR, when the linesman didn't follow actual VAR guidelines. You can't do much better without replacing linesmen with software entirely.
That's exactly my point. We have the technology. Why do we still rely on some middle aged man that has run for the past 80 minutes having the eye to make a split second decision about whether or not someone 30 meters away is 5 cm offside or not.
Don't really care about this game tonight but it's a prime example of the same struggle that happens in all the league and uefa competitions.
clear offside, rudiger's hand doesnt count unless they changed the rules
Offside was seemingly called on Mazraoui. I don't think there's anything clear about whether he's offside or not on this still.
Yes, especially when the period of play is in a threatening position. However they will call offside if it's so clearly offside + not threatening
I have no dog in this fight but Bayern fans have a right to be upset. Absolutely shocking officiating
It's Mazraoui who matters not de Ligt and that one you can't call looking at the picture. It's a dumb and unnecessary error.
Generally speaking I'm good with this result. If we lose to Madrid it's just as everyone expected and if we somehow break their streak of winning finals then it's a huge upset.
You're looking at the wrong player. Mazraouie was the one who engaged in the situation and was called offside. De Ligt is in front of Rüdiger and Mazraouie here and WOULD be in offside position if the ball went anywhere close to him, but it didn't. De Ligt's position on this picture is not a factor here at all for the decision. Only Rüdiger vs. Mazraouie counts here.
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first of all, that play shouldnt have happened because the ref said that it was adding two minutes like in the 100' and this happened way after those two minutes, second of all it is offside, and thirdly even if it wasnt rudiger or lunin wouldnt have stopped it easily.
i agree with you guys that the ref fucked up by blowing the whistle as it should have let the play continue and then use var in the unlikely scenario that bayern managed to score.
Vini was relentless, bummer he didn't get his goal but damn what a performance that was. At certain moments he just dribbled past 2-3 players to create danger. One man army carrying the attack.
Been saying it for some time now: Vini > Mbappe. We really don't need the latter.
It's not at all obvious it's offside even from a still picture, much less in real time. Mazraoui's knee vs Rudiger's right foot is a very close call.
Hoping for a good dramatic game, though slightly leaning Dortmund's way just for the 'smaller' clubs can win it narrative.