Zoomers don't appreciate older games.

henhowc · Feb 17, 2020

They don't have any of the strong feelings of nostalgia we older folk have.

Janky controls and inconveniences shouldn't really invoke feelings of positivity lol Not to mention early 3D consoles have aged the worst in terms of visuals. It would be like them going from the high speed internet we take for granted today back to dial-up. That stupid modem noise gives me warm fuzzy feelings whenever I hear it but to zoomers it'd probably just be like nails on a chalkboard.

Jessie · Feb 17, 2020

Irrotational said:
anyone fancy doing a quick summary of ages and widths of "generations"? I've never really understood it.

I always though boomers were people born post WW2 as populations re-bounded...so I'm like 20 years too young to be a boomer...but then I'm thankfully far too old to be a millenial.

Silent Generation - nursing home patients
Boomers - angry grandparents on Facebook
Gen X - miserable 50 year olds who will never be able to retire
Millennials - have too much student loan debt to buy a home
Gen Z - Billie Eilish and Lil Nas X
Gen Alpha - people who play Roblox

Zippo · Feb 17, 2020

Ok moomer

Swift_Gamer · Feb 17, 2020

Jessie said:
Silent Generation - nursing home patients
Boomers - angry grandparents on Facebook
Gen X - miserable 50 year olds who will never be able to retire
Millennials - have too much student loan debt to buy a home
Gen Z - Billie Eilish and Lil Nas X
Gen Alpha - people who play Roblox

Lmao, I use Billie Eilish to judge people.

Swift_Gamer · Feb 17, 2020

dabri said:
So op comes in and starts a thread based off a wild, uneducated, opinionated, stereotypical, incorrect ideas about millennials before abandoning the thread and leaving it for millennials to come in and fix the problem.
Yes this feels right.

So, like boomers irl, right?

Jessie · Feb 17, 2020

Swift_Gamer said:
Lmao, I use Billie Eilish to judge people.

I think Billie Eilish has the individuality and talent that millennials always wanted but could never achieve due to following cookie cutter trends like emo and hipster

Schlorgan · Feb 17, 2020

dabri said:
So op comes in and starts a thread based off a wild, uneducated, opinionated, stereotypical, incorrect ideas about millennials before abandoning the thread and leaving it for millennials to come in and fix the problem.
Yes this feels right.

hipsterbodega · Feb 17, 2020

As someone who grew up playing these games and now collects them...

...I don't care. If you're 20 this year, a fully formed adult human, the Atari 2600 predates you by more than your entire lifespan. It's clumsy, doesn't connect easily to modern TVs, hosts watered down arcade ports also more than twice your age and plays with an obstinate joystick and a single button. I love the 2600 but if you can't see why a 20 year old wouldn't, I don't know what to tell you. Living in a rose tinted bubble.

Bish_Bosch · Feb 17, 2020

Jessie said:
I think Billie Eilish has the individuality and talent that millennials always wanted but could never achieve due to following cookie cutter trends like emo and hipster

What? I think she's a perfectly talented vocalist but her sound draws a lot from artists like Zola Jesus plus hipster isnt really a music trend.

Maximo · Feb 17, 2020

Jessie said:
I think Billie Eilish has the individuality and talent that millennials always wanted but could never achieve due to following cookie cutter trends like emo and hipster

Jesus why does this hurt me.

Anoxida · Feb 17, 2020

Lobster Roll said:
Let younger folks enjoy games however the hell they want. I saw this same trend on Reddit like five years ago when people were forcing their kids to play the games they grew up with before they were "allowed" play the newest, fun titles. Stop gatekeeping and accept that the new generation is going to carve its place in this world without our input. Trying to gatekeep their path is extremely lame. The fact that you mentioned PS1, PS2, and PS3 leads me to believe you're probably in your 20s which makes you a youngster yourself. Hell, I'm in my 30s, grew up with an NES as my first console, and I still have people telling me that I'm young. And yet plenty of people on Era grew up with consoles older than that. Point is ... just let the current youngest generation do it's thing. Let them play what they want and drive their own trends just as everybody before them did.

On a side note, I'm actually extremely curious to see what Zoomers think about FF7R when it releases. I think it will be very good to get the opinions of people who didn't experience the original as kids and will judge that game as a stand-alone project and not a 2020 version of something they hold near & dear to their hearts. In a weird twist, I think their opinions will be far more valid than those clouded by nostalgia and an unwillingness to let the past go.

The gameplay side of FFR7 is made with them in mind, I'm sure they'll love it almost as much as we did the original back in the day (Im guess slightly less because theyre might be less fond of longer games maybe?).

Bish_Bosch · Feb 17, 2020

I mean I was an outlier but outside of music how much older media does anyone really consume in their teens? It's not like my peers in highschoolbwere binging new wave films and film ages way better than say a ps1 game.

capitalCORN · Feb 17, 2020

Bish_Bosch said:
What? I think she's a perfectly talented vocalist but her sound draws a lot from artists like Zola Jesus plus hipster isnt really a music trend.

Silly you. Recursive progress does not exist.

Iztok · Feb 17, 2020

henhowc said:
They don't have any of the strong feelings of nostalgia we older folk have.

Janky controls and inconveniences shouldn't really invoke feelings of positivity lol Not to mention early 3D consoles have aged the worst in terms of visuals. It would be like them going from the high speed internet we take for granted today back to dial-up. That stupid modem noise gives me warm fuzzy feelings whenever I hear it but to zoomers it'd probably just be like nails on a chalkboard.

I hear that a lot, but I really enjoy the look of early 3D. I know it's just nostalgia - but boy do I get a strong kick out of it!
Just got into 3DO games and they remind me so much of early Windows 95 3d stuff, I love it.

The only real problem those games had was framerate, and that's a big one, I admit.

henhowc · Feb 17, 2020

Lobster Roll said:
On a side note, I'm actually extremely curious to see what Zoomers think about FF7R when it releases. I think it will be very good to get the opinions of people who didn't experience the original as kids and will judge that game as a stand-alone project and not a 2020 version of something they hold near & dear to their hearts. In a weird twist, I think their opinions will be far more valid than those clouded by nostalgia and an unwillingness to let the past go.

I wanna see these youths play FF7R and then get interested and see their reactions to playing the original. haha

werezompire · Feb 17, 2020

I feel old anytime somebody refers to PS1 games as retro/older games. I say this as a millennial whose first console was an Atari 5200.

Lobster Roll · Feb 17, 2020

henhowc said:
I wanna see these youths play FF7R and then get interested and see their reactions to playing the original. haha

lol that would be something else for sure. I'm just curious how much they even care about in the first place. I wonder if the game even crosses their radar.

Jonathan Lanza · Feb 17, 2020

Lobster Roll said:
Let younger folks enjoy games however the hell they want. I saw this same trend on Reddit like five years ago when people were forcing their kids to play the games they grew up with before they were "allowed" play the newest, fun titles. Stop gatekeeping and accept that the new generation is going to carve its place in this world without our input. Trying to gatekeep their path is extremely lame. The fact that you mentioned PS1, PS2, and PS3 leads me to believe you're probably in your 20s which makes you a youngster yourself. Hell, I'm in my 30s, grew up with an NES as my first console, and I still have people telling me that I'm young. And yet plenty of people on Era grew up with consoles older than that. Point is ... just let the current youngest generation do it's thing. Let them play what they want and drive their own trends just as everybody before them did.

On a side note, I'm actually extremely curious to see what Zoomers think about FF7R when it releases. I think it will be very good to get the opinions of people who didn't experience the original as kids and will judge that game as a stand-alone project and not a 2020 version of something they hold near & dear to their hearts. In a weird twist, I think their opinions will be far more valid than those clouded by nostalgia and an unwillingness to let the past go.

Zoomers don't play Final Fantasy period. It's a Boomer franchise at this point.

And I use the term boomer to refer to anything from before the Xbox One because it's much funnier that way.

King Alamat · Feb 17, 2020

Jessie said:
I think Billie Eilish has the individuality and talent that millennials always wanted but could never achieve due to following cookie cutter trends like emo and hipster

Words hurt, you know.

Bear and bird · Feb 17, 2020

henhowc said:
They don't have any of the strong feelings of nostalgia we older folk have.

Janky controls and inconveniences shouldn't really invoke feelings of positivity lol Not to mention early 3D consoles have aged the worst in terms of visuals. It would be like them going from the high speed internet we take for granted today back to dial-up. That stupid modem noise gives me warm fuzzy feelings whenever I hear it but to zoomers it'd probably just be like nails on a chalkboard.

Even nostalgia was better in the old days.

Nostalgia is tied to your childhood. I think the gamer babies of the 2000s will have plenty of memories to cling on to when they reach our ages.

Ruruja · Feb 17, 2020

I was born towards the end of the 8-bit era and I don't really care for games released around that time or before. I think it's the same for most people and generations.

Irrotational · Feb 17, 2020

Jessie said:
Silent Generation - nursing home patients
Boomers - angry grandparents on Facebook
Gen X - miserable 50 year olds who will never be able to retire
Millennials - have too much student loan debt to buy a home
Gen Z - Billie Eilish and Lil Nas X
Gen Alpha - people who play Roblox

Ok thanks - this is exactly what I'm after - although I don't know who the Gen Z people are...I can google them I guess :-)

I'm 43 but feel much more aligned to Gen X....I think we were the original people that advertisers didnt know how to reach and so got the monniker "Gen X"?

Not long to go until I can genuinely just be angry all the time and then slip into a coma in a comfy chair in a nursing home...bliss!

dskzero · Feb 17, 2020

Jonathan Lanza said:
Zoomers don't play Final Fantasy period. It's a Boomer franchise at this point.

And I use the term boomer to refer to anything from before the Xbox One because it's much funnier that way.

I was about to yell at you so, so much.

Treasure Silvergun · Feb 17, 2020

Are we talking about the games here or what?

'Cause I don't like to go back to the struggles of old hardware either, but the games can still be fantastic.

eso76 · Feb 17, 2020

Give them a good arcade stick, challenge them at Track 'n Field and you won't believe their reaction !

But really, a lot of old games hold up perfectly well. Arcades especially

dennett316 · Feb 17, 2020

So? Most movie goers don't appreciate old silent movies, most TV viewers don't appreciate old variety shows featuring performers they'll never have heard of...who gives a shit? I'm an old fart, I loved my Commodore 64, I don't expect kids nowadays to give a shit about the old janky games I liked beyond being amused that it took 5 minutes to load the damn things.
Knowing or respecting the history of shit is not required to enjoy the current version of it, and doesn't make anyone less of a gamer/movie buff/tv viewer for not caring about it.

Deleted member 48434 · Feb 17, 2020

As a filthy half-zoomer, half-millennial hybrid, I'll have you know I've played plenty of old games.

...I don't have a lot of patience for most NES games though.
I do love SMB3.

Gunny T Highway · Feb 17, 2020

Way to assume all younger gamers do not appreciate older games. Personally I am a millenial (I am 32) who's first console was the NES and first game was Super Mario Bros.

Combichristoffersen · Feb 17, 2020

Back in my day we didn't even have memory cards or savegames or passwords. We had to finish games in one sitting. You young whippersnappers and your newfangled cloud saves and fancy shit.

/s

Deleted member 23046 · Feb 17, 2020

Because of the SD>HD transition, I have better memories of the PS2/Gamecube era than the PS360.

"Old games" doesn't mean that much : "Bubble Bobble" is still fun to play when "Sword of Sodan" isn't.

Soap · Feb 17, 2020

On the flip side, memory cards do suck but imagine being a kid growing up with all this dlc and freemium crap. Way worse.

HazySaiyan · Feb 17, 2020

Irrotational said:
Ok thanks - this is exactly what I'm after - although I don't know who the Gen Z people are...I can google them I guess :-)

I'm 43 but feel much more aligned to Gen X....I think we were the original people that advertisers didnt know how to reach and so got the monniker "Gen X"?

Not long to go until I can genuinely just be angry all the time and then slip into a coma in a comfy chair in a nursing home...bliss!

You are Gen X by the commonly used definition. It's usually people born between around 1965 and around 1980

CesareNorrez · Feb 17, 2020

From the replies in this thread you can see a lot of people over many generations not enjoying early videogames. Which is a shame because art isn't something that should be enjoyed only in its contemporary form. The original Super Mario Bros on NES is still fun to play. It may not control like a modern 2D platformer, but it's like adjusting to any other game. Take the game for what it is and enjoy it on those terms. Especially in this age were save states are officially supported on so many vintage games. This goes for pretty much all art too. With is just a little extra time put in to understand the context of a piece (a quick google search) and you can appreciate all eras. No need to be so dismissive of older games.

Dogui · Feb 17, 2020

Most young people nowadays don't play games about pressing buttons. It's all about touchscreen and stuff like Mario is pretty hard for them.

Kids playing traditional consoles today are like the ones listening to Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin in the 90s, they need a parent/uncle/relative pushing it and being an influence.

Thera · Feb 17, 2020

I am a Millenial and I am all for the old days of the 2D glories.
But the beggining of the 3D era, yeah, baring some exceptions, it is awful (both visually, frame rate and controls).

Deleted member 29682 · Feb 17, 2020

Dogui said:
Kids playing traditional consoles today are like the ones listening to Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin in the 90s, they need a parent/uncle/relative pushing it and being an influence.

You mean the ones who post in youtube comment sections about how they hate their own generation and wish they were born when music was "real"?

Jonathan Lanza · Feb 17, 2020

dskzero said:
I was about to yell at you so, so much.

The internet is a lot easier when you just think of it like this.

Boomer - Old things
Zoomer - New things.

Millennial is a stupid name because it can't be oomered.

Titanpaul · Feb 17, 2020

Title aside, I grew up playing Atari and moved on from there when my family had the money. Games have varied in playability since the SNES / Genesis. 99% of titles from the NES and before are unplayable now and were borderline unplayable then. We just dealt with the limitations and flaws.

PS1 / N64 games have also not aged very gracefully, but there are a few gems in there.

I'm not saying the old games you like are bad, but I'm saying games are consistently better now than they've ever been.

Kingpin Rogers · Feb 17, 2020

I'm going to be 23 this year am I a millennial or a zoomer?

I play a lot of older games and tbh for me everything from SNES and onwards for me is still a lot of fun. NES is a little less so, like I'd much rather play Super Metroid than Metroid. Certain games like the original Castlevania are still awesome though.

In terms of PS1 and N64, maybe it's just because I had two older brothers but those consoles were around a lot when I was growing up and I think a lot of the games have aged fine. I'm very happy to play PS1 or N64 games as I think a lot of them are still great.

Maedhros · Feb 17, 2020

I don't mind.

i'll keep enjoying things others don't care. There so much gold to be found in old videogames.

Dogui · Feb 17, 2020

Brian Damage said:
You mean the ones who post in youtube comment sections about how they hate their generation and wish they were born when music was "real"?

Yeah, kinda like that haha

Tho i don't think it work as well with videogames because music in general has a lot more prestige and are more "cool" less "nerdy".

Triggerhappytel · Feb 17, 2020

Fat4all said:
i can't believe millennials MURDERED older games

"Older games didn't just die... they were murdered"

BRB I'm going to make a YouTube video.

Launchpad said:
Millenial has just become the word for "generation I don't like" at this point. Even other millenials are using it.

Yeah, basically this.

PlunderBunker said:
Okk, so I meant Zoomers or whatever. I thought Millennials is 2000 onwards. We all make mistakes.

But even so, the point of your topic feels confused. You're basically saying why don't people who grew up after thing like thing as much as those who grew up playing thing? And your point is even further diluted by including the PS3 in your generalisation.

Clive · Feb 17, 2020

Good for them. Modern game design is leagues ahead of old in most genres. Be happy that they are playing a Ratchet & Clank game where you can strafe and is in full control rather than having to out-jank bosses on the PS2. Better graphics, tighter controls, better camera, generally better writing etc. Modern games are more fun to play. Retro music still kicks ass though.

Kyora90 · Feb 17, 2020

What's wrong with saying younger people, is it too hard?

PeskyToaster · Feb 17, 2020

I don't really like older games, I never go back to them. Even the ones I grew up with. I guess the only thing is World of Warcraft Classic but that's also kind of a current game.

Potterson · Feb 17, 2020

I'm 32 and I don't give a f**k about pre-PS2 games, really. I don't have any nostalgia for them, I don't feel like I need to play some archaic titles. Some turn-based stuff may be an exception.

LumberPanda · Feb 17, 2020

When was the last time you decided to like music from the late 19th century?

Millennials theses days.

Fat4all · Feb 17, 2020

Kyora90 said:
What's wrong with saying younger people, is it too hard?

you are too young to understand

i need a group to HATE

RedMercury · Feb 17, 2020

I'm a millenial and I'm not going out of my way to play Atari or Vectrex or C64 anything even though I grew up around those consoles. It's not that I don't appreciate them, they just aren't my cup of tea. I would assume any generation that comes after would be the same, like for my kids they don't play NES stuff very often when they could play Minecraft or Fortnite.

TheDutchSlayer · Feb 17, 2020

NotLiquid said:
Millennials grew up with the PS1.

Unless you're referring to Gen Z.

Not true I'm a full mil and I started with an nes.

Zoomers don't appreciate older games.

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