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Yuzu (Switch emulator) running Mario 3D World+Bowser's Fury at 60fps day 1
- Thread starter Napalm_Frank
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They also said just recently on twitter that apparently resolution scaling (THE major feature Yuzu is currently missing) is supposed to be just around the corner.
At no point anyone claimed that the emulation was flawless.
And the misleading part in the title would be?
At no point anyone claimed that the emulation was flawless.
CEMU was basically flawless on it already years ago.
But Yuzu has a lot of catching up to do to match CEMU in terms of polish, relative performances and extra features.
4790k from my understanding is still among the CPUs with the highest single core performance, which is the kind of performance emulators need to run fast.
I bought mine in 2015 because it was the best for emulators like Dolphin at the time, and even today I simply can't justify upgrading my 6-year-old PC because it's just too good... I really should try some Switch emulation on it one day, if it really does run that well.
Maybe I don't understand fps terminology well enough. But uh when 10+ frames in a row are just straight up missing that doesn't seem like "running 3D World + Bowser's Fury at 60fps" to me?? I guess it might just be semantics but it feels disingenuous.
An emulator running a game this well at release without time to optimize or make speedhacks for it is impressive regardless of the console's performance.
Yeah, if a game came out and devs said 60 fps but when it came out and had massive frame drops and slowdown people would be calling it out as misleading.
Great stuff, can't wait until yuzu gets resolution scaling or the other emulator is more stable so we can free these beautiful games from the shackles of switch hardware and 720p
Also the game launched early in many places so ya know fuck off with the emulator hate
Also the game launched early in many places so ya know fuck off with the emulator hate
Still very playable tbh.
Impressive, we're not that far from Switch's launch to be having this good of an emulator.
The temptation to hack my Switch to dump my entire cartridge library to play with this rises.
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I'd imagine the devs certainly will see BOTW2 as some sort of goalpost to hit. CEMU got a spurt back when BOTW released.
Those are most likely spots where the emulator is caching shaders. Once cached, it shouldn't freeze again when you replay the same area.
That's been happening for generations and i've never seen anyone call it misleading
people just say the game has framerate drops and maybe start asking for patches or ports to stronger consoles or PC's
I'm specifically getting flashbacks to Ninja Gaiden 2 vanilla here, that could drop from 60 straight to the low teens or single digits
I'm not trying to argue that it's not playable. It is quite clearly in more than a playable state. It's why I said "misleading title" as opposed to "THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE."
None of the emulators can play through the entirety of Age of Calamity without major freezes despite how stable the game was running on day 1. Let them focus on that first.
Yeah with drops during certain sections but mostly a locked 60. The issue for some is that it's dynamic 792p (mostly 720p) even when docked.
Hopefully the Switch Pro is out by the end of the year for those that care about good image quality because even if it doesn't use DLSS it should still be enough of an upgrade to hit 1080p in most games when docked.
The game leaked on some retailers not too long ago. It's pretty shut to immediately jump to "they're pirates!" as if it's not unlikely someone on the team got an early copy.
Era emulator threads always have these bitter posts. Shit's wild.
Nice to see this project improving.
Nice to see this project improving.
I get your point. Also, as many pointed out already, Yuzu is probably caching shaders at those points. Same thing happens with Cemu and Citra.
You can pre-download shaders packs under normal circumstences when you want to avoid that but the game is obviously too new for that to happen.
It's not misleading if you're familiar with the terminology
The term for a stable framerate with no drops or issues is usually "locked"
the title would be
Yuzu (Switch emulator) running Mario 3D World+Bowser's Fury at locked 60fps day 1
"locked" wasn't used so anybody who's aware of its usage would not be surprised to see some drops
These asterisks are also mostly redundant.
It's running on a very dated CPU here, and in OGL mode rather than in Vulkan with async shader compilation (which is typically the best performing back end).
Chances are it can already perform a lot better than what's being showed here in more ideal conditions.
That could just be the emulator caching shaders. Dolphin, Cemu, Yuzu, Ryujinx, and RPCS3 have to cache shaders whenever a new one comes up, which can result in momentary stutters or frame drops depending on the game and the settings people are using. The emulators tend to have toggles to alleviate this, but it can lead to texture and model pop-in until everything is cached.
Or it could just be frame drops. I'd be more inclined to think the former, though.
Yes, a hacked Switch is necessary to legally use the emulator, including to dump your games (though note that you can also dump eShop games).
The game has been playable on Ryujinx since the very second it was leaked.
It's worth mentioning that Ryujinx was playing the game at 60FPS and 4K before the game was even out.
While a lot of people that are not part of the emulation scene won't understand what shader caching is. It's perfectly normal for games to have "lag" every time a new effect is rendered as that is caching the shader that has been translated by the emulator.
Ryu is making big progress versus Yuzu and has quite a few advantages such as Resolution Scaling, Multiplayer with a real Switch as well as more Game Compabilitiy.
I know emulation is looked down on ERA, but as someone that is super passionate about playing his legally dumped games with a way higher resolution and 60FPS as well as Texture Packs, Filters, Modifications it's incredible to see the progress happen in real time.
It's worth mentioning that Ryujinx was playing the game at 60FPS and 4K before the game was even out.
While a lot of people that are not part of the emulation scene won't understand what shader caching is. It's perfectly normal for games to have "lag" every time a new effect is rendered as that is caching the shader that has been translated by the emulator.
Ryu is making big progress versus Yuzu and has quite a few advantages such as Resolution Scaling, Multiplayer with a real Switch as well as more Game Compabilitiy.
I know emulation is looked down on ERA, but as someone that is super passionate about playing his legally dumped games with a way higher resolution and 60FPS as well as Texture Packs, Filters, Modifications it's incredible to see the progress happen in real time.
Still love mine, as much as I've been tempted to upgrade it over the years. GPUs been replaced twice though.
i havent updated my second (hacked) switch in a while wonder if i need to be on the most recent firmware to dump the cart
I'm pretty sure those freezes are due to caching shaders. Once everything is fully cached it'll most likely run perfectly you can tell by the freezes it only happens when looking in a "new" area.
Not when it comes to emulation, the CPU is super outdated and lacks a lot of instructions.
With a Ryzen 3600 which i would argue is the gold standard for best value CPUs you get far more performance.
I have a Ryzen 3700x, RTX 3080 and 32GB 3600 Ram and the game runs amazing for me at 4K something that i just can't experience on my Switch. I don't necessarily mind too much playing it on the TV but i struggle playing on the Switch itself as my eyes start blurring with most games, as soon as i stop playing switch it takes me a couple of hours for my eyes to be able to read things properly (Almost definitely something i should look into?)
