I don't see why it has to be a joke. I think about past sociology as incredibly relevant to today.
I don't see why it has to be a joke. I think about past sociology as incredibly relevant to today.
I only get my podcast news from Left, Right, and Center, because I want balanced news and the center is a good place to be.podcast fan wars are the worst fan wars, a pox on both your methods of media consumption
So TYT really didn't help the harassers find out her social media after all. Town Hall was the 25th, video was made on the 26th.Shit, OP's source link disagrees with his allegations against TYT:
Did TYT air their segment as a live reaction to the CNN town hall or was it hours or days after?
What as opposed to any corporate media entity? I think the young turks is a pretty sensationalist show for the most part, they get things wrong all the time, but they co-fund a lot of great smaller left wing channels like the majority report. To put them on the same level as people like Alex Jones and even warmongers like CNN is absurd to me.what's good faith about using your political positions to further your capital gains which is all TYT and Cenk cares about?
Yes, TYT aired a live segment of the Town Hall. As mentioned in the video that Powdered Egg posted. In fact, one of the commentators at one point mentions that information was dug up during that live segment.
So.......
They were going at the questioners on the livestream during the debate that night.
Not really. They had a livestream running in tandem:So TYT really didn't help the harassers find out her social media after all.
Yes, TYT aired a live segment of the Town Hall. As mentioned in the video that Powdered Egg posted. In fact, one of the commentators at one point mentions that information was dug up during that live segment.
So.......
I'm watching Powered Egg's clip and it's not a live segment? Was the information dug up during the live segment or was it aired during the live segment? I haven't seen anything that directly links the TYT segment to the doxxing. Which is how you opened your topic here. Even if you aren't willing to link directly to the video, a secondhand source that supported your claim would have made for a better topic, one that had the appearance of good faith.
And that's bullshit. Nobody should support a candidate who fully embraces what is essentially the Brietbart of the left for their own political gains. If people honestly think that TYT are out here putting out extremely divisive leftist news in order to spread the good work of social democrats and aren't just creating this content to fill their wallets off the backs of their devotional fanbase, then they should have no problem with far right wing candidates using Brietbart to get into political positions either.Bernie did pretty much everything he could short of calling out TYT directly, which he probably won't, because they + other leftist youtube channels are a big part of his media arm.
Please don't rely on Dan Carlin as your source for historical knowledgeI don't see why it has to be a joke. I think about past sociology as incredibly relevant to today.
They covered it live, then did a live TYT news cast. All of their videos are of live news casts usually when they are at that desk with the monitors in the back like that. They have non live clips like What the Flick, Damage Report, Think Tank, something the Ana person does, but a lot of their stuff is from their daily live streams. The coverage of Bernie's Town hall would have been them commentating and are usually for TYT members only. The next day where this clip is from is their daily normal live reporting and segments, which right after on the same day they chop up into individual videos like the video in question.
They didnt try to find their facebooks because they suspected CNN lied about their careers (they had no reason to assume so or even consider that). They looked them up on facebook and so on because they asked Bernie tough questions and were trying to dig up any dirt they could find on them because of this.
The 341k in local government would be for the District itself, not the federal government.Read your own source:
AND THEN:
So, that's 700k people directly in government alone. We don't have exact numbers for how many of that 960k is employed in lobbying firms, yes.
But, let me put it this way:
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/
There are 11.5k registered feaderal lobbyists(These are businesses not people) in D.C. Each of these lobbyists have their own firms and staff that is, if anything, greater than the thousands of people that each of the hundreds of congressmen employ. And their firms are mostly going to be based in D.C. for obvious reasons. And then these lobbyists have consultants that they work with who have their own firms but aren't called "lobbyists". My point is, it beggars belief that the 960k in professional business isn't mostly tied to the lobbying industry in one way or the other. This also isn't even to talk about DNC and RNC firms, advertising firms that are there to get that sweet campaign cash, and otherwise.
In either case, I believe I've sufficiently proven that, if you were to do a completely random sample in D.C., you're gonna have a large percentage of political operatives.
If you do a completely random samples in D.C. Democratic primary voters, you're gonna have a large percentage of those be political operatives for the democratic party.
What as opposed to any corporate media entity? I think the young turks is a pretty sensationalist show for the most part, they get things wrong all the time, but they co-fund a lot of great smaller left wing channels like the majority report. To put them on the same level as people like Alex Jones and even warmongers like CNN is absurd to me.
There's a huge difference between corporate entities like the NYTimes, WaPo, or NPR and extremist entities like TYT.What as opposed to any corporate media entity? I think the young turks is a pretty sensationalist show for the most part, they get things wrong all the time, but they co-fund a lot of great smaller left wing channels like the majority report. To put them on the same level as people like Alex Jones and even warmongers like CNN is absurd to me.
Being the Frontrunner in early 2019 for the 2020 election means nothing.Frankly given that Bernie is the frontrunner and likely to win that just makes it more important for his supporters to chill out
Quick to judge. I don't, I see you are banned but not against Hardcore History as condensing of pop history.Please don't rely on Dan Carlin as your source for historical knowledge
I'd say it's more on the online Democratic community. The groups I know irl aren't dealing with these conflicts at all (so far...).
If we adopt this line of thinking, yes.
It's a CNN political town hall in DC. The audience is not going to be random. It is going to be attracting politically minded people in the metro area with the highest % of politically minded people in the country.The 341k in local government would be for the District itself, not the federal government.
Although a percentage are, I don't think that the majority of the 960k are related to federal lobbying either. I don't see any data to back it up, just your speculation. I think many of those connected people would choose to live outside of DC itself in plush neighborhoods, too. Just because they are in that link you shared doesn't mean they are DC residents.
Being the Frontrunner in early 2019 for the 2020 election means nothing.
This is a marathon, not a sprint.
This is correct. TYT is shady bottom of the barrel-tier among left podcasts.TYT is sensationalist trash. Y'all should be watching Pod Save America.
Policy > Infotainment
Frankly given that Bernie is the frontrunner and likely to win that just makes it more important for his supporters to chill out
It's not like this is the first time CNN has done this, remember this gem from last year?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bu...-kavanaugh-are-actually-gop-operatives.70735/
The narrative this time seems to be fairly different since it's the left that benefits 🤷🏻♂️
Harassment bad, pretending party officials are regular citizens bad, Bernie mostly bad. There doesn't always have to be a good side and a bad side in every scenario all sides can be bad!
Because "CNN is bad and this is a pattern of bad behavior we've seen from them before" is an opinion that's not controversial or disputed. The problems are coming with behavior online towards the people who didn't pick the CNN chyrons and also with some of the examples being criticized not actually being a problem and instead being an example of conspiratorial thinking. A college student who did 1 internship at a lobbying firm is still a college student and labelling them as such is completely appropriate.I really dont see why this conversation is mainly about TYT, CNN put these people out there, the information was dug up by others before TYT picked it up and they reported on it using public information that was either relevant to the story or available in the town hall. I saw this shit on the Chapo subreddit shortly after the debate. Is there an argument that citing public facebook profiles in reporting as going too far I guess theres an argument. Is there an argument that this sort of media criticism serves no use? I disagree.
But labelling a democratic chairwoman as a former teacher is not. And they did that too.Because "CNN is bad and this is a pattern of bad behavior we've seen from them before" is an opinion that's not controversial or disputed. The problems are coming with behavior online towards the people who didn't pick the CNN chyrons and also with some of the examples being criticized not actually being a problem and instead being an example of conspiratorial thinking. A college student who did 1 internship at a lobbying firm is still a college student and labelling them as such is completely appropriate.
She is an INTERN while in college. Claiming she isn't a "regular citizen" and a "party officials" is victim blaming and just plain wrong.
Thank you. That is the conversation, not the specific questions. Exactly what I meant by what is the line.I really dont see why this conversation is mainly about TYT, CNN put these people out there, the information was dug up by others before TYT picked it up and they reported on it using public information that was either relevant to the story or available in the town hall. I saw this shit on the Chapo subreddit shortly after the debate. Is there an argument that citing public facebook profiles in reporting as going too far I guess theres an argument. Is there an argument that this sort of media criticism serves no use? I disagree.
But labelling a democratic chairwoman as a former teacher is not. And they did that too.
Because "CNN is bad and this is a pattern of bad behavior we've seen from them before" is an opinion that's not controversial or disputed. The problems are coming with behavior online towards the people who didn't pick the CNN chyrons and also with some of the examples being criticized not actually being a problem and instead being an example of conspiratorial thinking. A college student who did 1 internship at a lobbying firm is still a college student and labelling them as such is completely appropriate.
I feel like the term "Bernie Bros" has become multi-faceted.
- During the campaign, Bernie fans were frequently douchebags on social media regarding their candidate - including doxxing and harassment efforts. This happened.
- Russian networks also spread rumors of Bernie voters who flipped sides to Trump in November. This did not happen in any statistically significant manner, and only existed to divide liberal voters after the election.
Both were referred to as Bernie Bros.
I made a thread about the CNN thing but it got closed. They weren't all women. The guy who was "a community leader" was a county chair for the DNC. Why did it make any sense for them not to disclose that relevant bit of information?This makes you wonder:
Are these people doing this to protect Bernie's image?
Or are they doing this whenever a woman gets too "uppity"
This is exactly what is happening, but those that dislike Bernie are going to bring up the Bros and see what they want to see out of this story. TYT put out information on a lot of questioners but the only one getting harrassed to hell and back is coincidentally Arab or Muslim, a woman, and brought up a woman's rights issue. The question wasn't even tough and Wolf n Bernie answered it properly. The usual woman-hating culprits online are behind this harrassment, not Sanders supporters.This makes you wonder:
Are these people doing this to protect Bernie's image?
Or are they doing this whenever a woman gets too "uppity"
Correct. I was saying there were marginal criticisms that are bad along with the legit one, not that they were all bad.But labelling a democratic chairwoman as a former teacher is not. And they did that too.
They are regular citizens! The problem is that holding a town hall in DC is gonna self-select the audience to be politically active people because it's DC.If it was just one college student, that would be fine. Understandable mistake. But CNN repeatedly presented the questioners as regular townhall attendees (student, mother, former biology professor) in order to hide their roles as active political operatives. The whole point of the format of a townhall is to allow regular citizens outside of the halls of politics to ask the questions that matter to them. That's not what CNN did here, even if the questions tended to be favorable to Bernie's message overall.
If it was just one college student, that would be fine. Understandable mistake. But CNN repeatedly presented the questioners as regular townhall attendees (student, mother, former biology professor) in order to hide their roles as active political operatives. The whole point of the format of a townhall is to allow regular citizens outside of the halls of politics to ask the questions that matter to them. That's not what CNN did here, even if the questions tended to be favorable to Bernie's message overall.
I made a thread about the CNN thing but it got closed. They weren't all women. The guy who was "a community leader" was a county chair for the DNC. Why did it make any sense for them not to disclose that relevant bit of information?
The questioners with the title shuffling were all randomly PoC/women though too, which kind of seems as if they were picked to ask him stuff because of the narrative or whatever of Bernie not being understanding to their groups. It just seems to me like it wasn't a random occurrence
First, local government includes politics and their staff. Second here's how I know the majority of that 960k is from the lobbying industry:The 341k in local government would be for the District itself, not the federal government.
Although a percentage are, I don't think that the majority of the 960k are related to federal lobbying either. I don't see any data to back it up, just your speculation. I think many of those connected people would choose to live outside of DC itself in plush neighborhoods, too. Just because they are in that link you shared doesn't mean they are DC residents.
I hope she's doing well.And yet it;s the intern college student who is being harassed hmmm.