You can only pick one: Super Mario RPG 2 or a true Paper Mario 3(same style ans as good or better than 64/ttyd)
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Paper Mario. The Thousand-Year Door is the greatest game ever made. A new one as good or better than the greatest game ever made seems like a bit of a no brainer to me.
I would take the return of Alphadream over either hypothetical option (and this is coming from somebody who generally prefers PM.) It's pretty telling how obsessed some people are with the minor characters and aesthetic trappings of SMRPG, yet have nothing but contempt for the staff members who actually made the SNES game, whether they're directing M&L games or Color Splash.
I think if AlphaDream were still alive we would probably have another Mario & Luigi being developed for the Switch right now and I would welcome it.
Given how many Paper Mario have been in that style, related to how many entries the series have, can we really say that 64 and TTYD are the TRUE Paper Mario games?
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Well, most res evil fans say the first three games are the true style, even though there are more games not in that style.
Mario RPG 2 easily. I have no affinity for Paper Mario - I don't care for the art style at all so it always felt like a pale imitation of a much better and more fun game.
The series only really changed with Sticker Star on the 3DS and that's also the time when the Mario & Luigi games started falling apart. Both series suffered when Nintendo tried to juggle them both on the same system and throughout the 3DS/WiiU era.
64 & TTYD in the old style
Super Paper Mario as the odd one out
SS & CS in the new style
Pretty even so far
I'd prefer SMRPG2
But really all I care about is Geno coming back. I'd allow PM3 if it had Paper Geno.
But really all I care about is Geno coming back. I'd allow PM3 if it had Paper Geno.
I know, to some extent.
But it comes down to a wide variety of party characters, the number you can bring to battle at a time, how the battle plays out, how the world is laid out, how encounters happen, lots of other things. I've admittedly only played very little of the Paper Mario games, so maybe they have progressed more in this direction after I quit playing them, I don't know. But what I would like to see is really close to FF6 with Mario characters. Get that right and I don't care about the aesthetic.
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Well it's a "fantasy scenario" based on that the companies are in reality. Nintendo has been doing good for a lot of franchises on the switch and doing a lot of fan request type things, and intelligent is still intelligent. Square is a universe away from the mid 90's.
The Mario RPG series has always reminded me of the Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Sonic Adventure games where people try really hard to pretend that all 3 franchises haven't gotten numerous sequels over the years. Especially Mario & Sonic whose Japanese titles make the connection pretty obvious:
Super Mario RPG 2 / Mario Story
Paper Mario RPG
Mario & Luigi RPG
etc.
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Sort of, although the 3d sonic games are probably generally closer than comparing the 3 different mario rpg lines. Smrpg is final fantasy with mario. Paper mario is basically a super simplified basic rpg template taking the mario universe. Mrio and luigi took the basic paper mario mechanics, but made it more action based in combat.
Same here. SMRPG was one of my first and favorite jrpgs ever. Paper Mario 1 and TTYD were good, but were no way epic as SMRPG. I was very underwhelmed by PM1 when it released since I had a crazy ammount of hype due to my love for SMRPG. PMs are still good games (I mean, the first two), but there is no competition for me when it comes to legends of the seven star.
I love the Paper Mario games but Super Mario RPG is my favorite game of all time. I have to go with the OG. They would of course need to bring back Geno.
Paper Mario 3 for me. Super Mario RPG is a bonafide classic, no doubt, but the last three Paper Mario games going off the rails and disappointing to various degrees after the brilliant Thousand-Year Door has just made me crave a true follow-up that much more. There's only one Super Mario RPG, and it will always be fantastic but it feels like a very complete, fully explored package as it is, so I don't feel the need for a sequel to that as much. But I mean, I'd happily take a SMRPG 2 as well, especially if Mallow returned.
The best timeline would give us a proper Paper Mario 3 composed by Yoko Shimomura.
The best timeline would give us a proper Paper Mario 3 composed by Yoko Shimomura.
A new Super Mario RPG, but it would need:
-Yoko Shimomura music
-Be turn based
-Diverse party with original characters and locations, mixed with some unexpected team-up
-Dark color palette like the SNES game, felt so cool and different from regular happy shiny Mario at the time
-Main villain that is NOT Bowser
-Big world, long story (60-80 hours)
-Geno
-Yoko Shimomura music
-Be turn based
-Diverse party with original characters and locations, mixed with some unexpected team-up
-Dark color palette like the SNES game, felt so cool and different from regular happy shiny Mario at the time
-Main villain that is NOT Bowser
-Big world, long story (60-80 hours)
-Geno
Super Mario RPG site in my top 5 games of all time. I would love nothing more than a sequel.
I'm surprised that the poll is so close. Only because we've had multiple Paper Mario games and one SMRPG game and that was in the 90's. I think it's time for another one.
I'm surprised that the poll is so close. Only because we've had multiple Paper Mario games and one SMRPG game and that was in the 90's. I think it's time for another one.
I don't believe there's a meaningful distinction between "SMRPG game" and the multiple Mario RPGs we've gotten since the 90s
Yep, and that's why I mentally appended the word "true" when talking about SM RPG2, just for fairness.
We already have a proper sequel to Mario RPG that is called Mario & Luigi SSS, made by the same developers and better than the original in every single aspect, yo name it, story, battle system, humor, etc (not that hard, since the original is quite a mediocre and irrelevant game; SNES has 20 or more better JRPGs).
Personally, I would like them to fully turn the Paper Mario into an adventure game, I think they got the right idea in Sticker Star; but that lacked polish. Would love to solve outside the box puzzles to win battles using paper mechanics. I don't mind Toads being turned into rabbids/minions, it's fitting in the Mario universe.
If I had to choose, just continue the M&L series, but give it more time in the oven, we don't need this to be a yearly or biyearly series. Once every 4-5 years is great.
Personally, I would like them to fully turn the Paper Mario into an adventure game, I think they got the right idea in Sticker Star; but that lacked polish. Would love to solve outside the box puzzles to win battles using paper mechanics. I don't mind Toads being turned into rabbids/minions, it's fitting in the Mario universe.
If I had to choose, just continue the M&L series, but give it more time in the oven, we don't need this to be a yearly or biyearly series. Once every 4-5 years is great.
I like to think there are. I think there needs to be a collaboration between SE and Nintendo again, and it needs to have that over the top look as opposed to the paper art style. I think the art style and the soundtrack are some of the best in gaming. Oh and we also need Geno back. that's an absolute must.
The game being good, bad or mediocre is subjective, but it was hardly irrelevant.
I'm sure it sold a lot and it was a gateway for a lot of western kids (me included) to experience a JRPG for the first time. Also, some of its original characters are awesome and should be used more in the Mario universe.
And as I said in my previous post, a Mario game with a dark color palette that retains the Mario charm like SMRPG did, is something I would like to see more often.
I mean, most of the former Square employees who gave SMRPG its identity ended up working on the Mario & Luigi games anyway
and Geno's there too!
Yes, to me this distinction is what is critical.
I would like all these, make it look like Paper whatever I don't care but if most of the above are there then that is what I want.