Yakuza: Like A Dragon had regular Yakuza combat at first, only changed to turn-based because of the positive reception to their April Fools video.
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For sure. Like classic turn based rpg is almost baked into the character of ichiban to a large degree. It makes me wonder if they rewrote large parts of the writing/characterization after the change.
If there's any truth to it, I'm sure it would have had to be something like FF7r. There's no way they worked in the party elements and specials in the 6 months to the reveal.
The only thing that has no place in 2020 is unbelievably bad takes like this
The rampant success of Pokemon, Dragon Quest, and Persona say hi
Beat the import and the PC version. Yeah put me on the list of people sadden by this change. Good game, but the series just isn't gonna be the same for me in this new direction. I'm brawler all the way no matter how many posts come here trashing the old combat system and such. With this change, 3D brawlers are all but dead and that sucks.
I'm just gonna hope we still get some non Yakuza real time entries like a Judgment 2 or PC ports of the previous titles.
Thank you for this post. It's so annoying when people come in these tips of threads and say that the thing you enjoy is somehow invalid because they themselves don't appreciate it.
I'm just gonna hope we still get some non Yakuza real time entries like a Judgment 2 or PC ports of the previous titles.
Thank you for this post. It's so annoying when people come in these tips of threads and say that the thing you enjoy is somehow invalid because they themselves don't appreciate it.
I was thinking more Persona specifically, and mainly just 3-5 lol. I'm nowhere near informed enough on the greater SMT series to really know. But still, for fools like me, I only even started picking up on the series from Persona 3 up (and even then, I played 5 first!)
I still think Yakuza could have done well no matter the gameplay.
Nice, can't wait to dive back into Yakuza again. Got burnt out real hard on the repetitive combat
Oh well, that's unfortunate. Been playing Yakuza games since Y3 on the PS3. I guess the future games are kinda dead to me from now on, no interest in turn-based combat at all.
That's impressive. Personally, I really love the shift. I got tired of the old style a long time ago, and shifting to a new genre with a fresh cast was a brilliant way to make the series exciting to me again. I would have passed over 7 entirely if it wasn't for this.
The way the game transitioned a lot of old concepts to an RPG is really fun and inventive.
The way the game transitioned a lot of old concepts to an RPG is really fun and inventive.
Liking it a lot, though the brawler systems were okay they were pretty mindless. You'd also get stuck into that rut of doing the same shit over and over because it was fastest. This game you get to see a lot more varied attacks and regular battles can actually feel unique. Also having a real party feels more natural with the character bond/development compared to Kiryu going solo most of the time.
I just wish the base difficulty was a harder.
I just wish the base difficulty was a harder.
I'm a diehard Yakuza series fan, but was getting sick of the same mindless brawler gameplay. The shift to RPG was a real breath of fresh air for the series.
Having said that, i'd love for the Judgment series to run in parallel with the old combat system.
Having said that, i'd love for the Judgment series to run in parallel with the old combat system.
I hope no one was overworked
1) The idea that a game has to be the most complicated in its entire genre to actually have merit is not only just silly. Its insulting to those who are did make those games.
2) You are assuming that combat wasn't key to some peoples experiences.
If you like new yakuza? Sure fine, that's cool. I like the characters enough , the goofy bullshit is there. But Don't sit and think that people didn't loose anything with especially with a genre that was already basically dead. Like actually vhill, your statements serve no one and only serve to insult the people who likely made this new game you like as well.
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1) The idea that a game has to be the most complicated in its entire genre to actually have merit is not only just silly. Its insulting to those who are did make those games.
2) You are assuming that combat wasn't key to some peoples experiences.
If you like new yakuza? Sure fine, that's cool. I like the characters enough , the goofy bullshit is there. But Don't sit and think that people didn't loose anything with especially with a genre that was already basically dead. Like actually vhill, your statements serve no one and only serve to insult the people who likely made this new game you like as well.
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Uh because it is fun?
Streets of Rage 2 is a game that is really simple. Does that make it not fun?
Agreed. I don't understand why people can't understand that some people (in this case people who love brawling and want more) like the combat. There are different tastes and if their taste is different that doesn't mean it is the default taste.
People always get mad about JRPGs going action or some genre of games dying and you would think people who were burned by it would understand others.
It kinda sucks to hear Nagoshi himself talk about difficulty in the vid where these details originated from. I mean, I get the need for east difficulty for those that just want to enjoy the game without difficulty. But I wish hard mode was actually... hard. Or at least far more challenging. Its a minor complaint though, won't stop me enjoying the series.
SoR2 is more complex than Yakuza brawling, that's my issue. Not good if you already think SoR2 is simple.
Because the yakuza game had a great aesthetic that not a lot of games replicates nowadays, so a simple brawler isn't gonna do anything for me personally.
Mind telling me how?
Cause Yakuza is much more complex mechanically and you can customize the combat (without getting rid of the simplicity).
In a world where nearly all JRPGs have shifted into action combat, it's really fun and interesting to see an action franchise put out a (likely solitary) turn-based entry.
Cause there's really not much there. You get a couple styles but it's pretty much still just mash on attack, trigger some heat attacks here or there. Then you have the overhanging "you can drink/eat/use X at any time" to save your ass. Mechanically it's not really better than SoR2 and the item system pretty much breaks any challenge you could have.
By killing a genre?
Why is this fun? There are plenty of JRPGs and no matter how much action rpgs there is still JRPGs coming out every year.
When was the last time we got a 3D brawler that isn't Yakuza?
It's going to be a long time before I get to 7, but after just finishing 0 (my first Yakuza game), I'm really curious to see what the turn-based system is like. I never quite clicked with the combat in 0. It's not that it's bad or anything, but wave after wave after wave of similar mobs, even in the story missions, got really old after a while. Still a 9.5/10 game though!
You haven't been experimenting if that's how you play the games. Sure you can use drinks to break the game but that doesn't mean the combat is bare bones. There is enough meat for experimenting. Different items can make you experiment different from others.
SOR2 meanwhile you can go through without much going on. It feels the same every time and that's fine because it is fun. Same goes to Yakuza (but it is still a game that does way more than you say while still being simple enough).
It's likely a one-time spinoff of a single franchise, not the entire genre.
That's where you are wrong.
The game is a mainline game. It is literally called Yakuza 7 and Ichiban is the new face of the series.
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio are absolute beasts. Screw it, give them the Sonic franchise, Sonic Team can't seem to do a competent job with the series.
Relax, there's plenty of other 3D brawlers out there. It's good to see Yakuza do something like this.
Relax, there's plenty of other 3D brawlers out there. It's good to see Yakuza do something like this.
If all the future Yakuza games, and all similar games in the genre switch over to turn-based JRPG combat, I'll be shocked. But I think that's extremely unlikely.
Can you tell us where we can get them?
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I am praying that's the case but I want to be sure.
Google what? Games that came out on PS2 and the older Yakuza games I played many times?
Great logic. I guess every genre like JRPGs, RTS, Shoot em ups etc should die too cause there are a lot of them.
The hell? You brought it up the burden of proof is on you.
I wasn't keen on it at first but I grew to enjoy it. I'd prefer Yakuza to be a brawler first but the turn-based style surprisingly works.
I'm having a lot of fun with Y7 but honestly very little of the enjoyment is coming from the new combat. It honestly feels to me like they sacrificed the series to try to capture Persona fans. Looks like maybe it paid off for them, seeing some people in this thread shitting on the previous entries. But I hope I'm just wrong and overly emotional.
I really enjoy Yakuzas brawler combat, so I was slightly apprehensive when they announced such a radical departure for Like A Dragon. The turn-based system they devised is very good though, and what flaws it does have can hopefully be ironed out in a succeeding entry. For a first attempt, it's a marvelous achievement, far more accomplished than Dead Souls's shooter gameplay, and among the best turn-based systems this generation.
This is where I stand too. The game is still quality and I loved plenty of aspects of it including the story, the new Yokohama map, the characters, the localization, the music, some of the new side stuff etc. It's just the new main gameplay loop isn't for me since it simply doesn't align with my tastes. For anyone that's already on board with turn based games, I can't see this game being anything else than a success.
This change simply feels like the series is moving on from audiences like me which is simply another checkmark to add on my increasing reasons for this hobby continuing to be less and less appealing to me by the day. Oh well.
Hmm, it might not stay the exact same, but I have big doubts of the series returning to straight brawler after Y7. Ichiban is the face of the series moving forward, and I can't imagine them dumping the what 7 built up. Especially since they seemed really happy with the game.
Turn based combat is the best thing that happened to this series. I'm loving Like A Dragon so much!
