ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
Maybe instead of going the Mixer route they sign 2000 smaller streamers and have them bring over their smaller audiences that would actually tune into other streams?

Or they can just blow a cool hundred milly on a dude whose viewers won't watch other streams and can still watch him on other platforms.

What do I know.
You're actually wrong on this, because Kick isn't Twitch. They don't want people to watch other streams, they want people to watch XQC gambling so they go and do the same. It's not about growing the platform, it's about growing the casino.
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,987
You're actually wrong on this, because Kick isn't Twitch. They don't want people to watch other streams, they want people to watch XQC gambling so they go and do the same. It's not about growing the platform, it's about growing the casino.
Oh, is that the case? I haven't been following.

If that's the case, then yeah, lol.
 

IIFloodyII

Member
Oct 26, 2017
25,751
what does non-exclusive mean in this sense?

won't Twitch ban him anyways? i guess it means he's free to stream on Youtube/Facebook or something?
Twitch not too long ago stopped making their partner contracts exclusive (probably some exceptions), you just can't stream on Twitch and another streaming platform at the same time.

At worst he might lose his contract if it was an exclusive one, but would still be able to stream, just wouldn't be a partner streamer anymore.
 

SP.

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,243
Sorry but that's too much money for a video game streamer. Something feels sketchy about this.
 

ASS

Member
Oct 27, 2017
25
Twitch removed the non-exclusivity clause for monetised streamers recently:

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The spate of Kick signings have been non-exclusive contracts because it allows streamers to start their streams on twitch and then move over to to Kick mid stream. They see it as the most effective way of leveraging twitch's strength, the community.
 

Hale

Member
Jul 19, 2022
16
this contracting streamers thing didn't work for mixer - i dunno if its gonna work here but wow thats a gross sum of money
 

Papercuts

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,737
I thought Twitch's deal was that you can't simultaneously stream on rival platforms? If he streams on Twitch some days and on Kick others I assumed that was allowed.

I think you're allowed to simul-stream but you can't be partnered on twitch/make money there if you do it.
 

JMS

Member
Jul 22, 2022
3,637
Sorry but that's too much money for a video game streamer. Something feels sketchy about this.
The "catch" here is that kick is owned by one of the biggest (if not biggest) Crypto gambling website who has paid streamers before to gamble on their website on Twitch, before Twitch took a stance against casino/slots, it's the reason why the Kick website got launched in the first place.

This deal is probably to get him on their streaming site and to gamble + encourage his viewers to gamble on the crypto website he'll be using.
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,987
Yeah it's bleak for very different reasons than all the Mixer/YouTube contracts lol
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tmarg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,728
Kalamazoo
Assuming the contract includes gambling, who knows how much he's actually getting. The numbers are all bullshit on gambling streams.
 

Bobbyleejones

Banned
Aug 25, 2019
2,581
Are they supposed to throw 100 mill at him not to stream there?

There a few twitch streamers who also do streaming on kick for a varying amount of time per week.

Twitch removed illegal gambling from their site. That's a win. Let the trash take itself out.
No but their recent policy changes have been making their top streamers start looking at other sites.

Also Twitch has allowed gambling back on their site. They haven't removed it entirely
 

Scarface

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,311
Canada
I don't think y'all realize how many viewers and likely revenue xqc brought in for these sites when he streamed it on twitch. He had like 100-150k viewers just pulling slots. It was wild.

Clearly they feel it's worth it.
 

rare

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,460
this contracting streamers thing didn't work for mixer - i dunno if its gonna work here but wow thats a gross sum of money
Kick's owned by a gambling company, xQc has a gambling addiction and made a lot of money while streaming himself gambling.
Kick doesn't care about getting revenue for the service they provide to streamers, they care about getting new gambling addicts.
 

N7_Kovalski

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,524
Terrible person gets paid crazy amount of money to promote gambling to other people (mostly minors) from site run by other terrible people.
 

SimplyComplex

Member
May 23, 2018
4,610
Absurd amount of money. Reminds me of the Ninja/Mixer deal and I assume it will end the same exact way once Kick inevitably shuts down.
 

BigSkinny0310

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account.
Banned
Dec 7, 2017
2,940
I don't think we should celebrate a person getting paid to stream on a website that hosts literal nazis alongside it's biggest streamers consistently making threats against LBGT people and their allies. Not to mention the giant elephant in the room named gambling. A dude straight up showed porn to minors just to prove that he could do so without getting banned.
I like his content. I'm happy for him that he got paid for his content. I'm not cheerleading the platform
 

Sei

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,240
LA
Yeah good deal for XQC. As long as he's getting the money upfront or guaranteed. If Kick dies a year down the line, he already got paid. But let's be honest, he'll probably gamble it back to Kick before the year is over.

Just throwing money at streamers doesn't make Kick legitimate competition for Twitch, they are still super small, have large funds from gambling money. The website is worse than how Mixer was, they are paying Twitch back for all its back end, and have terrible moderation.
 
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Iadien

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,387
No other platform can even come close to offering this kind of deal. Kick being backed by crypto gambling sure allows them to do some crazy ass shit.
 
Dec 9, 2018
25,527
New Jersey
All I know about Kick is that it was so "pro free speech" that it signed a deal with Adin Ross, the most repugnant livestreamer on the planet, so that says pretty much all I need to know about the platform. Twitch makes some dumb moves but the alternatives are often run by right wing imbeciles (and there's YouTube).
 

Garrett 2U

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,511
It is crazy how streaming games has gone from grifting for donations to providing your audience a gateway to gambling addiction!
 

Casa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,337
Man, I just hope no streamer I actually care about moves to that right wing, "just about anything goes," no moderation platform.

Twitch has absolutely brought this upon itself with terrible policy decision after terrible policy decision. They seem to have been actively trying to chase away its partners. But damn, I wish all these people would go to YouTube Gaming instead of a shithole like Kick.

Mainstreaming a platform like Kick is going to be horrible. 😔
 

ZeoVGM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
79,867
Providence, RI
My general thoughts:

- Twitch having competition is a very good thing.
- However, Kick is garbage. Filled with alt-right trash and little to no moderation.
- xQc is an actual fucking moron and it's depressing to see people like him fail upward.
- Kick is going to fail because, as we have seen before, business moves like this are not sustainable.

Rather not see threads of him here or any streamer. They're all trash that contribute nothing to the industry.

Ignorant and childish takes like this get very tiring.
 

Kyle Cross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,901
Shame it's not exclusive. Would be nice to have seen the platform change plummet him into irrelevancy, like what happened to Ninja.
 

Laserbeam

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,602
Canada
Wild.

I'm not super familiar with him, but I've seen clips where he was pretty entertaining and had some good takes, as well as some where he came off as a complete moron who didn't seem to even know what he was talking about, so I don't know if I can say "good for him" or not.

I guess, like others have said, he can do the gambling again.
 

Falcon511

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,271
This is for his gambling streams. XQC has a gambling problem. I believe his uncle had similar issues.

Kicks who scam is to get the streamers, they bring the audience, the streamer gets paid to gamble while broadcasting, and that gets kids into gambling. Its a scam.

I cant understand a single word he says sometimes. He talks way to fast. In all fairness, I can talk fast and slur my words together as well. But my mind always moves faster.
 

Soj

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,256
Yay, one of the most irritating fucks on the internet can go back to pushing gambling on kids.