So how would you do it?
Got any examples?
Also I'm not comparing rrp, I stated how much lower the 1s is compared to the RRP and saying it will be a similar situation for the X1sd.
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Xbox One S All Digital launch details and price leaked (May 7th, 229€)
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So how would you do it?
Got any examples?
Also I'm not comparing rrp, I stated how much lower the 1s is compared to the RRP and saying it will be a similar situation for the X1sd.
You know physical media is dying or dead everywhere right?
And LOL at people in this thread not understanding some basics.
-EU RRP's typically directly translate to US dollars. So no, this is likely not $259 in the US, it's 229.
-I dont keep up with MSRP's, but apparently the actual MSRP for the Xbox S is 299. The MSRP for this will be 229. Can we do some basic math when both are on sale (which is very very often) which will be on sale for less?
Since Xbox S hits as low as 199 in holidays, I'd expect this to hit 149, possibly.
I'd consider this just for the novelty. The first mainstream diskless Xbox/PS. Certainly not to be the last. And the small size.
This late in the cycle, you look at what is releasing and the price of a comparable unit during the holiday rush and that price. We are on an enthusiasts forum and know how this shit goes.
Do you think the price is competitive? Is it what you were expecting? Because it is $50 more than I thought it would be.
Precisly, its almost like common sense is just absent from some. Or they are just say incorrect things to stir trouble.
Well it's only missing a UHD blue Ray drive, and it comes with 3 games, so it's not going to be a huge reduction.
But considering you can get an X1S with minecraft for £218. £199 FOR AN X1sd, minecraft, sot + forza h 3 is decent, and like you said your rrp is not normally adhered to, even at launch, so it will probably be even less then £199.
The reduction percentage will likely be similar in deals too.
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That's because there's a nice fat retailer premium on those prices. That's how normal hardware sales actually work.
Video game consoles are an exception to the norm. The profit margin on the hardware is razor thin, but you make your money on the software (and to a much lesser extent, the accessories). Software sales are the bulk of their business. In the case of an all-digital console though, retailers can't sell software for it... so the only way they can make money is by selling it like any old normal piece of hardware.
That's why the PSP Go was so much more expensive than any other model of the PSP. It's also why retailers absolutely hate digital and have fought against it since the very beginning.
The 229 is way to high. At least here in Germany you can buy a xbox one S nearly every time of the year for around 200€ (165€ right now)
I think his point is that the RRP isn't always the price you see in the store
Not could there have been much of a discount. The UHD drive costs like 15USD.
you know that this is bullshit, right?
last time i´ve checked i could buy all games physical, most are way cheaper than digital games. and i can sell them too!
go digital how you want it but don´t assume physical is dying at all
When was the last time you bought a cd? Or A pc game dvd? Or a blue ray?
I buy CDs frequently. I don't know a single person that buys more console games digitally as opposed to physically (this is in Australia). If this new Xbox ends up getting similar discounts to the current Xbox One S then I'll buy it in a heartbeat as a game pass machine.
Netflix disc is still the best service Netflix offers, it doesnt change that less and less people are using it.
It's probably just the same board , heatsink, and power supply that's in a disk system.
It seems more like a test than a push to put out a cheaper unit so it makes sense to not change manufacturing/ production too much to create this thing.
If they think that price is an incentive for losing physical then they fucked up. $260 should include a year of live at a minimum. And even that isnt all that enticing. An all digital box that is about to be replaced needs to be sub $200. Did manufacturers learn nothing from their hardware sales falling off a cliff last gen because their prices were too high for late gen consumers.
This plus the gamepass + live offer they put out recently that actually doesnt save money is making me wonder if they're going to shoot themselves in the foot and price themselves out of contention after all the good will they garnered.
This plus the gamepass + live offer they put out recently that actually doesnt save money is making me wonder if they're going to shoot themselves in the foot and price themselves out of contention after all the good will they garnered.
Right? It was 499€ and $499 at launch. So this will be 229€ and $229, too. Makes sense imo.
You would think they would discount it because you are forced to buy from their store rather than any store. The lock in should be the reason for the discount
I bought my last CD album in 2009 (A-ha, Foot of the Mountain), all my music is now iTunes + vinyl. I buy 100% of my Switch and Xbox One games digitally (started out physical on Xbox One, but sold everything and repurchased digitally when One S launched), I've cancelled my Game Pass after discovering that it would actually be cheaper to just buy the games I play from that library. And I only buy physical for PS4 because most 1st party disc games are 50% off (or more) after a year or so.
Modern consoles have a higher price floor than the older ones. Spinning CD drives, HDDs from external suppliers, higher ram amounts. No immediate die shrinks to save cost without significant investment
He's baiting, he's clearly talking out his ass and has zero idea what he's actually talking about
Then again really the wrong thread to be avoiding all digital agenda pushing ?
Incredible that Microsoft can be so boneheaded sometimes.
It's the same size as the S despite having a sizeable chunk of its insides removed AND is barely any cheaper.
Like, why even bother releasing it at this point? It's already dead in the water.
It's the same size as the S despite having a sizeable chunk of its insides removed AND is barely any cheaper.
Like, why even bother releasing it at this point? It's already dead in the water.
You expected the official price to be lower than BF price?
Its 70$ cheaper
The point of this thing really is less to sell units and more to make a statement about their digital future, and provide another springboard for their efforts to move more of their audience to digital.
I mean you can regularly get a full featured S with 2 new AAA games for roughly the same price, so this ain't that good of a deal for EU markets. Probably more enticing for US folks where I hear Xbox prices aren't as crazy low, since the platform is actually relevant there.
I don't see street retailers cutting down the price to €189/€169 themselves since they would be selling a SKU where they have no profit projections besides cards and accessories, do it'll probably be pushed behind the counters after the first couple of months and relegate stock to mainly e-stores, unless Microsoft doesn't propose something interesting to make it worth to them.
I don't see street retailers cutting down the price to €189/€169 themselves since they would be selling a SKU where they have no profit projections besides cards and accessories, do it'll probably be pushed behind the counters after the first couple of months and relegate stock to mainly e-stores, unless Microsoft doesn't propose something interesting to make it worth to them.
And if no one buys any of these units, what statement does that actually make?
The price of digital games, the inability to have any resale and the balancing between traditional retail and online is a mess. I regret being all digital on switch. The convenience does not outweigh the commerce.
In europe they've already sold their bundle with 3 or 4 games at 199€ and it flopped anyway so they can even sell for 99€ and nothing will change at this point.
I can find a regular S going for about 250 euros over here and with some games included as well
Thee only reason I'd ever consider buying and all digital xbox one without the 4k blue-ray is if it was 150 euros or less
But I guess this is more of a cost cut to increase margins than lower the prices, I'm sure the xbox division could use any penny they can get
Thee only reason I'd ever consider buying and all digital xbox one without the 4k blue-ray is if it was 150 euros or less
But I guess this is more of a cost cut to increase margins than lower the prices, I'm sure the xbox division could use any penny they can get
Of course something will change. They'll sell pretty well at 99 euros if it comes to that.
This leak has me kinda hoping for an all-digital X where the space from removing the disc drive perhaps allows for even better cooling. I know in general the X handles cooling quite well and stays quiet during operation, but my Project Scorpio console has started to match and sometimes exceed the noise levels of my launch model PS4 Pro (which I just replaced a few months ago with an updated, quieter model).
Fan noise is seemingly like an oddly common issue for me this generation. OG launch PS4 was loud, my launch PS4 Pro was loud, and my Project Scorpio X is now loud. My OG Xbox 1 and my XB1S were never, ever an issue when it came to operation noise, though... But the noise from my original PS4 Pro and now my X can cut through my soundbar quite easily and it's kind of frustratingly distracting.
Anyway, I am all-digital on the Xbox side of things and I have a dedicated UHD player so I don't need that function out of my X. If improved cooling became a priority improvement of an all-digital X model, I'd probably seriously consider the trade. 2TB internal storage would be nice too but I make due with 1TB right now.
Fan noise is seemingly like an oddly common issue for me this generation. OG launch PS4 was loud, my launch PS4 Pro was loud, and my Project Scorpio X is now loud. My OG Xbox 1 and my XB1S were never, ever an issue when it came to operation noise, though... But the noise from my original PS4 Pro and now my X can cut through my soundbar quite easily and it's kind of frustratingly distracting.
Anyway, I am all-digital on the Xbox side of things and I have a dedicated UHD player so I don't need that function out of my X. If improved cooling became a priority improvement of an all-digital X model, I'd probably seriously consider the trade. 2TB internal storage would be nice too but I make due with 1TB right now.
Hmnn.. Personally I would have called it the Xbox One D and painted it a different color so it wouldn't be confused with the S. It would have been $199 USD (which I still think the All digital edition will be when announced) and no games just a month of gamepass and gold.
