I disagree with this statement 100%
MS has long needed to invest in a Japanese based studio and there is no better time to start than now imho
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I disagree with this statement 100%
MS has long needed to invest in a Japanese based studio and there is no better time to start than now imho
Isn't Ninja Garden absurdly difficult? I very much do not want a game that is going to give me an aneurysm. As long as there are difficulty settings I'll be down.
Haha
Not anymore.
NG pales in comparison to Bloodborne, Souls etc.
I didn't mean the challenge. I meant more like the theme of the game.
Usually, they're kind of like the SoulsBorne games in their challenging nature. I'm personally not really a fan of them.
I like this idea a lot. Too bad itll never happen, but still love it.
My idea for a new Conker game is kinda weird.
I want something that sticks to the BFD style of platforming and occasional setpiece-based gameplay mixups and is full of movie references.
But I want the artstyle to ape claymation to an almost uncanny degree. I'd call it Clay Conker or something. Not a very original idea I know, but I think it could turn some heads.
I want something that sticks to the BFD style of platforming and occasional setpiece-based gameplay mixups and is full of movie references.
But I want the artstyle to ape claymation to an almost uncanny degree. I'd call it Clay Conker or something. Not a very original idea I know, but I think it could turn some heads.
I miss Ninja Gaiden so much! The Souls games don't do it for me, they are too slow, it doesn't compare to the fast paced action and extremely high difficulty of Ninja Gaiden, and I really like the setting of the Gaiden games. Really wish MS would hire Tomonobu Itagaki and get the rights to Ninja Gaiden from Tecmo for an exclusive on Anaconda. I miss that guy, such a great character. Those were the days! There was so much japanese support back then, never understood why Tecmo had such good support for the Xbox, same goes for Sega.
Was nice if it'd go back to those days. That's the gen that sold me on Xbox and made me a fan ever since!
I love that idea and I really like the idea of using different themes like you mention here.
Yeah, I love it. It's similar to what knightmawk mentioned and I could see it being a hit among fans if handled right. The question is, what developer should MS use to make this?
Microsoft and Sega already had an small little partnership in the 90s, as Windows was part of the Dreamcast OS. Why they made Xbox exclusives I'm not too sure. I originally thought it was a partnership but can't find anything to back it up. Although Sega did want the Xbox to be backwards compatible with Dreamcast games.
My theory is that those discussions, plus the architecture of Xbox being similar to PCs with x86, lead to development being easier for Dreamcast ports like Shenmue, and games originally being created for the Dreamcast. Similar to how some of the Star Wars games were exclusives because the other consoles couldn't handle them, at least not without major revamps.
Ninja Gaiden was exclusive because Itagaki was impressed with the hardware of the Xbox, and it's dev kits.
Unfortunately Sega hasn't been the same since being bought by Sammy, and Tecmo after merging with Koei.
Seems like something Rare themselves should do. It'd fit Craig Duncan's views of not reviving an IP unless they had something new they could do with it. Maybe Playful, although it might be too ambitious for a smaller studio.
You think ninja gaiden on Master ninja is easier than dark souls?
uh not sure about that one
ZhugeEX said he knows that one studio gonna reveal their game, that doesn't mean he's sure only one game gonna be announced.
Didn't Phil said in the last podcast he plays the last game of Rare? As for E3, they're still building the conference and talking about how much far project they're gonna show.
Didn't Phil said in the last podcast he plays the last game of Rare? As for E3, they're still building the conference and talking about how much far project they're gonna show.
There's also MSGP. I wonder what they've been doing since most of their games have now shipped (and Crackdown 3 is a few weeks away).
Perhaps they'll be the ones most represented at launch of the next Xbox and will go quiet for the rest of Gen 8.
To me they are the biggest wildcard, and have the most potential to deliver a sequel to a beloved Xbox franchise while the other studios work on new IPs and the big 3.
I don't think they're talking about difficulty, but stuff like art design, story, lore etc. As awesome as NG is, it's silly as fuck.
9MS SHOULDNT invest into Japanese studios (at least not in the near future)
Get their Western third party to snuff first, take back territories like the US and UK, make Sony's lead somwhat smaller in Continental Europe, THEN consider Japan, after all of that. It should be like their lowest priority. Tales of Vesperia just came out to 8% split for Xbox in UK. even though the original was exclusive to Xbox.
People are talking about what THEY want, not what would be the best for the xbox division.
Get their Western third party to snuff first, take back territories like the US and UK, make Sony's lead somwhat smaller in Continental Europe, THEN consider Japan, after all of that. It should be like their lowest priority. Tales of Vesperia just came out to 8% split for Xbox in UK. even though the original was exclusive to Xbox.
People are talking about what THEY want, not what would be the best for the xbox division.
This logic is faulty and part of why MS has no foothold in those markets.
The reason the percentages are that low for a game like Vesperia isn't due to disinterest by gamers on the XB1, it's that gamers are multiple platform holders who now use their PS4/Switch and PC as the go-to platforms for RPG's after avoiding MS due to the original rollout all those years ago and that's in keeping in mind that Japanese based platforms like the PS4 and Switch are used by most gamers as the default for Japanese games to begin with.
You don't strengthen your weakness by avoiding it until another time and MS can't afford to continue avoiding Japanese developers for exclusives or at least marketing deals anymore. It's just unwise.
I wonder too if they'll ever be "super strong in the west" (aside of USA & UK) without a better japanese games support
I agree they probably need to. But I'm telling you they won't.
At most, Microsoft will either moneyhat or "partner" with a studio on something a la Sunset Overdrive/Ryse/Dead Rising 3/Titanfall etc.
Exactly. Their position wouldn't nearly been as bad as now if they continued support. It takes time to build, and they pulled out too early. It's something they should have kept pumping money into as a long term investment. All waiting will do is make the situation worse and because they delayed the long term investment, it will make it even longer for the investment to show fruition. I'm sure xCloud support will help immensely with the investment.
Also, Tales of Vesperia was in the 20's for digital sales (US). I'm sure it didn't sell as much as it did on the Switch or PS4 (I know many that switched to PS4 because of no X support or just because of the FPS), but I'm sure it did fine. On the physical sales side, I really have to wonder if a lot of issues come down to how many Japanese Publishers seem to supply stores with many times less Xbox One versions over PS4 versions. One member mentioned how his store got 24 copies of RE2 for the PS4, but only 3 for the Xbox One.
I know but as big rpg fan i'm more hyped for the next Playground game aka Fable ;))
I still think this forum is overstating the effect of Japanese games on the overall perception or impact of the brand. I believe past Xbox bosses' reflections that they spent too much time trying to win over Japan when they should have been focusing on their strengths remains very applicable. Sure, quintessentially Japanese games are starting to really gain footholds in the West. But.. that doesn't mean the average Japanese game/dev ever makes much of a splash. (I also notice the focus of my Japan-focused pessimism keeps shifting, because I deep down still really want MS to go big in Japan/Asia. Anyway.)
Investment in Japan has to be targeted. That could be targeting a specific portfolio of games from known developers to make exclusive to Xbox. Or, it could be making a larger acquisition of an established group that can handle overall management and infrastructure and strategy for the region. But, I honestly don't see why either of these strategies should be a priority, though.
I'd much rather they spend the money (business, marketing, AND dev support - since most Japanese devs don't regularly work on Xbox) on bringing over franchises that traditionally skip Xbox. Not to steal them from Sony or Nintendo, but just to show that there is a legitimate business case to work with and release on Xbox. If and only if that is established will Japan come willingly. And fortunately for everyone, you don't have to spend a ton of money on owning the dev or buying the exclusives in order to prove that. Target several smaller games at a variety of devs, work closely with them, market the games heavily with game pass, and tout that success.
Investment in Japan has to be targeted. That could be targeting a specific portfolio of games from known developers to make exclusive to Xbox. Or, it could be making a larger acquisition of an established group that can handle overall management and infrastructure and strategy for the region. But, I honestly don't see why either of these strategies should be a priority, though.
I'd much rather they spend the money (business, marketing, AND dev support - since most Japanese devs don't regularly work on Xbox) on bringing over franchises that traditionally skip Xbox. Not to steal them from Sony or Nintendo, but just to show that there is a legitimate business case to work with and release on Xbox. If and only if that is established will Japan come willingly. And fortunately for everyone, you don't have to spend a ton of money on owning the dev or buying the exclusives in order to prove that. Target several smaller games at a variety of devs, work closely with them, market the games heavily with game pass, and tout that success.
Stranger things have happened so we never know but if they ever truly want to compete with Sony, they can't keep giving up ground on Japanese titles as they have more or less become an exclusive second party arm of the Playstation.
If they couldn't invest in a studio to make their first party titles I'd be fine with them partnering up with them to make whatever game exclusive provided it's a day one release for XGP as well but Phil has said he dislikes moneyhatting so that likely wont happen any time soon.
Agreed. I definitely believe xCloud will help tremendously in a lot of countries for MS, Japan being one based on them being big on mobile but that then goes back to MS needing games that appeal to that base, which most assuredly includes RPG's and Japanese created games.
Crackdown 3 is being sent out to die.
Hopefully Staten picks a better project to work on next.
Let my man work the folks at Yager to reboot Crimson Skies.
Or write a Halo RPG.
Or work on a new IP altogether.
Hopefully Staten picks a better project to work on next.
Let my man work the folks at Yager to reboot Crimson Skies.
Or write a Halo RPG.
Or work on a new IP altogether.
They problaly have no confidence on the game, cant really blame them since the community doesn't have it eitheir.
Crackdown 3 is going to be that one game everyone tries out when they've blown through the rest of GP. It'll find some resurgence in June or July during a slow month.
It is, but at the same time we've had a lot of news this past week and upcoming that could have overshadowed it. RE2, KH3, Anthem beta.
What's the real difference between advertising a well known game a month before launch, and a few weeks?
I'm sure it'll do fine. It's the closest thing I have to a Mercenaries 3. Not too many "blow crap up and have fun" games nowadays.
I don't think the game shows very well in video anyway. Crackdown is going to live and die by word of mouth and people booting it up of their friends list. That only works if it's a good experience but it might be.
I really hope they announce some kind of Demo/Beta/Stress test on the next Inside Xbox - these online games are hard
Yup, it's in my opinion a perception problem (though that doesn't mean it's not important as how a platform is perceived can sway a prospective buyer's decision) in that the lack of games that release on other platforms (Nioh, Ni No Kuni 2, Yakuza, Dragon Quest, Ys...) makes Xbox's game catalogue seem incomplete. As if choosing an Xbox will only allow you to access half the potential games you could enjoy with another system. Don't care if you end up buying all, 1 or none of 'em. The problem is not having the option
Looking at Anthem it might be a better idea just to concentrate on launch and deliver a great experience when it matters. I get your point though.
I agree with pretty much everything you are saying here. Money could be better spent simply making sure there is game-parity in the Asian market instead of building up an entire hub there. That would be the most expensive 'dev hub' they could make because there isn't even a single studio there now to start a base and the historical problem the brand has there. I would agree that they need to invest in game-parity and fostering relationships but they should be buying studios elsewhere.
Did he pick it or was he parachuted in to try and save the campaign? He's become this figurehead of sorts for it, but he didn't become involved until 2017, when the game was still slated to ship later that year.
True words. OG Xbox and games like NG is still the reason why I jumped on the Xbox brand. I know MS can truly do something special if they think the same way they used to do.
As for the relationship with Itagaki, one of head guys of Xbox back then (I think it was J. Allard or Seamus) was close friends with him. I believe he even had a home in Japan. Many constant flights to Japan ensure great Japanese support for the Xbox.
That is what Spencer is trying to recreate now.
Hell no. Master is ridiculous lol.
lmao, you should play NG again. The basic fucking spider ninja mobs will wreck you. Nothing in Souls even comes close.
Come on man!! Don't say that. You think it will seriously bomb?
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