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vixolus

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The vibe I get as well. They also talk a lot about Redfall and said really generic things that has all been confirmed or heavily implied. Also I'm not a dev but I'm not sure how much a character artist is going to be QAing multiple games at BGS?
Could be playtests across zenimax like Blizzard does with Diablo
 

gabegabe

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Gotta say I find it an amusing coincidence that Hevy decided to come into this thread and share that Starfield will have flyable ships just after the sound designer heavily alluded to it yesterday. Everything else Hevy said are generalized stuff, nothing concrete, as always. And he once again refuses to answer more specific questions, stuff that's harder to guess.

Want to see another coincidence?

His name here is Hevy. 4 letters.

Who else has a 4 letter name?

Todd.
 
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pretty amusing that would be so defensive over these starfield leaks when you all are constantly taking that twitter fanfic thing seriously lol

The vibe I get as well. They also talk a lot about Redfall and said really generic things that has all been confirmed or heavily implied. Also I'm not a dev but I'm not sure how much a character artist is going to be QAing multiple games at BGS?

pretty sure they do playtests across the company, especially considering how much these devs seem to help each other (arkane working with machines games, tango working on doom, etc)
 
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Gotta say I find it an amusing coincidence that Hevy decided to come into this thread and share that Starfield will have flyable ships just after the sound designer heavily alluded to it yesterday. Everything else Hevy said are generalized stuff, nothing concrete, as always. And he once again refuses to answer more specific questions, stuff that's harder to guess.

hey! we are finally on the same page about something! LETS GO!
 

Tyche-42

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ESO doesnt have generic MMO combat given its a pure action based combat system, I am also in the minority, but outside of shooting, Destiny does not get much of anything else right combat wise.
true but its still very much skill based, even if you can use normal attacks. Yeah I also dont mean anything but the combat, customization, and general presentation of destiny. The grind in that game and the way theyve handled pretty much everything else is not something Id want them to emulate.
 
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pretty amusing that would be so defensive over these starfield leaks when you all are constantly taking that twitter fanfic thing seriously lol

I would just think prior employees would be smarter than leaking game info on a public forum that has their personal info tied to their account. There is a reason leakers tend to go to "3rd parties" given the potential increase in anonymity. Twitter leaks tend to come from said third parties, not the source directly.

They both can be equally true just like they both can be equally hot air
 

Tyche-42

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I always felt like starfield should have 3 ways of travel.
Player controlled
Fast travel
And ai controlled so you can walk through your ship while it flies to the destination
Thats probably what they meant when they said vasco will help fly the ship.

The way I imagine it working is that the game world is split into 2 chunks, planets and space. Space will be open but you wont be able to fly around the planets or land freely but instead when approaching a planet will choose from available landing zones. First time visiting a planet youll only have 1 landing site available at that planets main hub and will have to explore on foot/ground vehicle. When you discover a new location youll unlock it as a landing site for fast travel later. This way they keep their games exploration intact while still including the ship.
 

Ales34

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hey! we are finally on the same page about something! LETS GO!
Lol for sure.

I don't believe a word that person says. Not because I don't like what he's saying: he's basically saying good stuff, that the game looks good and the systems are coming online, and that it's already a good looking game at this stage with an overabundance of content; his opinion about flying is subjective, as he admits himself.

But it sets off my bullshit radar that he claims not to care about NDA when he reveals flyable ships and yet refuses answering direct questions the answers to which are harder to guess.

Hevy, tell us how many planets there are in Starfield, and I'll believe everything you say.
 
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I would just think prior employees would be smarter than leaking game info on a public forum that has their personal info tied to their account. There is a reason leakers tend to go to "3rd parties" given the potential increase in anonymity. Twitter leaks tend to come from said third parties, not the source directly.

They both can be equally true just like they both can be equally hot air

some people don't care that much. There are a lot of devs that talk about NDA'd stuff or just internal politics that most people avoid. It happens, certainly far more plausible than Fallout remasters from InXile or much of what was being discussed here of Zenimax from those tweets. It would not be the first, and certainly not the last time that someone leaked NDA'd stuff.

Yes, a developer is just going to break all their NDAs as soon as they quit a company. If it's all true, great but it seems questionable.

Most of what he talked was general things about Starfield, there's nothing that absurd in there. I'm not saying you should believe it, just weird this pushback considering how much weirder shit is taken as a fact here and discussed a ton.
 
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Thats probably what they meant when they said vasco will help fly the ship.

The way I imagine it working is that the game world is split into 2 chunks, planets and space. Space will be open but you wont be able to fly around the planets or land freely but instead when approaching a planet will choose from available landing zones. First time visiting a planet youll only have 1 landing site available at that planets main hub and will have to explore on foot/ground vehicle. When you discover a new location youll unlock it as a landing site for fast travel later. This way they keep their games exploration intact while still including the ship.

Ya, if they have it, this design makes the most sense. Don't expect no man sky when it comes to planet interaction. Lot of stuff is held back to get that system to work.
 

Bradbatross

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pretty amusing that would be so defensive over these starfield leaks when you all are constantly taking that twitter fanfic thing seriously lol
Yea, people are trying really hard to push them away and get them to stop talking. Let them talk and if it turns out to be bullshit then you can dunk on them. We're only like a month away from finding out at this point.
 
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some people don't care that much. There are a lot of devs that talk about NDA'd stuff or just internal politics that most people avoid. It happens, certainly far more plausible than Fallout remasters from InXile or much of what was being discussed here of Zenimax from those tweets

Im am semi hoping its true purely cause how little weight you give it. It be super funny to me even if it doesn't matter in the long run lol

Anyway, that is also true. My view though, if your gonna say something, say more then say nothing statements. If your gonna risk an NDA breach, provide meat, not the bone.
 

AImalexia

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I mean I believe him, would be pretty weird to lie about something that's going to be debunked in a month lol
 

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It was cool solid place to work, very secure. The engine is a piece of crap tho. Todd is a charismatic guy for sure. Starfield is looking good, weekly Thursday playtest since the beginning of the year, more and more stuff coming online. Shooting feels alright, flying is terrible atm imo just not fun to me. Lighting and stuff is looking better and better, tho it's not on the level of HFW or anything like that but still a good looking game. In terms of if it will ship on time, well they will try that's for sure, they'll cut what they did to etc, they have an overabundance of content, probably too much, so that's not the issue, finding the fun and of course bug fixing is the big thing. It's a sexy date tho and you only get one of those, beta is this summer, that's when the picture will truly become clear.
many locations like the concept arts implies with big cities etc?
 

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Most of what he talked was general things about Starfield, there's nothing that absurd in there. I'm not saying you should believe it, just weird this pushback considering how much weirder shit is taken as a fact here and discussed a ton.
People just spent the past day shitting on Skullzi's leak in here despite multiple people saying they can confirm a lot of it.
 

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Ales34

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I mean I believe him, would be pretty weird to lie about something that's going to be debunked in a month lol
Except he isn't saying anything specific? What exactly would be debunked in a month? If the game looks spectacular, better than just "good", Hevy can say they must have improved it. If the flying is great, he'll say that he told us that it was a subjective opinion or that BGS might have improved it. He isn't saying anything that can be debunked in a month, and he refuses to say anything not vague. That's my issue.
 
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Enough of this starfield talk, where's my Quake reboot info at ?

Im just sitting here waiting for the world to erupt in anger when the Quake reboot has a female lead. I mean, they almost did it for Doom (female Doom Slayer would have been awesome). I can see them taking that idea and applying it to Quake and I am all for it.

Though, I also want the reboot to be a reboot of Quake 4. Give me that strogg conflict and updated stroggification scene.
 

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Im just sitting here waiting for the world to erupt in anger when the Quake reboot has a female lead. I mean, they almost did it for Doom (female Doom Slayer would have been awesome). I can see them taking that idea and applying it to Quake and I am all for it.

Though, I also want the reboot to be a reboot of Quake 4. Give me that strogg conflict and updated stroggification scene.
Female lead? Did they say they're giving Nyx her own game?
 

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Seeing that's a next-gen exclusive, shouldn't it looks better than what's essentially a really good looking cross-gen game?
Nope. Next gen exclusive could just be because it requires a much more powerful CPU for simulations, something Horizon is really light on. Or even just that it was forced to be a next gen exclusive for marketing reasons.

Now I don't believe what this person is saying but I wouldn't be surprised if the lighting isn't as good as HFW.
 

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Seeing that's a next-gen exclusive, shouldn't it looks better than what's essentially a really good looking cross-gen game?
I mean not necessarily - they're games striving to do different things. Starfield, for example, will likely have systems and physics that a game like H:FW doesn't even attempt to emulate - that could make achieving parity in lighting quite difficult (I don't know the details, as I am not tech savy in that way - but BGS games feel like they'd be CPU heavy, and that might constrain them in ways that H:FW or Fable wouldn't be)
 

Jiraiya

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Unless they scrapped what was seen in the trailer...what's the freak out about when it comes to fidelity.
 

Bradbatross

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It's obviously going to be a good looking game (we've already seen glimpses of it), but I think in size and scope it's going to be far above any other games it's getting compared to.
 

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I bought a PS5 for Deathloop because I couldn't wait a whole year to play the next game from my favourite studio.
But that console would have gone to someone else with or without the moneyhat. It didn't gain them an extra console sale.

The argument that it might have helped with the online narrative last year when Xbox was putting out games and Playstation was not might be somewhat true but even then, people in the know already knew that the game that was a Playstation exclusive was an Xbox property. So, in hindsight, the two Bethesda moneyhats helped Sony minimally because of how bad supply issues are. I think they assumed they would be fighting for potential customers within the one-year exclusivity of each game but that won't be the case. All of the consoles will be sold immediately regardless of these games.

I wonder if we won't see the same type of strategy next gen. I would imagine the Square Enix moneyhats coming up will get to a point where they are selling Playstations that are on the open market at retail prices and that they will be taking away a possible Xbox consumer. But I don't know about exclusivity deals for third party games within the launch window. Seems like money that could have been spent better elsewhere imo.
 

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Seeing that's a next-gen exclusive, shouldn't it looks better than what's essentially a really good looking cross-gen game?
The scope and scale of Starfield may be orders of magnitude larger than HFW for all we know, so it's not really a fair comparison. Also, even if the scale is similar, Starfield will have far more in-depth role-playing features and systems, thousands more lines of dialogue and storylines which can vary wildly based on player choice.

Like I said, not a fair comparison.
 

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It definitely sounds like Sony planned on burying Xbox at the start of this gen. Thankfully that didn't work out.
Dunno about burying, but Ryan literally said at the start of the generation their goal is to get more market share. As I recall he talked about over 50% for PS5. That's a lot considering Nintendo and Xbox would share the rest.

I want them all to do well and I am glad as a consumer that Ryan isn't getting his way as it seems. A even more dominant market leader is the last thing the industry needs, wether that's Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft.
 

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But that console would have gone to someone else with or without the moneyhat. It didn't gain them an extra console sale.

The argument that it might have helped with the online narrative last year when Xbox was putting out games and Playstation was not might be somewhat true but even then, people in the know already knew that the game that was a Playstation exclusive was an Xbox property. So, in hindsight, the two Bethesda moneyhats helped Sony minimally because of how bad supply issues are. I think they assumed they would be fighting for potential customers within the one-year exclusivity of each game but that won't be the case. All of the consoles will be sold immediately regardless of these games.

I wonder if we won't see the same type of strategy next gen. I would imagine the Square Enix moneyhats coming up will get to a point where they are selling Playstations that are on the open market at retail prices and that they will be taking away a possible Xbox consumer. But I don't know about exclusivity deals for third party games within the launch window. Seems like money that could have been spent better elsewhere imo.
You're not wrong in what you're saying. I'm just saying that I, personally, would not have bought a PS5 when I did if Deathloop hadn't been timed exclusive.
 

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It was cool solid place to work, very secure. The engine is a piece of crap tho. Todd is a charismatic guy for sure. Starfield is looking good, weekly Thursday playtest since the beginning of the year, more and more stuff coming online. Shooting feels alright, flying is terrible atm imo just not fun to me. Lighting and stuff is looking better and better, tho it's not on the level of HFW or anything like that but still a good looking game. In terms of if it will ship on time, well they will try that's for sure, they'll cut what they did to etc, they have an overabundance of content, probably too much, so that's not the issue, finding the fun and of course bug fixing is the big thing. It's a sexy date tho and you only get one of those, beta is this summer, that's when the picture will truly become clear.
How would you compare the core gameplay of Starfield to something like Fallout or Outer Worlds? Do you like it better?
 

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There are so many red flags about that post being bullshit, yet, you guys are so desperate for new details that you are eating it up.
 

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Don't know, i don't like any of those games...that's why i'm interested in your guys and gals opinions...i have mine but i'm not the target for these types of games.
Interesting, I liked Outer Worlds but didn't love it, and never got into the Fallout games. And it seems like the formula isn't being switched up very significantly. I do now wonder if i'd even like it.

Good thing it's on GP.
 

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It was cool solid place to work, very secure. The engine is a piece of crap tho. Todd is a charismatic guy for sure. Starfield is looking good, weekly Thursday playtest since the beginning of the year, more and more stuff coming online. Shooting feels alright, flying is terrible atm imo just not fun to me. Lighting and stuff is looking better and better, tho it's not on the level of HFW or anything like that but still a good looking game. In terms of if it will ship on time, well they will try that's for sure, they'll cut what they did to etc, they have an overabundance of content, probably too much, so that's not the issue, finding the fun and of course bug fixing is the big thing. It's a sexy date tho and you only get one of those, beta is this summer, that's when the picture will truly become clear.
What game is the flying most comparable to? Are we talking like No man's sky or something more tighter like Star wars Squadrons for example.
 

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I just wanna see some damn gamesssssssssss already fuck

PD, Everwild, Avowed, Project Dragon, Inexile's project, etc etc etc
 
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