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It does sound like this is actually coming sooner than later, but I'll be disappointed if they don't fully replace the default AA battery controller. This should be coming with every Xbox out of the box.
I really need an Elite Series 3. I'm too used to back paddles to buy a new controller without them.
Blade and how the reveal was handled.
Also new Singularity and Prototype please. Rocksteady and Insomniac Games showed that how super hero games can be done well. I am sure a talented studio under Xbox can do a new Prototype. Also Singularity and Prey sequels would make sci-fi fans like me feast.
Sure, but you said "set it apart" implying features that justify the (in your expectation) an increased pricetag over the DualSense. The controller costs as much as it does currently with some styles going to $70+ because the margins on controllers are huge and they want to keep it that way. A controller with some extra parts internally will still have a huge margin. I don't see a world where Xbox sells a $80 controller while PS will have a more compelling feature set to most consumers for $70. A middle-of-the-road type premium controller would probably be Elite Series 2 Core tier of about $100ish, vs an Elite Series 3 around $200 like it is now or the DualSense Edge.I mean you're talking about the features not mattering to consumers, not the cost of the features. A feature not mattering because cloud gaming is niche doesn't change the cost of adding a WiFi chip onboard and engineering a seamless way to switch between BT, WiFi, PC, Xbox, and cloud. The Lift to Wake with the accelerometer would require a very low power state that can read the accelerometer and turn on the console would likely increase cost more than just included a basic accelerometer onto the controller. The battery might not be internal but the slides did mention it'll come with batteries. Right now the Xbox Core controller is $60, with some different styles coming in at $70+ and that doesn't have a battery, haptics, accelerometer, WiFi chip, and very likely lower quality materials.
lol just seeing that now as well. all that typing for NOTHING!!!!vixolus for what it's worth, the leaked documents did say the controller would be $70. I just figured with the WiFi chip and everything, it'd be more expensive than the DS. Stadia controller was also $70 IG.
Was this in those leaked documents? (and were those legit?) I'm happy to know how Xbox controller would wear pants though.
Yeah, the leaks were legit. They were never working on a handheld though, that product pyramid was showing what they could and couldn't realistically produce atmWas this in those leaked documents? (and were those legit?) I'm happy to know how Xbox controller would wear pants though.
I was far more curious about Xbox making what appeared to be a handheld system. I mean I get it but i can't people picking it up over something like the Deck or just using their own cloud gaming setup?
Maybe i don't understand though.
This slide is from a leaked internal presentation. They came straight from Microsoft, it was submitted as evidence during the FTC case and Microsoft accidentally gave them an unredacted version.Was this in those leaked documents? (and were those legit?) I'm happy to know how Xbox controller would wear pants though.
I was far more curious about Xbox making what appeared to be a handheld system. I mean I get it but i can't people picking it up over something like the Deck or just using their own cloud gaming setup?
Maybe i don't understand though.
first post, best post
- On renegotiating the Indiana Jones game's terms at the request of Microsoft to make it Xbox/PC exclusive, after Microsoft bought its development studio: With "Xbox still being one of the bigger marketplaces for games, we didn't feel like we were going to be overly exclusionary. We felt like it's still going to reach a broad set of folks, and we felt, financially and strategically for the game, that made sense at the time."
"that made sense at the time" about to have a 100 page thread.
To me it reads like "at the time" is directly referencing the renegotiation, but it can unfortunately be read as if making a statement on how that might have changed since so you are right about the length of the thread."that made sense at the time" about to have a 100 page thread.
yup LMAO"that made sense at the time" about to have a 100 page thread.
Same. I don't want to buy an Elite Series 2 knowing it won't match the rest of my Xbox controllers. My brain just wont let me.I really need an Elite Series 3. I'm too used to back paddles to buy a new controller without them.
You just have the decide if they are publicly insulting the partner working on their game. If you assume they aren't publicly insulting their working partner they are then clearly referencing the renegotiation.To me it reads like "at the time" is directly referencing the renegotiation, but it can unfortunately be read as if making a statement on how that might have changed since so you are right about the length of the thread.
"Why would Blade be Xbox exclusive if Disney seems unsure about the deal they did for Indy"yup LMAO
"Microsoft assured us they were gonna sell gangbusters of consoles back in 2021"
People are just preempting the narrative, so they can point and laugh at those concerned citizens.come on people. It's pretty clear what it says. Don't do this to yourself
So the Developer_Direct was announced on Jan 11th and aired on Jan 25th.
Assuming they're planning another one, mainly because the one this year seemed very well received, hopefully we get roughly the same timeline, though I wouldn't mind an announce and air window that's either the same week or within a week of the announcement.
I think it's pretty obvious they were talking about the negotiations..To me it reads like "at the time" is directly referencing the renegotiation, but it can unfortunately be read as if making a statement on how that might have changed since so you are right about the length of the thread.
Yeah, I totally agree. I'm just saying it can be read differently and so the thread will inevitably be shit.I think it's pretty obvious they were talking about the negotiations..
I think Feb this year. I would love January, but they really went big in December so I feel like they probably think Xbox fans are satiated enough for a few months before they pump us back up.So the Developer_Direct was announced on Jan 11th and aired on Jan 25th.
Assuming they're planning another one, mainly because the one this year seemed very well received, hopefully we get roughly the same timeline, though I wouldn't mind an announce and air window that's either the same week or within a week of the announcement.
True that's how these threads usually end upYeah, I totally agree. I'm just saying it can be read differently and so the thread will inevitably be shit.
I've said it before, but my gut tells me the next one will a bit later in the year.
I think it really depends on what they have planned for release in first half of the year. If it's empty because most of the projects are second half of the year, I suppose you could do it in like March/April or something for games that aren't going to get a lot of air time at the Summer Showcase.Yeah, I totally agree. I'm just saying it can be read differently and so the thread will inevitably be shit.
I think Feb this year. I would love January, but they really went big in December so I feel like they probably think Xbox fans are satiated enough for a few months before they pump us back up.
I mostly game on PC and i can't wait for this. DualSense isn't great on PC wireless, it's nowhere near as reliable as the Xbox wireless controller via official dongle which just works "out the box" flawlessly with every game, and the haptics don't work wireless on DS anyway.i honestly dont think those features really matter as cloud gaming is still giga niche, battery life depends on the batteries inside which likely won't be internal anyway (xbox controllers already have good battery life so that isn't "more" differentiating), and life to wake is kinda whatever beyond the first 2 seconds you pick it up. It just sounds like using an accelerometer.
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As I previously said it's Microsoft/Bethesda choosing to keep quiet on the exclusivity situation of Blade like Indiana Jones
So the Developer_Direct was announced on Jan 11th and aired on Jan 25th.
Assuming they're planning another one, mainly because the one this year seemed very well received, hopefully we get roughly the same timeline, though I wouldn't mind an announce and air window that's either the same week or within a week of the announcement.
April is getting too close to E3 for comfort. I think March is even too close if we are talking about the end. Maybe announce in Feb and it might end up being beginning of March.I think it really depends on what they have planned for release in first half of the year. If it's empty because most of the projects are second half of the year, I suppose you could do it in like March/April or something for games that aren't going to get a lot of air time at the Summer Showcase.
Sure, but you said "set it apart" implying features that justify the (in your expectation) an increased pricetag over the DualSense. The controller costs as much as it does currently with some styles going to $70+ because the margins on controllers are huge and they want to keep it that way. A controller with some extra parts internally will still have a huge margin. I don't see a world where Xbox sells a $80 controller while PS will have a more compelling feature set to most consumers for $70. A middle-of-the-road type premium controller would probably be Elite Series 2 Core tier of about $100ish, vs an Elite Series 3 around $200 like it is now or the DualSense Edge.
The internal docs also called Sebille the "Core Controller" so it would be a direct replacement, probably with just a small bump to $70 in line with the competition/inflation/whatever.
And it remains to seen if the controller ended up being fully featured/funded in the end.
lol just seeing that now as well. all that typing for NOTHING!!!!
no idea. some sort of embedded screen controller i thinkWait if Actium is Elite 3 wtf is "Luxury Controller - Zarasai"??
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(Xbox Release) World's Edge
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Blackbird Interactive April 18, 2023 70 Redfall Arkane Studios Austin
Roundhouse Studios May 2, 2023 57 Quake II Nightdive Studios
id Software
Machine Games August 10, 2023
90 Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition
(Xbox Release) Relic Entertainment
World's Edge August 22, 2023 83 Starfield Bethesda Game Studios September 6, 2023 85 Forza Motorsport Turn 10 Studios October 10, 2023 85 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III Sledgehammer Games November 10, 2023 59
The moment when you have to decide whether to buy a new console or a controller for the same priceWait if Actium is Elite 3 wtf is "Luxury Controller - Zarasai"??
Obligatory first page Banjo-Kazooie new game request. It's what the people want!
Maybe 2024 will be the year!