On the bright side, Rich Swann and his wife have mended their fences, and it's looking less likely that he'll be charged with any crime.
I mean, if he's not guilty, WWE...
I mean, if he's not guilty, WWE...
Seriously underrated post.
On the bright side, Rich Swann and his wife have mended their fences, and it's looking less likely that he'll be charged with any crime.
I mean, if he's not guilty, WWE...
When people are living a majority of their lives online, it doesn't take much effort to click a couple things to find out more.There's this weird obsession with proof online. I mean, I understand it: false accusations of anything is no bueno, but to play armchair detective and try to read tweets to find proof of a rape is ridiculous.
I tried a bit but couldn't find anything. Google seems to think I'm looking for a career in detective work.
It must be something in WWE's contracts then. If I was under investigation for a non-work related crime I wouldn't think it was any of my employer's business, but the nature of being a WWE superstar I could see that not being the case with them.
At any rate, I hope losing his job isn't the worst thing to come to Enzo for this. What a fucking trashcan.
There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaF7XQzUrw&feature=youtu.beShe said she was in a mental institution for 45 days but the biggest gap of time she was away from twitter was like 22 days. I'm not saying this didn't happen but you cannot use the internet while in a mental institution. I think there is a lot more to this story than what is being said....
What are you saying here?Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
lolSomeone should Google this while they're at work and find out.
There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaF7XQzUrw&feature=youtu.be
I just found out about this story and while reading through the reddit thread on wwe, i stumbled across this video. I don't know Enzo, I don't know the lady but based on Enzo's actions, it really looks sketchy. Usually, people who are innocent are adamant and quick to proclaim their innocence. He has not done that but then again, there's this video which I'm sure Enzo's defense attorney will no doubt attempt to use so yea.....
Neville. Not Enzo I am assuming
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at? I don't particularly watch the wwe( i see highlights once in a while on youtube) or attend any shows. The rest of us have no access to any public information and some of us prefer not to jump to conclusions. The justice system will sort it out. If you want to join the lynch mob prior to a verdict, go right ahead but I'll wait. Also, i doubt that he would be worth the trouble to keep?Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
He was likely released as a result of not divulging the allegations to WWE last year, not because of possible movement in the case.Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
I'm not sure why you felt the need to quote me? Read my post again, do you see me defend the accused? I just said, here's what I've read and noticed and left it at that. I'm not exactly sure why people are going on random tangents imagining things that I never wrote?This video was kind of covered before (i haven't watched it - it's none of my fucking business - but i get the gist, she's an asshole) but I just wanna reiterate that it is entirely possible for both these things be to true:
1. This women is not a stable or respectable person.
2. Enzo raped her just like she said he did.
Also, if she is as mentally unwell as she claims to be, then that is not necessarily a discredit to her claims. Predators go after that kind of person specifically a lot of the time for various reasons - they might be more easily manipulated, they might not be believed later, and so on.
Well the silver lining to both of those incidents is that at least the wwe is cutting ties with people who abuse women and not putting them on their shows
I'm not sure why you felt the need to quote me? Read my post again, do you see me defend the accused? I just said, here's what I've read and noticed and left it at that. I'm not exactly sure why people are going on random tangents imagining things that I never wrote?
It may have come off as passively defending by way of bringing up extraneous videos that have nothing to do with if she was raped or not, that may be why they quoted you.I'm not sure why you felt the need to quote me? Read my post again, do you see me defend the accused? I just said, here's what I've read and noticed and left it at that. I'm not exactly sure why people are going on random tangents imagining things that I never wrote?
Everyone knows Austin beat Debra
What do you think you're perpetuating with this
There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaF7XQzUrw&feature=youtu.be
I just found out about this story and while reading through the reddit thread on wwe, i stumbled across this video. I don't know Enzo, I don't know the lady but based on Enzo's actions, it really looks sketchy. Usually, people who are innocent are adamant and quick to proclaim their innocence. He has not done that but then again, there's this video which I'm sure Enzo's defense attorney will no doubt attempt to use so yea.....
.We do not need people playing Internet Detective when actual detectives are working on the case.
It is absolutely ok to withhold judgment on the case in the absence of more information. It is not ok to try and justify this opinion with a "both sides" argument involving the parties involved.
Austin's past is known and honestly isn't relevant to this topic
Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.What do you think you're perpetuating with this
It's all discrediting the accuser with unrelated shit. She's unstable, has mental health issues, and has lied before?
When y'all find a video where she says "just so everyone knows I'm about to lie and get Enzo fired" let us know
(I know you've already said you aren't defending Enzo, I got that. But people should stop using that video as evidence)
This.Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
You realize you're basically equating people who believe the victim of rape with being a lynch mob, right?Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
I'm sorry your fave is so problematic. But this is a really bad take on the situation, my man.Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
HaHave you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
Huh, okay i guess. Lets continue down the path of making assumptions about a person with no knowledge of the person or evidence.........I'm sorry your fave is so problematic. But this is a really bad take on the situation, my man.
"a group of people who want to attack someone who they think has committed aserious crime"You realize you're basically equating people who believe the victim of rape with being a lynch mob, right?
I see nobody in here threatening physical harm onto Enzo Amore.
This isn't a court. This isn't even wrestler's court.Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
Show me where it specifies physical? Verbal assault is a thing and there's lots of that on here. It's amazing how I'm under fire for refraining from making a decision until the justice system has made theirs. I'm sure that many on here would love to be condemned without due process.I see nobody in here threatening physical harm onto Enzo Amore
Court of public opinion =/= court of law. Also you're trying to downplay the victim's allegations by bringing up unrelated bits of information regarding the victim that have no impact on whether or not a crime was committed. Again, your take on this is bad and despite you saying you want to sit on the fence you're actually leaning more towards defending the man accused of rape.Show me where it specifies physical? Verbal assault is a thing and there's lots of that on here. It's amazing how I'm under fire for refraining on making a decision until the justice system has made theirs. I'm sure that many on here would love to be condemned without due process.
Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
Show me where it specifies physical? Verbal assault is a thing and there's lots of that on here. It's amazing how I'm under fire for refraining from making a decision until the justice system has made theirs. I'm sure that many on here would love to be condemned without due process.
This isn't a court. This isn't even wrestler's court.
You're not trying to stay in the middle lane. Your take on this situation is bad.
I'm sorry but a history of false accusations is 100% relevant to a case that is based on an accusation. The content of the video in itself is irrelevant but the title of the video is not. If the detectives can't piece together enough evidence to corroborate the victims story, that video will become a focal point of the trial. You may not think it's relevant but from a conviction perspective, it's entirely relevant.Court of public opinion =/= court of law. Also you're trying to downplay the victim's allegations by bringing up unrelated bits of information regarding the victim that have no impact on whether or not a crime was committed. Again, your take on this is bad and despite you saying you want to sit on the fence you're actually leaning more towards defending the man accused of rape.
This is so hilarious of a take. Enzo's only claim to a space in WWE was he could talk, and that wasn't even going that well after a few months
Cops are involved, way more than just a video. I would agree with you if she hadn't contacted the police the same night.Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
Austin's past is known and honestly isn't relevant to this topic
My post was towards people who keep using the video to discredit her. If that wasn't clear.Cops are involved, way more than just a video. I would agree with you if she hadn't contacted the police the same night.
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Who in this thread is giving Austin a pass for what he did?It's so known that people are willing to forget it because people liked him when they were teenagers. It's very odd to see many of the same people condemn Enzo (rightly) whilst giving their money which they know is going to widely known domestic abusers (wrongly) without a second thought, just last night.
I mean, does Austin get a pass because he's popular and cool and Enzo isn't? When does the hypocrisy stop. They can both go fuck themselves, separating the character from the person doesn't apply when you're giving your money towards the domestic abuser, and cheering him beyond belief because he pretends to beat up another dickhead.
But then, Enzo Amore is yet another scumbag in a company which has produced a LOT of scumbags over the years, a suspicious amount, mind. It makes me wonder if things have actually changed in the PG era, or if it's still the same old bullshit. WWE is a company ran by pieces of shit, for pieces of shit, and I'm fed up with people calling past incidents irrelevant when they all are very much relevant, even today. Surely, there must be a hidden culture that leads to this sort of shit?
This company gives no fucks about anything, so long as it doesn't negatively affect their precious image. After all, it's one middleman away from directly being a big Trump donor, so what do y'all expect? If anyone hates this sort of shit (again, rightly so), stop supporting this company with your money, because there's just too many damn sexual abusers, domestic abusers, racists, homophobes, and even murderers that it's given us.