At least it's something different and they're trying things. My floor for being impressed by WWE effort is super low with how they've conditioned people.
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WWE and AEW weekly ratings discussion
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At least it's something different and they're trying things. My floor for being impressed by WWE effort is super low with how they've conditioned people.
True...I liked where it started and where I thought it was headed where it'd be more cerebral and you'd have Bray playing it off like he didn't know who the fiend was and no one would talk to him or associate with him because everyone knew and he was just oblivious. Kinda like a Jekyll and Hyde type of deal or split personalities or whatever...until it slowly consumed him and he went over the edge.
NXT did 1M, down 170K from last week.
Next week will be interesting as we'll see what kind of hour 2 decline/improvement there is on what will be a loaded show, plus the impact of the first head to head show with AEW.
Interesting to note that the 18-49 demographic which was very good last week took a big tumble.
Next week will be interesting as we'll see what kind of hour 2 decline/improvement there is on what will be a loaded show, plus the impact of the first head to head show with AEW.
Interesting to note that the 18-49 demographic which was very good last week took a big tumble.
Still see NXT "winning" next week, as they have fresher and more interesting matches (IMO), but I'll be watching and cheering on AEW.
Three more months of RAW Blacked incoming. Vince really needs to get a sponsorship deal going.
Yeah, not sure how much longer they can afford to dip into their legends pool to pop 400,000 viewers. And the Brock pool too. I'm sure they'll try, though.
They're up 400,000 from last week. I would say yes, considering they're also up against MNF, these are good numbers in 2019.
Yeah MNF was a stinker this week between two 0-3 teams. That and it being the season premiere made it pop some. They won't hold at this level. Smack down is what will be interesting to see.
Exactly. Wrestling already gets pretty low numbers as is. Friday + Bad wrestling show = bad ratings.
The one thing they have going for them is the constant pub they get from Football games. Every game on Fox this year has mentioned WWE in some capacity. Not sure if there is much cross over there, but maybe theyre hoping the football bump will help them a bit.
WWE actually retained most of their viewership in their first jump to Friday back in '05, so we'll see. Plus, I imagine any viewers lost by the move to Friday will be made up for with the move from cable to broadcast TV. Here's hoping for a flop though #ThreeYears
Meltz thinks it will be the most-watched wrestling show this week "by far," so who's to say. Some people are predicting as high as 4 million. They've put the ad machine behind it, so who knows.
You know what, that is something I neglected to think of. Being on broadcast TV might actually give them a bigger bump than the football crowd will.
Time will tell. The first couple of shows might have decent numbers given how many stars they are bringing back, but give it about a month, and I bet its worse than it was on USA.
He might be right, but ill say this. I am PUMPED for tomorrow. Friday.... I think Ill skip. I feel like a lot of the hardcore crowd share that sentiment.
Maybe solely because of him....they keep going to the Hogan, Flair, Austin, etc. well and it's not paying off any more...
People get tired of that shit, even if it's guys that enjoy.
Yeah, I'll be watching a movie with my kids in my living room on Friday night. No interest in Smackdown or WWE in general after that angle last night.
Hardcores do share that sentiment, but I hope AEW realizes they can't cater solely to that crowd in order to grow. We'll see, though. Can't wait for tomorrow.
I think that actually applies more to NXT. That product seems geared entirely to the wrestling enthusiast who enjoys the indies but wants better production values. AEW is trying to get that audience too, but they seem keyed in to trying to attract a broader wrestling audience as well as a mainstream audience, even if that won't be their primary focus.
I agree that the potential for growth is higher for AEW at the moment.
Expecting 500,000+ viewers tomorrow night, and hoping for north of 750,000. I feel like 800,000+ would be great, and a million would be a dream straight out of the gate.
Smackdown did 3.869 viewers last night.
8 PM: 3.920 million viewers
9 PM: 3.818 million viewers
Average: 3.869 million viewers
Really good. Props for topping 3 million, which is what Fox expected. Let's see what happens next week. Gotta imagine they shed 300K-400K without The Rock and PPV booking next week. Curious if they'll keep going with weekly legends to pop ratings. Cena, Austin, and Sting were left in the chamber from the advertising.
AEW has a long way to go.
8 PM: 3.920 million viewers
9 PM: 3.818 million viewers
Average: 3.869 million viewers
Really good. Props for topping 3 million, which is what Fox expected. Let's see what happens next week. Gotta imagine they shed 300K-400K without The Rock and PPV booking next week. Curious if they'll keep going with weekly legends to pop ratings. Cena, Austin, and Sting were left in the chamber from the advertising.
AEW has a long way to go.
It isnt going to sustain those ratings it wont be long until those ratings hit 2 million or below.
Those 18-49 numbers are impressive but overall rating is not surprising. I honestly thought they would get a 4. But this number don't matter, we gotta see what happens months from now, if they can sustain it.
Yeah, smackdown numbers were pretty bad for the debut show with everything they advertised, though the demos were fantastic.
1.41M.
1.41M.
TV industry was projecting way over a 4.0.
3.8 isn't really impressive when you take into consideration a very aggressive Fox marketing campaign, pushing Smackdown hard online, highlighting it on all thier flagship shows, including Football, an advertised appearance by The Rock and so forth.
That's a long way to go, man. You really think they're going to shed almost 2 million viewers soon? I'm as cynical about WWE as the next guy, but that just seems unrealistic.
How many viewers do you see them shedding for next week if they don't have a Rock, Stone Cold, or Cena opening the show?
It was projected to be much higher. This is not good news.
Just like with Finn on NXT, it seemed dumb to keep something like Cain as a secret. I know for angle purposes it makes sense, but for rating it probably would have been a big bump if they had advertised a Cain appearance. Maybe that leads to a jump in ratings next week.
Given all the big names that didn't show up I wouldn't be surprised if the plan is them knowing full well the regular crop of talent on the show can't keep a 3.0 up so they'll sprinkle a few old timers every episode to keep interest going. Survivor series build is smart since it gives an excuse to have Hogan and Flair cropping up on tv regularly, though part of me thinks this might lead to another "guest host" era once they run out of regular old timers to have on the show and start resorting to cheap celebrity pops.
Honestly, I have no idea.
I'd predict the ratings would fall to about 3.1-3.3 for next week, but it really depends on how much of it was a nostalgia bump. I don't think it's utterly out of the question we see an outright collapse by next week.
Holy shit, Blue Bloods with a 7.3?! wtfffff that's crazy. I've got to be reading this wrong, right?Those 18-49 numbers are impressive but overall rating is not surprising. I honestly thought they would get a 4. But this number don't matter, we gotta see what happens months from now, if they can sustain it.
It's a very good number, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Raw 25 did 4.54M viewers last year.
Compared to that, the smackdown debut was:
- on Network TV
- Promoted very strongly by Fox in advertising and on their other shows
- was advertised with Rocky, who was not on Raw 25 (or Hogan, but WWE watered down Hogan by having him on Raw anyway)
Yet still ended up with a lower number.
In any event, the real test will be where it has settled in december.
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