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Feb 24, 2018
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For those who don't know what 8.8 means, it's the name TVTropes gives to the phenomenon centered mostly around gaming where fans go into an angry fury over review scores for high profile games, whether deemed to low or too high. The name itself stems from Gamespot's review for the Wii version of The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess where the reviewer gave the game 8.8 and in response, fans sent a barrage of hate and death threats to the reviewer and spammed gaming bored with demand for the reviewer to be fired and threats of death.

Honestly, I just don't get it, why get so worked up about reviews score that you refuse to let go years later, that you get so pissed off that you think threats, abuse and hate is deserving, no matter how much you hide it under "legitimate criticism". So someone else liked or disliked a game more or less then you, that doesn't affect you, doesn't affect your enjoyment or dislike and like has been said tons of times before, getting worked up over a metacritic score is just silly. It's not the reviewers job to be promotion for a game and be part of its marketing nor is it their job to endorse your opinion on something.

Yet this type of hate happens all of the time, like every other big AAA release you see it and these "controversies" just make the gaming community look bad.

So what for you were the worst of these that you've seen? The ones that made you cringe or sad or mad at the players upset over a score. The ones that make you sigh whenever you see someone refuse to let it go and just make you sigh?

Their are two for me that stick in my mind, the first one I really saw was Gamespot's GTAV review which they gave the game a 9/10... Which was deemed to low so the comments were exploded with a ton of death threats, hate, transphobia and personal attacks against the reviewer. It got so bad that Gamespot had to change their comment policy because of it but even then, you had petitions to get the reviewer fired, gaming forums filled with hate to the reviewer and the reviewer getting emailed threats. I was utterly disgusted and I just couldn't believe what I was seeing over a score, a 9/10 score.

The second is the IGN "Too much water" Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire remake review because honestly, it bothers me the hypocrisy on display by the Pokemon fans. I remember a ton of dislike and criticism back in the day for the Hoenn region because it had to many water routes, Route 133 especially for the rapids... Which Game Freak agreed with which is why besides the remakes, we've never seen a region with that many water routes. Same with the too many HMs criticism, funny how the same fans who harassed her for that were praising Game Freak when they removed the HMs the very next game. Oh but because she was reviewer, it was okay for fans to harass and send her hate for saying that and again, 7.8 is a good score. The fact people turned it into a meme and pretend the threats never happened is one of the things that bothers me about the Pokemon Fandom.
 

CommodoreKong

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Oct 25, 2017
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A lot of people lost their minds when Jim Sterling gave Breath of the Wild a 7.
The thread on GAF was hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.
 

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Jeff Gerstman and his TP Review... ah yes

An older case was actuall the Shenmue review on GameSpot.
They gave the game an 6.8 but changed it without any notice to an 7.8
due to massive fan backlash.
 

hwarang

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Oct 27, 2017
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To be honest, I don't even understand the point of rating a game an 8.8. What marginal difference does it make apart from 8.7?

Ex. I would say the 8.7 score from gamespot's KH II review.
 

Javier23

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Oct 28, 2017
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Like, I don't care whose fault it is or what's the actual reason in every case, but every single review thread for high profile exclusives that get less than a 90 on Metacritic end up a big old mess. The last Spiderman one may not have been the wost offender but it sure didn't escape the trend.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
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TP 8.8
BotW 7 (Though that was a really dumb 7. Poor reasoning. Too bad noone was able to discuss that because of triggered idiots.)
I think there were people going apeshit after sme Uncharted stuff as well. Thik it was Uncharted 4.
Horizon 5/10.
 

Adnor

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Oct 25, 2017
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The funniest thing about the 8.8 TP review is that Jeff has said that the only reason it got that score was because of the way GameSpot calculated reviews via scoring differents parts of the game and getting an avarage score with a weird excel system.

He would have scored it lower.
 

Emobacca

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Nov 2, 2017
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The 7.9 IGN gave Mario Kart Double Dash back in 2003 is still the OG review score blow up

Fran still gets hit with 7.9 memes to this day
 

truly101

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Oct 29, 2017
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Its weird how badly some people want their opinions validated by some third party source. I mean, I can sort of understand where a player's opinion is incredibly divergent from critical opinion, but it doesn't seem to cause the looneys to come out when it is an 8.8 scenario. In fact I think some people take solace if they really enjoy a bad game, it makes them quirky and interesting I guess. When its some perceived sacred cow thats supposed to prove that their tastes are unimpeachable, and the game doesn't hit that high mark, they go fucking apeshit.
Beyond the utilitarian purposes a review should serve, it symbolizing as some proof as a taste maker or mark of expertise is insanity.
 

Derachi

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Oct 27, 2017
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The "too much water" shit drives me up the wall because it's a legitimate criticism of the Hoenn region. Another one is when people bring up the IGN review for that Imagine Party Babiez game, because I'm pretty sure neither that game nor that review are for them. Reviews are purchasing advice. If a mom was looking for a Wii game for a small child, and wanted to know how good Party Babiez was, they could see that it gets the job done and was probably an okay game for their kid. It's not like the mom was thinking "It's this or God Hand for my 6 year old, let's see what reviewed better." Not every game, or review, is meant for the hardcore video game fan.
 

Vexed

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I still remember MK:DD getting 7.9'd, but I actually think that one went the opposite direction - felt like the internet during that era was overwhelmingly negative on Nintendo and that just became the perfect meme to lob at Nintendo fanboys.
 

Rowsdower

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Oct 27, 2017
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Uncharted 4 getting 4/10 from Washington Post pissed a lot of people off. The review thread was nuts.

Also Jim Sterling (again) giving Yooka Laylee a 2/10. The thread (back on gaf) even got a big mod warning due to people's reactions to low scores:

Mod warning: If you don't like a review, feel free to disagree with it, and explain why you do so. But stop making up conspiracy theories and deranged ulterior motives. Shit like that leads to online harassment, and it's completely unacceptable.

If you can't discuss reviews like an adult, go somewhere else.
 

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For context, Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10.

Edit: Credit to Mama Robotnik on the old site for compiling the quotes.
 

Quinton

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The Twilight Princess 8.8 outcry was one of the first moments where I really realized that some people who play video games are assholes. Some of the stuff that was said against the reviewer... yikes.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Well this shit here in some threads about Spider-Man right now is pretty embarrassing. Apparently it's dogshit and not innovative enough because of it's 88 score or whatever.

Then again maybe it's people taking the piss and the sarcasm is less detectable.

Still, zeroing in on and hating a reviewer for HAVING AN OPINION is ridiculous and childish. Devotion to a number is so asinine all around (including from publishers) that numerical scores should just be abolished for a recommend/don't recommend style system.
 
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It's pretty funny when people go full meltdown

A lot of people lost their minds when Jim Sterling gave Breath of the Wild a 7.
The thread on GAF was hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.
I was actually really bothered by that. Because several of his arguments (at least) were completely wrong. Like he was saying things about the game which were incorrect, like he didn't understand crucial mechanics. For example getting annoyed that he had to complete a shrine to unlock it as fast travel... When you don't. You just need to activate it, then you can leave. Then complaining they were a chore because he thought he had to do them the minute he found them...

But giving it a 7/10? Totally fine. Do what you want. I don't care.
 
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Uncharted 3 was the last straw for me. I now stay clear of review threads for big games so I sorta missed the BotW insanity. Octopath Traveler vs Press Sneak Fuck was also really stupid.
 

Mistouze

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Oct 26, 2017
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It was not a "big" contriversy but some of the reactions to Polygon's Bayonetta 2 review were pretty dumb.

Oh god they gave the game a 7.5 and even justified why they did so !
 

ghostcrew

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Oct 27, 2017
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Some people still haven't got over Polygon's 7/10 The Last of Us score.

I say people. Babies mostly.
 

ak1287

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Oct 28, 2017
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Well this shit here in some threads about Spider-Man right now is pretty embarrassing. Apparently it's dogshit and not innovative enough brcause of it's 88 score or whatever.

Then again maybe it's people taking the piss and the sarcasm is less detectable.

Still, zeroing in on and hating a reviewer for HAVING AN OPINION is ridiculous.
This being Era, I don't think I'm inclined to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, same as with GAF.
 

Ocarina_117

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Oct 26, 2017
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Regarding Jim's 7/10

He knew what he was doing there, not in regards to the score, but his tweets leading up to it.

It was wild, too.
 

mas8705

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Oct 27, 2017
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It might not have been an 8.8 per ce, but the Kane and Lynch 2 controversy and a guy losing his job due to giving it a 6.0 comes to mind. There may have been other factors to the dismissal or the sudden departure, but at the time, that one kind of blew up quite a bit.
 

Don Fluffles

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Oct 28, 2017
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Their are two for me that stick in my mind, the first one I really saw was Gamespot's GTAV review which they gave the game a 9/10... Which was deemed to low so the comments were exploded with a ton of death threats, hate, transphobia and personal attacks against the reviewer. It got so bad that Gamespot had to change their comment policy because of it but even then, you had petitions to get the reviewer fired, gaming forums filled with hate to the reviewer and the reviewer getting emailed threats. I was utterly disgusted and I just couldn't believe what I was seeing over a score, a 9/10 score.

If that isn't gamers getting triggered and wanting to censor opinions, I don't know what it is.
 

The Unsent

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did remember reading on some old forum, can't remember what's it called, where people complained about Uncharted 3 getting a great 8/10 and "it's a flaw against someone's character if they don't like Naughty Dog games" or some smug shite like that. People are so up their own arses who believe some games have to be 'objectively' enjoyed.
 

Duffking

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Oct 27, 2017
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The too much water pokemon review, basically people shouting at IGN for saying the same things they'd been saying about Ruby/Sapphire for years but that it's suddenly not OK to say it because they're IGN. While also pretending acting like the bullet point wasn't fully justified in the review as well.

The EG 8 for UC3 was funny as well, because these days I think a lot of people would say either that was right on the money or even a little bit generous.
 

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The jim Sterling BOTW thing was bonkers. I don't even like the guy at all.

So many gamers seem to think that reviews and review scores exist to validate them and their purchasing decisions...

Edit: Wait, the "too much water" reviewer got threatened too, for an overall positive review with some fair criticisms? I'll swap to that being the worst then. Sheesh....
 
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It might not have been an 8.8 per ce, but the Kane and Lynch 2 controversy and a guy losing his job due to giving it a 6.0 comes to mind. There may have been other factors to the dismissal or the sudden departure, but at the time, that one kind of blew up quite a bit.

Gamespot never formally revealed the reason behind Jeff Gerstmann's dismissal. Jeff himself said it was combination of that and another review by someone working under him. We'll probably never get the former side's official line, but at least we got Giant Bomb out of it.