It's ironic to me that Marvel has basically followed the exact same blueprint that contributed to the crash in the 90s. The Infinity Gauntlet launched at the top of the boom in 91 and was a massive hit. It was this large interconnected storyline that was massively popular. Then what came after it was a glut of sequels, crossovers, and cameos that flooded the market with tons of subpar stories that were difficult to keep up with. Sounds familiar
Yeah this should have been the third film
I mean Marvel comics did that. It failed miserably and they walked it back.
Simple, the characters didn't appeal to women.
All that shitting on black Adam and it ended up making decent money in the end.
I'm not sure if I'll call it decent as it made 393 million on a 260 million dollar budget so it sadly was not able to double it's budget...but compared to The Marvels it might as well be!
Of course, I still haven't seen it. Lol. I'm saying it could've been far worse like this situation.
Of those I only think Despicable Me 4 as the only guaranteed smash.
I rewatched Superman (1978) yesterday for the first time since my childhood and gosh, there's nothing in MCU that comes close to the scene of Superman and Lois Lane flying together.
You make some good points. Many people go to the movies just to hang out with their friends regardless of their interest in said movie, and eye candy never hurts.
If it was as easily simple as your explanation then Aquaman 2 would be coasting to a billion, which it's not looking like it will get anywhere near what the previous movie did. Woman can show up for male eye candy, but it's not gonna carry a movie if they're also being told to do homework before seeing it, told that the movie doesn't matter in the long run, or the movie isn't great, or all of the above. The superhero genre is being flooded with too much of everything and quality control being all over the place. This is what killed the YA movie genre post Hunger Games, and that's a genre that prides itself on having attractive dudes.
Hot Take: Marvel doesn't have anything that comes close to Lois and Clark. Even Peter and MJ aren't a close comparison. The best Superman stories almost always involve Lois. Half of Superman's character is his love for Lois.
The D+ homework thing is not as real as the perception of it. These aren't super deep characters and storylined, you can go on YT and watch 5 to 10 minutes "Legends" video on these characters and you are more than caught up with all the relevant information. These Marvel Legends videos are meant to be recap videos to get you up to speed if you even care about the characters/storyline.
Movies requiring any sort of outside material to understand it is poison to the brand. Game Of Thrones can still be followed if you watch every episode in order. The same isn't true of Marvel movies anymore.
And funny enough it's still the best female superhero movie as well!
I am saying you don't need to view outside material to understand what's going on here, only if you care to get more info. Stuff like Secret Invasion and Wanda Vision even go against the movies they preceed. This is exactly what I am talking about where it's a narrative formed around you NEEDING to watch Disney+ shows to understand the movies.
Yeah that's how I feel with most of them(not amazing).
You don't "need" to watch the D+ stuff but audiences will naturally feel disengaged if they see two of the leads of a movie be D+ characters. The Avengers didn't absolutely necessitate you to watch literally every movie to understand it but there was a clear lineage building up to it with the previous movies, where if you didn't see Thor you can at least understand that Thor and Loki are from his movie but you will miss finer details. Seeing Kamala and Monica in these trailers are more prone to make audiences go "who?" They might not even be aware there are D+ shows with these characters.
But people don't know that until they see the film. The perception of needing to watch D+ shows is where the problem lies in my opinion, not whether it's actually needed after the fact or not.
As I said, it's just one thing in a more complex situation, of course (it still helps a lot). That said, yeah, Aquaman 2 will probably bomb, but still its predecessor managed to be successful despite no one seemingly caring about it.
Disney needed this reality check. Stop paying $200m for everything
I know it's not what you mean, but I actually have a theater near me with mostly this kind of film, after the pandemic they expanded to mainstream stuff but it's still mostly focused on that. I'm going there today to watch Killers again lol
This movie wishes to get to 500 million after these not so good reviews. WOM and the 1st 3 weeks need to be strong for it.From what I checked, Deadline's box office tracking for Wish (reported back from early November) are pegging Wish at a $50 million for its 5-day Thanksgiving OW. Box Office Pro (from five days ago) has a slightly-to-strongly more positive outlook, with a range between $57M to $86M for the 5-day period.
Assuming the lower-range projection is accurate...not really seeing how that's a positive outlook (which is SlashFilm's take on it). A $50M-$57M OW is roughly around the same amount of money that Pixar's Lightyear (which also cost $200M to produce) brought in with its 3-day summer OW; and that film proceeded to become the new reference point for a Pixar-produced box office bomb.
And say what you will about Lightyear, but that film had a better critical reaction than what Wish is garnering now...
From what I checked, Deadline's box office tracking for Wish (reported back from early November) are pegging Wish at a $50 million for its 5-day Thanksgiving OW. Box Office Pro (from five days ago) has a slightly-to-strongly more positive outlook, with a range between $57M to $86M for the 5-day period.
Assuming the lower-range projection is accurate...not really seeing how that's a positive outlook (which is SlashFilm's take on it). A $50M-$57M OW is roughly around the same amount of money that Pixar's Lightyear (which also cost $200M to produce) brought in with its 3-day summer OW; and that film proceeded to become the new reference point for a Pixar-produced box office bomb.
And say what you will about Lightyear, but that film had a better critical reaction than what Wish is garnering now...
The power of Chris Pine's infinite charisma
The biggest movies of the year are still part of brand of sorts. I doubt that changes.
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Constantly, the sequences of poor CG are in the third act, which we later find out was heavily revamped in post production. Then it looks rushed and shoddy. Maybe they should stop revamping things so often without changing release dates.That was 100% Black Panther. People were going "wtf" in real time during the final fight.
