Nocturne is on the best JRPG console ever, all right, but it ain't Switch.
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With SMT titles announced does the Switch become the best J-RPG console ever? How did it get here?
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Nocturne is on the best JRPG console ever, all right, but it ain't Switch.
Is got to be between the PS2 and 3DS for me - especially if you factor in backwards compatibility.
I like that P5R is included in the "Haven't Played" section
I'd probably go 3DS. Switch is good, but the lack of backwards compatibility hurts it, even though I personally place emphasis on new original titles for thought exercises like this. So I'd put systems like PS1 and SNES high, too.
Personally think PS2 is very overrated on this front. It's good off the back of the PS1 library, but I think the new JRPGs of the PS2 were largely pretty bland. Doesn't help that I don't find Persona very good and I think the Final Fantasy games on it were meh.
PS4 is strong, too, although the lack of titles I can't get elsewhere hurts it for me personally. But again, I don't like Persona which probably hurts it where others see that title as probably a pretty big get for the PS4 in this conversation. I'm not sure there's a single PS4 JRPG I like that I can't get on Steam, which hurts it for me. Hard for me to rank the PS4 too high when I feel like, as a huge fan of JRPGs, I could've completely skipped the console and not missed out on anything. This isn't true for Switch and it's not true for 3DS.
I guess I'd go 3DS because it not only has access to a lot of great older titles from the eShop and DS backwards compatibility, but it has a comparatively large number of good JRPGs that you aren't going to be able to play elsewhere.
Personally think PS2 is very overrated on this front. It's good off the back of the PS1 library, but I think the new JRPGs of the PS2 were largely pretty bland. Doesn't help that I don't find Persona very good and I think the Final Fantasy games on it were meh.
PS4 is strong, too, although the lack of titles I can't get elsewhere hurts it for me personally. But again, I don't like Persona which probably hurts it where others see that title as probably a pretty big get for the PS4 in this conversation. I'm not sure there's a single PS4 JRPG I like that I can't get on Steam, which hurts it for me. Hard for me to rank the PS4 too high when I feel like, as a huge fan of JRPGs, I could've completely skipped the console and not missed out on anything. This isn't true for Switch and it's not true for 3DS.
I guess I'd go 3DS because it not only has access to a lot of great older titles from the eShop and DS backwards compatibility, but it has a comparatively large number of good JRPGs that you aren't going to be able to play elsewhere.
It's a successful, portable, Japanese console and the Vita is dead, it was inevitable.
I mean a lot of it's just ports.
I mean a lot of it's just ports.
Nintendo fanbase has a strong jrpg fanbase within it. Switch is handled. Also, niche stuff seem to perform well on Switch too so any niche JRPG dev might want to try to release their game on Switch, and Switch user want to play those niche games. Disgaea 5 indeed was a big early game, but imo yeah it was Xenoblade 2 the first big important JRPG release that made everyone think "yeah JRPGs are going to perform well here"
Showing off XC2, SMT5, and Octopath Traveler at the Switch debut event means Nintendo was positioning the Switch as an RPG device from the outset. XC2's big success cemented that, as did Octopath's. Also, the Switch is just very popular in Japan, which naturally leads to a lot of Japanese games being made for it.
It's not any more prominent than other consoles before it or even consoles running alongside it. No console wars from me, I love my Switch
Quite frankly it's the last appealing dedicated console in Japan handheld or not. There isn't a reason not to put your jrpg on the switch bar technical reasons.
Because it's the only handheld left which have been the home of JRPGs since the PS2 was sunset? Also because they're long af and people want that on something portable.
What in the world
first of all Disgaea 5 is a port and secondly the Switch is not the "home of JRPG's"
first of all Disgaea 5 is a port and secondly the Switch is not the "home of JRPG's"
That's fine. I disagree still - it's easier to draw the line and say "does the game work on my system?"
If yes, it's valid, otherwise you just get recycled original content being constantly ported. I'd exclude unofficial emulators. Also, the PC is inherently backwards compatible and transcends generations.
A combination of Vita ports, the handheld predecessor (the 3DS) being so strong as a JRPG machine, and lower production costs are the biggest factors, I think.
-Most popular console in Japan
-Only handheld console platform still in production
I mean, it's just a process of elimination here.
The platform ticks every single desirable checkbox.
-Only handheld console platform still in production
I mean, it's just a process of elimination here.
The platform ticks every single desirable checkbox.
This coupled with declining PS sales in Japan starting with the PS3 meaning if you want to sell primarily to the home market, you need to be on Nintendo's system. Or have a very good exclusivity contract lined up with Sony.
it's the successor to the DS and 3DS, for one, and the spiritual successor to the Vita. it also can handle modern 3D graphics. so 2D, 3D, retro, modern, whatever it is it's at home on the Switch
A lot of the JRPGs out on it were on the Vita so with the Vita not getting a succesor they started putting them on it.
Vita is a surprisingly strong contender given the PS1 and PSP content
this is the correct answer. it's portable. that alone makes it a perfect RPG machine.
Vita and 3DS devs need a place to go and the platform is popular in Japan. I still think a lot of 3DS devs aren't making the extra effort needed for an HD console though.
Of course, but they need to appeal to the Japanese market as well.
There's no Vita anymore - that's why.
Why anyone would think 'Disgaea' could cause anything to come to any platform is beyond me.
Why anyone would think 'Disgaea' could cause anything to come to any platform is beyond me.
too be honest as much as those titles are great it was neither, if you're not particularly familiar with the rpg landscape on handheld the switch hits that sweet spot being easier and cost effective to develop for as well as being able to take on the go, if you have kept up with some of the greats over the past few gens (we'll use Persona 4 Gold on vita for example) as much as its amazing playing the next AAA JRPG it just makes business and viable sense especially in a pre-pandemic world for it to boom for your great jrpg dev let alone any developer.
The Vita was coyly coined a Persona 4G for a machine playing those games on the go anywhere to grind out the various traits that align to that genre of game is an easy win compared to making the next Final Fantasy/Persona. Being a popular Japanese developer that they and the world respects pays dividends too.
The Vita was coyly coined a Persona 4G for a machine playing those games on the go anywhere to grind out the various traits that align to that genre of game is an easy win compared to making the next Final Fantasy/Persona. Being a popular Japanese developer that they and the world respects pays dividends too.
Yeah it's weird to count ports to Switch in the OP but discount backwards compatibility for older systems?
To have a legit discussion about libraries you need to discuss what games were developed and released for that system. Otherwise JRPG machines like PS1 and PS2 are both irrelevant because some PS3's has BC.
It should be looked at for what games were originally developed and released on each system. Otherwise you just rule out all but a handful of systems that play the library of previous consoles.
Not even within spitting distance of PS2, PS1 and SNES.
Edit: Even the PS4 gives Switch a run for it's money.
Edit: Even the PS4 gives Switch a run for it's money.
Could be a strong contender if they added 3DS/DS/GBA VC and more SNES games... but it's Nintendo.
