What a poorly thought out take lol. You're assuming it's the same people with the same values from 20 years ago speaking out against it just now.So basically "South Park is/was good when it aligned with my viewpoints"
What a poorly thought out take lol. You're assuming it's the same people with the same values from 20 years ago speaking out against it just now.So basically "South Park is/was good when it aligned with my viewpoints"
South Park isn't getting "cancelled" you morons. It's only ending when Trey & Matt are tired of it.
Also this:
South Park issues rare apology for 'ManBearPig' skewering of Al Gore
Show creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker made amends for a dis that is more than a decade old.www.nbcnews.com
That happened months ago though. It was a funny episode though, people finding out Manbearpig was real but resigned that there was nothing to be done and everyone basically having to beg Al Gore to help them now, and that Manbearpig was the fault of old people who didn't care about future generations because they were having too much fun.They apologized for the Manbearpig episode
edit: damn beaten by seconds lol
South Park is 23 years old. It isn't some hot new media that out of touch old fogies are whining about; it's criticism from people who have grown up around South Park.Rock music and DND turned an entire generation in Satanists and now, 24 years after it first aired South Park is responsible for the Alt Right. Every generation turns into their parents, they just find different ammo.
South Park is 23 years old. It isn't some hot new media that out of touch old fogies are whining about; it's criticism from people who have grown up around South Park.
I've noticed this for sports when a game that's ongoing or just finished is trending and nothing near the top of the list has the score or relevant info to the event. Just official accounts with random tweets or people complaining/boasting about the game. It's such a poor way of getting info.i notice when I do this now on Twitter all the tweets are about how the thing is trending and no one knows why
I'd argue that with a few exceptions, South Park has been very left winger for the past three or four years. They had a two part episode criticizing Amazon and frankly praising socialism and unionization. Lots of anti-Trump stuff. Apologizing for ManBearPig. Criticizing the lack of caring about gun violence in the US. The list goes on.The fact that someone called South Park left-wing leaves me hollering.
Rock music and DND turned an entire generation in Satanists and now, 24 years after it first aired South Park is responsible for the Alt Right. Every generation turns into their parents, they just find different ammo.
Is that a problem?
I think people overestimate the effects TV shows and other types of media have on behavior.
Centrist?
South Park is one of the most left leaning TV show in the 21st century and this coming from someone who has voted multiple times for the most left wing party in a social democracy.
If had a nickel for how many times I've heard people cite that stupid giant douche vs. turd sandwich episode...
Way, way more than any media. You bet your ass your average mass shooter grew up with a family that didn't care enough in an area drowning in firearms even though some would try to sell you that video games were the reason.this. it is part of a larger whole, but at the same time this is essentially a "nature vs nurture" argument.
let's not forget people's parents also affect how they behave...
It is because someone is inserting daredevil's theme to batman new video and it goes viral
I think people overestimate the effects TV shows and other types of media have on behavior.
Isn't that every episode? South park is a centrist's dream that loudly screeches about how caring about things is bad and makes fun of anything not part of the status quo.
While this is true, you'll quite often get episodes where awful things in society annoys Trey and Matt because they are socially pretty liberal. Things like gay conversion camps and not allowing gays in boy scouts and such.This isn't actually the core ideology of the show. It's "don't annoy Trey Parker."
They don't actually have beliefs. They seemed liberal when they lived in a small town, and they switched once they hit Hollywood and the people telling them to do stuff became liberals instead of conservatives. It's never been a smart show. The message was always "stop bugging me."
Alright, I'm getting kind of bored with you already, so I'm just going to ramble a bit and leave this here.
I think her take is a bad one that feels like an extension of the blame video games mentality. South Park didn't raise the generations of people who have enabled Donald Trump's rise to wanna-be fascist power. Blaming it feels like a waste of time and diverts attention away from the root causes of much of the world's current social ills.This forum thread is now just a continuation of the twitter thread, bunch a woodwork hot takes arguing against something Dana didn't say while not demonstrating an ounce of understanding of what she actually said.
Which is perhaps about the best we can expect from people taught to think by South Park.
This forum thread is now just a continuation of the twitter thread, bunch a woodwork hot takes arguing against something Dana didn't say while not demonstrating an ounce of understanding of what she actually said.
Which is perhaps about the best we can expect from people taught to think by South Park.
There's no need to be so dogmatic about it. I think most fans on Era will admit it has flaws but isn't at all responsible for today's political climate or our disaffected youth. The crushing futility of a failing and dying republic seized by decades of economic strangulation orchestrated by ancient sociopaths is what has made most of us cynical and somewhat defeatist. Saying South Park is even marginally responsible is quite a cheap argument.Which is perhaps about the best we can expect from people taught to think by South Park.
Considering it's made by libertarians I'd say that is a very damning statement about American media.Centrist?
South Park is one of the most left leaning TV show in the 21st century and this coming from someone who has voted multiple times for the most left wing party in a social democracy.
I think it's fair to defend it. Certainly if, like me, it seems erroneous to blame a global trend toward right-wing xenophobia and racism on a show. If anything South Park would be a symptom not the cause.I think it's okay to acknowledge the kind of attitude that shows like South Park can foster in people while also admitting that it's not the sole cause for why people act the way they do. There's no need to get defensive about your show.
As a dude in a wheelchair named Tim I sympathize with this.As someone who got made fun of for years due to something made up on the show, yeah. Also, the number of stupid quotes I've heard from South Park fans imitating Japanese people when I mentioned I lived there was racist and obnoxious. I think a lot of Americans don't process a lot of the shitty stuff they took from South Park, because it's comedy.
That's so fucked if anyone made that joke. I'm so sorry.
If had a nickel for how many times I've heard people cite that stupid giant douche vs. turd sandwich episode...
If I were asked to extract a political position from the movie, I'd be baffled. It is neither for nor against the war on terrorism, just dedicated to ridiculing those who wage it and those who oppose it. The White House gets a free pass, since the movie seems to think Team America makes its own policies without political direction.
I wasn't offended by the movie's content so much as by its nihilism. At a time when the world is in crisis and the country faces an important election, the response of Parker, Stone and company is to sneer at both sides -- indeed, at anyone who takes the current world situation seriously. They may be right that some of us are puppets, but they're wrong that all of us are fools, and dead wrong that it doesn't matter.
I wonder what made a generation of young people cynical and angry, distrustful of institutions and traditional politics.
Was it the collapse in living standards and rising levels of debt
Was it the illegal wars based on lies that killed millions of people and continue to rend the world's wounds open for decades
Was it the accelerating climate crisis destroying the planet, burning, drowning, choking and poisoning us all that leaders deny is happening, and when they don't decline to do anything about since it would be too expensive
Was it the return of fascism, white nationalism, ethnic cleansing, concentration camps and xenophobia
Was it the biggest financial collapse since the Great Depression, where insane hyper accelerated greed destroyed the homes and livelihoods of the middle class
No, in fact, it was a cartoon
I think it's fair to defend it. Certainly if, like me, it seems erroneous to blame a global trend toward right-wing xenophobia and racism on a show. If anything South Park would be a symptom not the cause.