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Why have we never gotten a proper version of Bane in a live action Batman movie?
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I haven't seen/read BvP, but that episode is basically a 1:1 adaptation of the Bane parts of Knightfall.
Could you not ask the same about practically every Batman villain besides The Joker and maybe Catwoman?
I disagree. Having read stories like Vengeance of Bane, Secret Six, and Bane of the Demon, l noticed many parallels with Nolan's Bane and Bane from the comics. Again, Nolan did take liberties, but it's clear he researched the character and used elements that most would have ignored, such as Schumacher. I love this version of Bane because it went against the stereotypes attached to him. Just like Bane is reliant on venom, Nolan's Bane is reliant on drugs that make him more formidable, and he obviously still wears a mask, so there are similarities. I personally liked his voice. Visually, Nolan's Bane is fantastic as well and was even adapted to the comics.
Nolan's trilogy has absolutely the intention of being grounded in reality. And that reality is about introducing a set of characters from the comic books to an audience that probably doesn't know who most of them are, aside from Batman itself and the Joker. That is why you have an enourmous bat-tank and an equally big bat-wing.
Is it realistic? No, what comic-book movie is it?
As for your second point, is Bane's nationality revealed at all at Rises? I don't remember.
And Nolan wanted Tom Hardy in a role for this movie, that's why he was actually made taller through CGI I guess to match Bale's height (or almost match it).
I think this + the style and tone of the movies. I dont think proper Bane works in the Nolan stuff, but tbh I could definitey see a comic accurate Bane in the DCEU. I mean hell look at how comic booky Batman is.
This man gets it. We already got the based interpretation of Bane.
Because Ra's Al Ghul was played by Liam Neeson and the idea is to make the audience believe Bane is his son.
Hardy Bane brought the required menace and cunning
If the barrier between a good portrayal is the luchador motif then he would not be a good character
If the barrier between a good portrayal is the luchador motif then he would not be a good character
It exists in the Batman '66 comic(haven't read it myself), there's also one where he meets the original man from uncle
Just watch Gotham for pretty darn proper versions of many villains
Joker - perfection
Penguin - perfection
Strange - perfection
Riddler - good
Firefly - great
Scarecrow - good
Mad Hatter - good
Zasz - perfection (but not accurate)
Freeze - perfection->ok
Arkham Origins Bane is the best so far. Looks good, is very smart, intimidating. He is much better than Rocksteady's efforts.
Hell I could say every single design and the art in general is much better than the rest of the series. Arkham Origins is the best Batman game for me.
Hell I could say every single design and the art in general is much better than the rest of the series. Arkham Origins is the best Batman game for me.
Just because that's what Nolan intended doesn't mean the entire audience or even the majority will be sitting there to perceive it as such. It's a superhero movie like the Keaton Batman movies before it, just a reboot.
Exactly, so trying to "ground it in reality" will only work so far but after a certain point it's not going to believable simply by being what it is, a comic book movie.
Not really, Alfred thought he was born and raised in the Pit which would've made him of Middle Eastern descent but it turns out that Talia was the one that was born and raised there. Bane just ended up there. If he was born there then his accent should've sounded like the rest of his inmates. It didn't.
Hardy did say that Bane's comic heritage played a part in the voice he developed, but that did not really reflect in his performance at all in my opinion.
Which was also dumb. Dwayne Johnson in every way shape and form would've made for a more accurate Bane but Hardy was chosen because Nolan worked with him before and if he just chooses to work with actors because of familiarity then we'll never see what other actors like Dwayne, would perform as under his directorial vision so I don't like this excuse either.
I'd like a proper Arkham asylum Batman portrayed on film, with the full rogues gallery.
Hell , just make a film adaptation of the game and be done about it.
Because Bane is in general bad character design. He's supposed to be super strong and super intelligent but he looks like one of the many trash tier throwaway fodder characters that the superhero has to go through to get to the main bad guy. His design gains no respect.
Well I'll be
Now I won't be satisfied until I see the '66 incarnation of Azrael Batman.
Worst part is, that you can totally hear that the voice is coming from the off.
Mr Freeze was also reinvented from a C-tier into A-tier through TAS. Harley Quinn also counts as a villain, despite DC's recent attempts to rebrand her as some kind of antihero.
Harley is biggest example. 2000s villains?
I dunno man. I wish that robot from the The Batman cartoon that assumed very villian's personality caught on. He was dope.
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Well they made him too goofy in B&RFirst we got this bumbling abomination in Batman and Robin:
And unlike Arnold Schwarzeneggar's Mr. Freeze, who was at least funny to watch and full of meme jokes, Bane was just awful.
Then we got Tom Hardy's Bane in Dark Knight Rises:
"We give it back to you....the peeeeeeeople."
"You'll just have to imagine the fire."
What the hell kind of a voice was this? I could barely understand what Tom Hardy was saying half the time. I don't know why he did his voice like this when Bane isn't supposed to even sound like that. Plus he had no venom at all, so it wasn't true to the character.
How have we not gotten a proper Bane after all this time?
Nolan had to distance himself from that.
Not a Knightfall fan I see.
Hardy's portrayal was a joke and an insult to the comic book character. Not only is he a henchman of Talia, but the fights sucked. You could barely hear what he's saying. His character arc is non-existing. There wasn't any explanation how Batman could defeat him the second time, who was recovering from a broken spine.
Awful Bane.
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Liam Neeson's son can't be darker skinned from that region bane is supposed to be from?
He was very strong, smart and kinda crazy in Rises. Also had a dumb mask and broke the Bat. It was a great adaptation of Bane.
I could be satisfied with that, so long as Joker has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Easily my least favorite parts of that franchise.
whoa, this is before DKR? his outfit is exactly the same!I disagree. Having read stories like Vengeance of Bane, Secret Six, and Bane of the Demon, l noticed many parallels with Nolan's Bane and Bane from the comics. Again, Nolan did take liberties, but it's clear he researched the character and used elements that most would have ignored, such as Schumacher. I love this version of Bane because it went against the stereotypes attached to him. Just like Bane is reliant on venom, Nolan's Bane is reliant on drugs that make him more formidable, and he obviously still wears a mask, so there are similarities. I personally liked his voice. Visually, Nolan's Bane is fantastic as well and was even adapted to the comics.
TDKR came first and DC liked it so much that they gave New 52 Bane the same look.
Yeah, he's truly amazing in Arkham. The scene where he puts joker in his place is so goodWe already did
The parts where Batman constructs a super suit for round two come from BvP.
Bane was never imposing nor intelligent. His master plan of taking out Batman was to use Catwoman to lead him into a trap; something an experienced Batman would never fall into so readily given his paranoia. Nolan doesn't understand these characters having no comic book background. That and he can't direct action fight scenes. The Joker worked because he isn't a brawler. Bane is.
Yeah, I totally forgot about Harley (I replied as such below that post). But, as with Bane, she got crossover appeal and subsequently got movie treatment (Suicide Squad would have never been made if it didn't have Harley in it).
I've only followed comics tangentially since the 90s, so I can't tell if this is a meme or not...but if it's not, I don't think anyone outside of comic fans would know who Kite Man is. Pre-movie appearances, I would guess Joe Sixpack knew who The Joker, The Penguin, Mr Freeze, and Two Face were. I would guess that they would also know who Bane was, based on the media coverage of breaking Batman's back in the comics. I don't think anyone knows who Kite Man is. I don't know who Kite Man is.
I was just remarking that comics seem to have problems creating villains that catch on in the mainstream past the 90s.
But the more I think about it, the more I wonder if it's because all those old villains got TV show appearances in the old Batman show and Spiderman cartoons. So it's a chicken and egg problem.
But I still feel like Joe Sixpack would have known who Magneto was pre-cartoon and movies.
Origins Bane is probably my favourite incarnation. Pity he's built up and ruined in the same game. Would have bought another game with Dojima Bane.We already did
I disagree. Batman's toolkit was based on current or emerging (feasible in near future) technology. Whilst the film wasn't 100% believable, having a hulking beast jacked on chemicals would have been a step too far. I think they done a great job with Hardy.
Yeah, it would have been nice if he was taller and maybe Latino but the guy got cast because he clearly showed in auditions that he was what Nolan was looking for.
Bane in TDKR was a great villain, to the extent that I wished he had nothing to do with Talia or Ras on a personal level and stood alone as a villain. I hated the twist at the end. He should have just been a damaged, charismatic man who took control of the remnants of the League to bring vengeance against Gotham. No child of Ras, just a man who escaped from the pit, intelligent, deadly, forcing a challenge and trying to prove a point about the haves and have-nots.
Unlike dealing with Joker, I don't really get how Bane changed Bruce in any appreciable way. Woke him out of his death wish, I guess?
Unlike dealing with Joker, I don't really get how Bane changed Bruce in any appreciable way. Woke him out of his death wish, I guess?
I can hardly blame them to be honest, they had to turn him into a dumbass by the end of the game to fit within the Asylum/City continuity.