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I didn't say they were as ubiquitous now as they were in every preceding decade, I said they weren't wholly forgotten and that kids can still recognize the main stars easily.
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit turns 35 years old this month
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Right, but I said the same thing. We're just talking in circles.
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That's likely the shadowed depth of the Toon characters when they're in the "real" world speaking. Ironically enough, that's an effect that aims to emulate a three-dimensional appearance. Not that we're short on CG that looks "alive" these days.
It's still impressive how they convinced all those IP holders to allow their (often competing with Disney, back in the day) characters to be in the film.
My favorite cameo is probably Betty Boop. "Work's been kinda slow since cartoons went to color."
And voiced by the original Bettie Boop actress, here at 80 years old. And just a year later played Aunt Bethany in Christmas Vacation
Certainly. The movie is about political corruption, alcoholism, murder, and racism. And it was sold as a kid's movie
One of my favorite movies.
Hoskins is awesome.
Lloyd is awesome.
Animation and technical wizardry is awesome.
Movie is awesome.
Hoskins is awesome.
Lloyd is awesome.
Animation and technical wizardry is awesome.
Movie is awesome.
When I finally saw Chinatown, I was like "Oh, Roger Rabbit was heavily influenced by it"
This film came out just when I hit puberty, so yeah I had a huge crush on Jessica Rabbit
The animation director Richard Williams is legend. He does stuff in this movie that NOBODY else would do. "Somethin's Cookin" is one of the most insane pieces of hand-drawn animation I've seen.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mKE0UCl5Cg
The minutia here is complete insanity.
0:23 - Animating the perspective on the floor slats, the crib, and the chair. Nowadays this is just a typical CG shot. Back then, you were like "what the fuck am looking at."
0:55 - More perspective animation wizardry. The fucking TILES! Someone had to paint that by hand!
1:25 - What the fuck
2:31 - This isn't CG, and they messed up the shot because they spelled 'Chili" with two Ls (animated in the UK) so they had to redo the whole thing
3:16 - How do you even move the camera like that
And almost all of this is done on ones. What. The. Fuck.
If you look up Williams' THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER, it contains shots that make these look utterly simple in comparison.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mKE0UCl5Cg
The minutia here is complete insanity.
0:23 - Animating the perspective on the floor slats, the crib, and the chair. Nowadays this is just a typical CG shot. Back then, you were like "what the fuck am looking at."
0:55 - More perspective animation wizardry. The fucking TILES! Someone had to paint that by hand!
1:25 - What the fuck
2:31 - This isn't CG, and they messed up the shot because they spelled 'Chili" with two Ls (animated in the UK) so they had to redo the whole thing
3:16 - How do you even move the camera like that
And almost all of this is done on ones. What. The. Fuck.
If you look up Williams' THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER, it contains shots that make these look utterly simple in comparison.
I was gonna say Koko the Clown, but then I realised he was in there... Just with a weird, different (and lame) look:
The best Koko scene:
View: https://youtu.be/cKOSJ5AAwfc?t=260
Cab Calloway performs the song and the dance moves (including an early moonwalk) are also his.
The best Koko scene:
View: https://youtu.be/cKOSJ5AAwfc?t=260
Cab Calloway performs the song and the dance moves (including an early moonwalk) are also his.
I heard Tim Curry actually auditioned for Judge Doom but they said he was too scary so it went to Christopher Lloyd instead. Can't imagine how terrifying he had to have been.
A perfect movie. Absolutely perfect. And it's baffling a sequel never got off the ground.
At least Rescue Rangers pulled off something similar, though clearly without the budget it could have had.
Wasn't that also rumoured as a reason he was recast as Joker in BTAS?
At least Rescue Rangers pulled off something similar, though clearly without the budget it could have had.
Wasn't that also rumoured as a reason he was recast as Joker in BTAS?
One of my favorite movies of all time, with one of my favorite actors of all time (Lloyd).
My 8 year old kid actually likes this movie too, surprisingly.
It's a technical marvel and supremely skillful in its execution from animation to acting.
My 8 year old kid actually likes this movie too, surprisingly.
It's a technical marvel and supremely skillful in its execution from animation to acting.
For those in LA and are in the know, I always thought a double feature between this movie in Chinatown would be an amazing time at the New Beverly Cinema.
Crossovers are a dime a dozen these days, but anybody who saw this movie when it was new had their mind blown when Daffy Duck fought Donald Duck.
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I pretty much came here just to gush about those tiles. So good.
This was the movie that woke up several desires in me when it came to Jessica Rabbit.
To this day I have a very particular affinity to Redheads. I blame this movie.
To this day I have a very particular affinity to Redheads. I blame this movie.
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Still an absolutely fantastic movie on all fronts. Haven't watched it in a few years, but I definitely should! Got my hands on the Game Boy game (that Shinji Mikami worked on, I think?) recently, and I want to beat that since I only got to try it out at a friend's house back in the day. Should have myself an all Roger Rabbit weekend this week.
I rewatched this one recently and it still holds up.
Not quite as good as I remember (it's a bit style over substance) but it's entertaining and still looks stunning.
Not quite as good as I remember (it's a bit style over substance) but it's entertaining and still looks stunning.
I always felt like this scene was kind of an accident. Like the entire reason it's a shoe is because it's an inanimate object, right? (No pun intended) But then I can just see some production designer adding some eyes to it not thinking about how the scene suddenly becomes the murder of a sentient being (and the director just not caring I guess).
Every year further away from release Roger Rabbit climbs further up my rankings, honestly it's one of my favourite movies at this point. There are just so many layers to the story and world, Bob Hoskins put on one hell of a performance and visually it still remains the best mix of cartoon characters and live action.
What?
Ok you are banned from watching or thinking about movies. I can't even look at you.
edit: if you're doing a bit then it's brilliant and you are an evil genius and I hate it
It's conjecture, sure, but looking at one of the drafts of the script, it has Judge Doom demonstrating the dip on a cartoon gopher, and I feel like the whole reason the writer would change it to a shoe is that it's merely an object and showing a nonchalant slaughter of an animal by dipping it in a barrel of acid was a bit intense for the kind of movie they were going for.
Then it's easy to see that this didn't necessarily get across to the rest of the production (or maybe they just didn't care) so suddenly this shoe has eyes and reacts emotionally to its impending death and then you got an execution-of-an-innocent scene regardless. I could be wrong but I think it's a plausible scenario, and a darkly humorous one to think about.
It's been a while since I've seen the movie so maybe it's established that all toons are alive, but I do recall there being inert cartoon objects like hammers and such.
I don't think the film establishes anything about it. Like, Eddie's gun is a cartoon gun.... but the bullets are all living to the point they make active decisions about which way to go.
I think it basically boils down to "if it has eyes, it's alive".
Watched for the first time properly last year.
What a great movie! One of my favorites now. Crazy how weird Robert Zemeckis' filmography is, bouncing back and forth between stinkers and masterpieces.
What a great movie! One of my favorites now. Crazy how weird Robert Zemeckis' filmography is, bouncing back and forth between stinkers and masterpieces.
I watched it the other day on Disney+ and it's still there.
May have been censored for TV viewings.
Loved it as a kid, and this is still one of my favorite movies. I watch it every few years!
The Donald vs Daffy piano fight has to be one of my favorite scenes in a movie
The Donald vs Daffy piano fight has to be one of my favorite scenes in a movie
It's free on Youtube if you have an hour and 35 mins of free time:
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit
It's 1947 Hollywood, and Eddie Valiant (Bob Hoskins), a down-on-his-luck detective, is hired to find proof that Marvin Acme, gag factory mogul and owner of T...
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You could very much argue Roger Rabbit led to a renewed interest in animation by the public in general. It was the biggest movie of 1988, the very next year saw the beginning of the Disney renaissance, and the Looney Tunes saw a renewed profile as Warner Bros' mascots (I remember Bugs and Daffy giving an intro to the 1989 Batman VHS) and soon afterwards Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, and yes, Space Jam.
The movie was also arguably even more geared to adults than it was to kids, and the next year saw the debut of The Simpsons, and as the 90s went on there came wider-ranging animation like Batman The Animated Series, Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux, Ren & Stimpy, and people in the west started looking into this thing called "anime."
Maybe Roger Rabbit wasn't direcrly responsible for all of that, but it'd be pretty easy to divide animation into pre- and post- Roger Rabbit eras.
The movie was also arguably even more geared to adults than it was to kids, and the next year saw the debut of The Simpsons, and as the 90s went on there came wider-ranging animation like Batman The Animated Series, Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux, Ren & Stimpy, and people in the west started looking into this thing called "anime."
Maybe Roger Rabbit wasn't direcrly responsible for all of that, but it'd be pretty easy to divide animation into pre- and post- Roger Rabbit eras.
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Second-biggest movie of 1988 from what I recall. It was narrowly outgrossed by Rain Man. But yes, the film definitely renewed interest in classic animation for a lot of people.
For such an amazing and huge movie for its time, it really doesn't have the legacy it should. Probably because it would be so hard to do a sequel. A one-and-done that's just slowly forgotten.
I still remember drawing Roger Rabbits everywhere when I was a kid.
Shame the NES game was so terrible.
I still remember drawing Roger Rabbits everywhere when I was a kid.
Shame the NES game was so terrible.
Watching this film as an adult is like watching it again for the first time. Once you truly appreciate the effort that went into making it, jesus christ.