Or potentially give people a false sense of security, which leads to irresponsible behaviour? Like being out and about, instead of locked down safely, and travelling only for essential needs/work.
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While it is an amazing thing that President Biden won, is there not any concern that the ongoing victory gatherings will cause COVID case surges?
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But haven't people already been doing this on both sides now? When it comes to covid, we're just fucked till there's a vaccine.
yup but they were all pretty close... masks do help but they are not 100% unless you are talking about certain type of masks (FFP2)
That was what I thought of when I saw the crowds too. And cases are already through the roof as it is.
At the same time, though, I'm not surprised that it happened. Yesterday was like waking up from a long nightmare.
At the same time, though, I'm not surprised that it happened. Yesterday was like waking up from a long nightmare.
People are wearing masks.
It's literally the thing we've been trying to explain to Republicans all along: life can go back to a more normal existence if they'll just wear one and sanitize.
There was no spike during the BLM protests because they wore masks and sanitized.
It's literally the thing we've been trying to explain to Republicans all along: life can go back to a more normal existence if they'll just wear one and sanitize.
There was no spike during the BLM protests because they wore masks and sanitized.
I get the concern but the people celebrating are practicing safe distancing (mostly) and wearing masks. BLM protests didn't contribute to any major spike in cases as I doubt we'll see any spikes from the celebrations now.
Where I am sure we will see spikes are in rural counties where people were gathering to intimidate election officials.
Where I am sure we will see spikes are in rural counties where people were gathering to intimidate election officials.
At least most were wearing masks, unlike Trump's rallies. Can't blame people for wanting to celebrate after 4 years of hell and misery.
As others said, plenty of mask wearing. Though I do wish people were more distanced. Our numbers are skyrocketing in PA
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It's not just the masks, though. It's the physical distancing. Those crowds gathered to talk trash across the street from the White House, were absolutely packed end to end. No space anywhere.
All it takes is one person, to create a super spreader event. That's why distancing matters.
Outside + masks makes a big difference. But yeah, I think everyone needed to get that out of their systems, and I don't think it will cause a further spike. We'll see.
Yea this was one of my concerns seeing all those big street parties on the news. It will inevitably lead to a bit of an uptick in the cities, but hopefully these being short lived and everyone wearing masks will prevent these events from becoming major spreaders.
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Watch this. And especially around 5: 45 or so. There is no mostly distancing about it.
That's what they said about the BLM protests and that wasn't true at all.
The next month is going to see more record numbers, combined with the dropping temperatures, it's going to be ugly.
That said, I don't blame people for celebrating. A lot of America as a whole had already given up on trying to curb Covid outside of wearing masks (and it's not just republicans), and that's going to be a huge hurdle to overcome in the next year or so
That said, I don't blame people for celebrating. A lot of America as a whole had already given up on trying to curb Covid outside of wearing masks (and it's not just republicans), and that's going to be a huge hurdle to overcome in the next year or so
Yeah, I'm sure they'll spread the virus, but I also think that maybe if the current president gave a shit and had been a leader on the virus, maybe it would be less of a problem.
I basically look at this issue as a legitimate but backdoor whatabout situation, just like protesting in the Summer.
I basically look at this issue as a legitimate but backdoor whatabout situation, just like protesting in the Summer.
I don't think saying that we're fucked anyway is a great take.
It is concerning and not a great look, that said I just posted this on Twitter responding to a comparison between the celebration after a football game last night and the election celebrations. Spoiler tagging since it's my own Tweet but it's in line with this conversation.
i feel like that criticism was more to 'pwn the libs' you can't really quantify how much those protests did or didn't infect. maybe there's contact tracing to refute that i dunno
but i think bar none large gatherings = dangerous until there is a serious downtick in cases
and if Trump won there wouldn't be this same concern?
There was always going to be mass parties and congregations.
There was always going to be mass parties and congregations.
I went out yesterday near me, staying out of the actual crowd... everyone was wearing masks more than I usually see tbh.
Is it concerning? Yeah. Especailly other celebrations I see where people are on top of each other. Idk what you can realistically do though, people are going to celebrate, it's 4 years worth of catharsis.
It's not really a partisan thing though, look at all of the trump gatyherings yesterday or still going. Those people are gathering too, they don't even wear masks, so idk.
Is it concerning? Yeah. Especailly other celebrations I see where people are on top of each other. Idk what you can realistically do though, people are going to celebrate, it's 4 years worth of catharsis.
It's not really a partisan thing though, look at all of the trump gatyherings yesterday or still going. Those people are gathering too, they don't even wear masks, so idk.
Wearing a mask is such a simple precaution, and unlike idiot right-wingers, these people are wearing them. It's not 100% effective, but it seriously reduces the risk.
I don't think you're wrong that they're way more susceptible but I do think the people there are doing what they can to mitigate what they can (outside of not being there, obviously).
Depends on local case numbers somewhat but generally if everyone is masked and outside there isn't much chance for infection, as seen in the summer's protests. There's still some risk but it's probably better overall to get it out of everyone's system a little bit and reduce social pressure for one weekend which will likely help improve mental resilience and voluntary compliance with health orders going forward this winter.
Masks don't help much in this scenario unless it covers your full face.
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The next 2 weeks will tell. And it's also concerning because US Thanksgiving is also around the corner, in combination with the fucking madness of Black Friday sales.
Studies showed us from the BLM protests that outdoor gatherings didn't result in too many cases. People knew to keep their masks on and to not hang out in tightly packed bars and shit like the way Sturgis turned into a superspreader.
But every crowd is different, so we'll know in a couple weeks.
But every crowd is different, so we'll know in a couple weeks.
Yeah masks aren't magic. you guys are on top of each other. I hope you smart up soon but not holding my breath.
Not only that but Biden has been actively encouraging masks and responsibility for people's celebrations. And we saw from the BLM protests this summer that with discipline and mask wearing there is very very limited spread.
It's not the smartest move but people wanna let off some steam after a tiring four years and an extra stressful year, especially in big cities. I get it. And they're wearing masks and they're outside. Which helps greatly mitigate spread.
And plenty of people in the media have commented on it. So no one is ignoring the giant elephant in the room.
The very first thing Biden is announcing tmrw is about covid. He's not wasting time attacking it.
And plenty of people in the media have commented on it. So no one is ignoring the giant elephant in the room.
The very first thing Biden is announcing tmrw is about covid. He's not wasting time attacking it.
Between the protests, Lakers, Dodgers and Biden, I don't think Los Angeles has stopped gathering outside for months.
Lmao that's how you get 130k new cases a day. People take this too lightly.
Yes it's absolutely a concern. Not just the visible crowds in the streets but also the private indoor gatherings.
Comparing it to the BLM protests ignores the fact that we're in a wildly different phase of the pandemic compared to back then.
There is currently a huge surge in daily cases in the US and Europe. The infection growth had a whole different dynamic in late May / early June when it was mostly stable.
Mask work a great deal obviously but are not the end of all solution against the virus. As you can see from european countries with mask mandates which still have to go into lockdown.
Autumn/Winter are just that much more dangerous now than the summer months.
Almost none of the crowds they showed on CNN yesterday were practicing social distancing
Comparing it to the BLM protests ignores the fact that we're in a wildly different phase of the pandemic compared to back then.
There is currently a huge surge in daily cases in the US and Europe. The infection growth had a whole different dynamic in late May / early June when it was mostly stable.
Mask work a great deal obviously but are not the end of all solution against the virus. As you can see from european countries with mask mandates which still have to go into lockdown.
Autumn/Winter are just that much more dangerous now than the summer months.
Almost none of the crowds they showed on CNN yesterday were practicing social distancing
