POR QUE THE KING OF FIGHTERS É PAIXÃO NACIONAL?
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US sales from 1995 to 2007. MK appears several times while SF doesnt appear once.
KoF ain't that popular anywhere anymoreYes, in the non western country Brazil the rule is
KOF > MK >>>> SF
And i say this as someone who prefers a good SF like alpha 3
Both the franchises are a shadow of their former Arcade glory days , even with MK selling far more now on console than it did back then. That said SF hit a much higher peak than MK with SF2.
SF2 made a crazy amount of money in the Arcades.
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SF2 in the Arcades was the equivalent of Fortnite or GTAV now ( or even bigger when you take into account inflation ).
MK definitely sells way more nowadays. But the SF name is far more ingrained in pop culture worldwide. And its probably going to remain that way until we get another Fighting game that legitimately beats other genres saleswise and grains mainstream recognition.
Lets not ignore how big SF was in the Arcades in that era.
I wish KOF was that popular here. KOF lost their crown two decades ago and never took it back.Yes, in the non western country Brazil the rule is
KOF > MK >>>> SF
And i say this as someone who prefers a good SF like alpha 3
It is interesting how MK keeps getting bigger even if being Rated R stops it from having collaborations like this one
I wish KOF was that popular here. KOF lost their crown two decades ago and never took it back.
It's MK in Brazil for sure. And I wouldn't be surprised either if Tekken was more popular than KOF and SF around here nowadays.
Hell no, I imagine you are Brazilian to even say this, but come on. KoF does not have a bigger audience than SF nor MK in Brazil as far as scene, tournaments and sales go.
They seem to care more about fan servicey character design over....you know...a fun experience.It's clearly MK.
Idk why Capcom is not innovating more with SF. Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry all look amazing and have been really well adapted to modern standards. But SFV doesn't feel like a AAA game at all, maybe it's the lower budget, the fan servicey character design, idk but there's something about it that feels very outdated.
I think you're overestimating KOF's popularity, specially compared to MK and SF. I guarantee every single person who understand Rugal jokes also knows who Ryu and Sub-Zero are and most likely played a SF or MK game more recently than a KOF one.KOF is popular here for the same reason lots of people are saying SF is popular
KOF was THE arcade game here in brazil so it was like a cultural tradition for a long time
like you can make Rugal jokes and lots of people will understand
The last games have been pretty weak and it decreased in popularity, but it is still in the hearts of people
Maybe in the late 90s but SF was inactive the entire PS2 era.Both the franchises are a shadow of their former Arcade glory days , even with MK selling far more now on console than it did back then. That said SF hit a much higher peak than MK with SF2.
SF2 made a crazy amount of money in the Arcades.
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SF2 in the Arcades was the equivalent of Fortnite or GTAV now ( or even bigger when you take into account inflation ).
MK definitely sells way more nowadays. But the SF name is far more ingrained in pop culture worldwide. And its probably going to remain that way until we get another Fighting game that legitimately beats other genres saleswise and grains mainstream recognition.
Lets not ignore how big SF was in the Arcades in that era.
Exactly. Come on guys, this is such an absurd take. KoF in Brazil, no matter how nostalgic you feel about the early 90s arcade days, was never more popular than SF and MK.I think you're overestimating KOF's popularity, specially compared to MK and SF. I guarantee every single person who understand Rugal jokes also knows who Ryu and Sub-Zero are and most likely played a SF or MK game more recently than a KOF one.
More like SF was PubG and then Mortal Kombat was fortnite.Both the franchises are a shadow of their former Arcade glory days , even with MK selling far more now on console than it did back then. That said SF hit a much higher peak than MK with SF2.
SF2 made a crazy amount of money in the Arcades.
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Video games are serious business. You might be surprised to see which games are the most popular of all time.www.businessinsider.com
SF2 in the Arcades was the equivalent of Fortnite or GTAV now ( or even bigger when you take into account inflation ).
MK definitely sells way more nowadays. But the SF name is far more ingrained in pop culture worldwide. And its probably going to remain that way until we get another Fighting game that legitimately beats other genres saleswise and grains mainstream recognition.
Lets not ignore how big SF was in the Arcades in that era.
I don't think MK is any less iconic as a pop culture IP. It is less iconic for the FGC due to SF being the blueprint for everything else, but as far a pop culture go I have serious doubt MK is not ahead of it. I have no argument other than personal experience, but if we go after numbers that won't really favor SF at all lol.If we're talking popular based on sales number, well numbers don't lie, no arguing here. At least for the recent titles, no idea of total sales of all times.
If we're gonna talk popularity through all their existence, I believe SF is fucking ICONIC. Just imagine how many references it gets in any other type of media. Even my mom knows hadoken lol.
The characters aren't don't seem to be as popular. Like chun li is just below like a mario or pikachu. I'm hip-hop which is like the most popular pop culture thing ever right now, I literally can't count the amount of references to SF. Can't think of any MK ones despite them partnering with big rappers twice for the last two games.I don't think MK is any less iconic as a pop culture IP. It is less iconic for the FGC due to SF being the blueprint for everything else, but as far a pop culture go I have serious doubt MK is not ahead of it. I have no argument other than personal experience, but if we go after numbers that won't really favor SF at all lol.
SFIV juiced it back up, and it was going really well. However, after Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, Street Fighter X Tekken, Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite, and Street Fighter V's horrible lauch, Capcom really lost the momentum it had.SF has a ton of cultural nostalgia for 90s gamers but it really fell off the map as the arcade scene died off and never quite recovered
There are several MK references in Hip Hop media tho. 21 Savage talks about it a lot, there's even a song pretty much dedicated to it, the video for the famous Lil Wayne diss from Pusha T (Exodus 23:1) shows people playing MK3, Young Thug uses MK references all the time (I can instantly think of Now, Digits, Draw Down). This is just from stuff that instantly came to mind lol.The characters aren't don't seem to be as popular. Like chun li is just below like a mario or pikachu. I'm hip-hop which is like the most popular pop culture thing ever right now, I literally can't count the amount of references to SF. Can't think of any MK ones despite them partnering with big rappers twice for the last two games.
The weren't being metaphorical. Street Fighter II was literally Fortnite, GTA V, Minecraft popular and lucrative. Made over $10 billion in the 90s. One quarter at a time.
Honestly the R-Rating shouldn't stop them. Scorpion and Sub Zero both have iconic movesets that are divided enough from the Gore that they are somewhat viable (if unlikely) smash bros candidates without the blood and gore.It is interesting how MK keeps getting bigger even if being Rated R stops it from having collaborations like this one
There's a new king. That smashes that franchise.Mortal Kombat is the biggest fighting game series of all time. Not even debatable.
Its tournament scene dwindles more quickly, but yeah.
Sorta yeah but as a franchise it's debatable since it's 99.9% crossover.
MK can and has worked without the gore. Hell, the most popular piece in the series was a PG-13 movieHonestly the R-Rating shouldn't stop them. Scorpion and Sub Zero both have iconic movesets that are divided enough from the Gore that they are somewhat viable (if unlikely) smash bros candidates without the blood and gore.
I'm also reminded that there's always been the occasional "What if Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter crossed over" thing as well, including a request from Netherrealms fairly recently, according to this Eurogamer article.
You all also reminded me of the Japanese arcade test for the reboot. I can't find too much information about it, however, and only one tweet that seems to mention it.
SF2 is definitely the king. Heck Mortal Kombat probably wouldnt even exist if not for SF2.If you want an actual comparison to Arcade sales performance. If SF was Pubg then MK was Blackout or something.
Arcade game - Wikipedia
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Street Fighter II
200,000 (up to 1992)
The World Warrior: 60,000
Champion Edition: 140,000
$2.312 billion (up to 1995)
(The World Warrior
Champion Edition)
Mortal Kombat
24,000 (up to 2002)
$570 million (up to 2002)
Mortal Kombat II
27,000 (up to 2002)
$100 million (up to 1994)
The entire MK franchise didn't top $1bn in the Arcades. This is still a huge amount , but SF2 was just that much bigger.
In a way their Metaphor kinda worked.
PUBG is bigger than Fortnite worldwide.
Yes that is true. But You are talking about a game that went from GTAV level of sales on the Arcade to 2-3m or w/e it sold on consoles.
Even the SFIV revival is a very small in comparison to how big it was.
Its sorta like how modern Pacman games wont sell more than random AA or indie title. But Pacmans iconic legacy is still far bigger than most modern titles.
Championship Edition is a 30$ "buy the whole game including DLC minus the Capcom Cup content" thing. The only reason why we're getting a new Season Pass is because Street Fighter VI probably flopped and Ono left the company, so they needed to do damage control. We were all expecting Street Fighter VI to be announced this year at least.Injustice is probably bigger than Street Fighter nowadays.
Capcom should have abandoned SFV years ago, every new season pass only buries the title more into obscurity by appealing only to those who got into the game five full years ago and missing out a whole new refreshed audience.
This was in 2012, when Mortal Kombat got a reboot. I think it became the issue of "it failed once and we're not going to try it again". Mortal Kombat already is a hard sell due to the Gore.They should have done this with MKX instead... MK9 is not necessarily bad but it feels really stiff and it's a rather ugly game.
It sucks, I had to import my Switch copy of MK11 because the series doesn't exist here.
Injustice is probably bigger than Street Fighter nowadays.
Capcom should have abandoned SFV years ago, every new season pass only buries the title more into obscurity by appealing only to those who got into the game five full years ago and missing out a whole new refreshed audience.
You can still go to the arcades an play (old) KOF games against actual people in Mexico. But at the same time, MK sells quite well in Mexico and NRS always delivers high quality Spanish voice acting for Latin America. Both would be bigger than SF, maybe.
I thought the same, but Japan doesn't really have a problem with gore in Resident Evil. They just think schoolgirls are a better fit for fighting games than blood around here, lol.This was in 2012, when Mortal Kombat got a reboot. I think it became the issue of "it failed once and we're not going to try it again". Mortal Kombat already is a hard sell due to the Gore.
I wonder if we should take into consideration population too.Street Fighter is highly popular here in Asia. I can find many local gaming event or tournament that plays this game more than MK.
The popularity is so high, that even a non-gamer, local radio DJs can reference Street Fighter characters and their moves on live.
If speaking globally, I would say it should be the same.
Yeah, I think a a good bit of it is the aesthetic. Even "realistic" fighting games, like Tekken and Virtua Fighter, are more colorful then Mortal Kombat.I thought the same, but Japan doesn't really have a problem with gore in Resident Evil. They just think schoolgirls are a better fit for fighting games than blood around here, lol.
I don't know if it's optimized in any way, but this game still looks incredible on my Series S 😭Yeah, I think a a good bit of it is the aesthetic. Even "realistic" fighting games, like Tekken and Virtua Fighter, are more colorful then Mortal Kombat.
Virtua Fighter held up fairly wellI don't know if it's optimized in any way, but this game still looks incredible on my Series S 😭
Far better than Tekken 7 which is blur city on Xbox.
SFIV sold 9M+ copies, SF5 sold 5M copies with no Xbox, versus MKX and MK11 selling 20M?The game still moves 200k copies every quarter after 5 years. Just because it hasn't sold 8 million copies like MK11 doesn't mean it's not a massive hit with over 5 million copies sold. Y'all ain't gotta be weird to make points.
SFIV sold 9M+ copies, SF5 sold 5M copies with no Xbox, versus MKX and MK11 selling 20M?
I don't get why people are acting like this is a blowout.
SF2 is definitely the king. Heck Mortal Kombat probably wouldnt even exist if not for SF2.
However Street Fighter Alpha or 3 never recaptured the success of 2 (a shame because IMO Alpha 2 is the best one). MK was popular til around 96 with Trilogy. After that the series kind of floundered with MK4 and those crappy beat em ups.
SF was pretty inactive during the whole PS2 era while the MK series got a minor reboot in Deadly Alliance-Decption-Armageddon. Nothing to brag about sales wise but better than nothing.
Finally it's been established that the new MK games outpace SF5 in sales. So I'd say that SF2 is the biggest game between both franchises, but as of now MK is more popular.
I'm saying. MK is clearly the better seller. And for good reason. NRS does just about everything at a high level these days. But the notion that Street Fighter is some obscure ancient property is absurd.
SFIV sold 9M+ copies, SF5 sold 5M copies with no Xbox, versus MKX and MK11 selling 20M?
I don't get why people are acting like this is a blowout.