This country is beyond fucked if people think Obama was our last good president.
This country is beyond fucked if people think Obama was our last good president.
This country is beyond fucked if people think Obama was our last good president.
Not a president.
Answer is Obama.
Carter was not a good President. He completely squandered all political capital that the Dems had post-Nixon.
No we haven't forgotten.People saying FDR conveniently forget the internment camps huh?
Anywho, real answer, most likely none cna be considered "good".
I suppose you guys think Trudeau is not a good Prime Minister either
Ok who let Ben Shapiro join the forum?Obama owned a tan suit and ate both dijon mustard and guacamole and once used a selfie stick so the only acceptable answer is Ronald Reagan.
I mean, for all the critique that Obama squandered post-Bush resentment, at least he only had 2 years in which to do the squandering
wasn't hannity the one that flipped over the dijon mustard/?
Ah yes, concentration camps. A mere ideological difference.Something more people need to keep in mind I think. If you find a president that after his term you can say with 100% certainty that everything they did or didn't do was in line with your ideology then congratulations, you're a unicorn.
And "everything sucks and everything/everyone ever is/was shit" is a more productive approach?
Obama lost the House in 2010 due to structural factors he couldn't avoid. (Win the Presidency, lose congress is very much a thing post-Reagan.)
Yeah, no. Obama did nothing to "erode democracy in the US".
Obama's long-term legacy would include eight years of relatively good government, healthcare reform, extensive investment in the development of green energy, big advances in LGBT rights, etc. He could have done more, of course, but Congress after 2011 was unworkable.
Something more people need to keep in mind I think. If you find a president that after his term you can say with 100% certainty that everything they did or didn't do was in line with your ideology then congratulations, you're a unicorn.
No we haven't forgotten.
However, good =/= perfection and he progressed the country more than any other President in our history outside of maybe Lincoln.
Did nothing to erode democracy? Lol.
Largest ever corporate bribery in politics.
Continued unconstitutional spying of Americans.
Murder of American citizens without trial.
War action abroad without constitutional approval.
Too big to prosecute.
Failure to secure net neutrality.
Appointment of pro corporate judges.
Just off the top of my head.
And "everything sucks and everything/everyone ever is/was shit" is a more productive approach?
Or is it just pathetic?
You were quoting a person who was defending FDR?Wow you're going to have to walk me through where I said that people can't be against concentration camps.
And "everything sucks and everything/everyone ever is/was shit" is a more productive approach?
Or is it just pathetic?
A lot of people don't care about those people because theyre brown and don't live here.Didn't obama authorise blowing up little kids? Pretty sad if he is your choice.
Deported more immigrants than Bush. Committed more war crimes than Trump has thus far.Obama's not in the same category Or even the same fucking ballpark as War Criminal Bush or Foriegn Agent Trump.
Expecting any leader in this history of civilization to not have blood on their hands is... well, you'll be disappointed.
Obama's not in the same category Or even the same fucking ballpark as War Criminal Bush or Foriegn Agent Trump.