What was worse?

  • Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull

    Votes: 502 29.9%
  • Star Wars Rise of Skywalker

    Votes: 1,179 70.1%

  • Total voters
    1,681
Apr 21, 2018
6,969
Thread title is self explanatory.

And I make this thread because I honestly can't pinpoint which one I detest more.


Remember, the thread question isn't which one you prefer for think is better -- it's which one you think is worst. Vote for the worst of the two. (I don't know why I thought this needed extra clarification)
 
Oct 30, 2017
15,278
Crystal Skull is a solid 7/10.

It has plenty of camp, but it is a solid Indy adventure. I don't get why people shit on it so much.
 

Kagari

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Oct 24, 2017
4,590
Rise of Skywalker. Never been so angry watching a film's credits roll.
 

Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
28,005
Brazil
Rise of Skywalker is so bad it literally makes previous movies worst

Crystal Skull is pretty faithfull to the "source material" that inspired previous indiana movies and is just a "meh" movie
 

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
14,524
Crystal Skull is a step down from the other Indiana Jones movies but is a mostly competent period piece adventure film with some fun setpieces mixed in there.

Rise of Skywalker is a bad movie, down to its soul, and I struggle to find anything complementary about it.
 

Osahi

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Oct 27, 2017
5,968
I don't hate either of them. I can enjoy both for what they are. TROS is the most disapointing though, in how it followed up TLJ.
 

jml

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Mar 9, 2018
4,783
Rise of Skywalker because I didn't care about anything that was happening in that movie. I almost fell asleep in the theater watching RoS and that never happens to me.
 
Jul 14, 2018
1,536
Philadelphia
Crystal Skull inherently has way less baggage, since each Indy film essentially acts as its own standalone adventure.

Never got around to TRoS because I genuinely fall asleep each time I try to sit through TLJ. I'm assuming it's bad.
 

Android Sophia

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Oct 25, 2017
6,194
Worst thing that came out of Crystal Skull was a mediocre Indiana Jones film and the amusing but nonsensical "nuke the fridge" scene.

Rise of Skywalker is forever going down as a massive blunder on the reputation of Star Wars, which is saying something regardless of how one feels about the movie.
 

Bor Gullet

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Oct 27, 2017
12,401
The first 40 or so minutes of Crystal Skull is fine. Once they get to South America is where it goes to shit. It progressively gets worse and worse.

Rise of Skywalker is bad all the way through.
 

ascii42

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Oct 25, 2017
5,823
Indiana Jones movies are fairly standalone, whereas Star Wars movies (with the exception of the original) are not. So the quality of one movie doesn't really influence the others. Whereas Rise of Skywalker is judged both on its own merits and as part of the sequel trilogy (and by extension, the saga as a whole). So it's a more difficult comparison to make than you'd initially think.
 

I am a Bird

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Oct 31, 2017
7,392
The rise of skywalker. It makes a mess of its own narrative and hurts the plot of the films before it.

Indiana Jones doesn't hurt the last three movies with its existence.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,756
I liked TRoS.

I liked Crystal Skull too, but Shia dragged that movie down. So Crystal Skull is worse.

Which is worse between The Last Jedi and Temple of Doom would have been a more interesting poll.
 

ProtomanNeo

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Oct 27, 2017
2,190
I found Crystal Skull to be for the most part enjoyable. Had it released in 98 instead of 08 it would have been much better received.
 

Tabaxi

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Nov 18, 2018
13,235
Crystal Skull is, at worst, a whatever adventure film. TROS is an absolute mess.

TROS, and it's not even close.
 

AgentOtaku

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Oct 27, 2017
4,467
Crystal Skull is mostly enjoyable and really technically well realized (outside of dodgy CG Tarzan jungle). It's got heart and charm. It the worst Indy film, but it's still mostly good. I look forward to the 4k UHD set this Summer.

Skywalker is a fucking hollow void and an utter embarrassment.
 

Gunny T Highway

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Oct 27, 2017
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TROS ruined the previous movies IMO.

Crystal Skull though not great did not retroactively make the previous movies worse.
 

cognizant

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Dec 19, 2017
13,757
Crystal Skull, while bad and boring, didn't really hurt the other movies in the series like TROS did. Indy 5 won't need to retcon any Crystal stuff and can safely ignore it completely. Disney are gonna be tiptoeing around TROS for a long while.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,424
Crystal Skull has some good bits here and there. The motorcycle sequence with Shia and Ford is great and Cate Blanchett is pretty fantastic in her role. Some ok adventure set pieces in general.

Rise of Skywalker is super dull the entire way through with little to no redeemable qualities.
 

BrickArts295

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Oct 26, 2017
14,077
Crystal is flawed yet coherent. Skywalker is just a damn mess. I could sit and watch it Crystal any day, Skywalker? Nah I'm good.
 

DustyVonErich

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Oct 31, 2017
2,910
Other: SW The Last Jedi was trash lol

But out of the the choices in the OP, I think TRoS was worse.

I actually like that Indy for the most part.
 

Android Sophia

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Oct 25, 2017
6,194
Nah, the monkey swinging action sequence was awful. That's the worst thing in the entire movie.

I actually just felt bad for the monkeys in that scene.

But honestly, everything about Crystal Skull is just kind of amusing if you turn you brain off and treat it for the nonsensical action film that it is. :P
 

Bard

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Oct 25, 2017
12,706
TROS manages to ruin all three trilogies of star wars in different ways.
 

Tansut

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Dec 16, 2017
2,559
Crystal Skull is massively flawed but well intended.

Skywalker is a cynical concession to the worst people in the fandom.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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TROS takes a wrecking ball to the series so Crystal Skull wins, it's not great by any means, it sort of works fine until they leave on the plane, before that, it's fairly good.
 

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Nov 8, 2017
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The Rise of Skywalker. Crystal Skull had a few fun moments, but had bad special effects and went too far with the camp. The Rise of Skywalker was the final chapter of a trilogy and had a lot riding on it, but managed to mess things up in every possible way. Crystal Skull is more of a standalone film and didn't really affect other Indiana Jones films.
 

eXistor

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Oct 27, 2017
12,419
There's a decent movie in Crystal Skull, it's just the basic premise (aliens) and several individual scenes that didn't work that bring it down. RoS was fucked from the start, that movie is such a mess.
 

Huey

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Oct 27, 2017
13,457
Crystal Skull has some terrible decisions and groan-worthy moments, but it's still a Spielberg film. ROS is just a bad film.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,058
I think some people have forgotten how bad Crystal Skull is. I'm not going to defend Rise of Skywalker but Crystal Skull just makes me annoyed when I think about it.