Get on Era's SELL/BUY/TRADE thread.
Grab 2 spots in a NINTENDO ONLINE FAMILY account.
Pay from 10/12$ for one full year subs
Profit ????
literally just bought a spot for 1 year sub for $6 from SpitfireKit [/spoiler]
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What is this absolute bullshit about individual vs family Nintendo Switch Online plans?
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Get on Era's SELL/BUY/TRADE thread.
Grab 2 spots in a NINTENDO ONLINE FAMILY account.
Pay from 10/12$ for one full year subs
Profit ????
literally just bought a spot for 1 year sub for $6 from SpitfireKit [/spoiler]
Yeah that's true but the service isn't very good imo. Not very compelling.
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That very much is the point. It is not possible, hence my hyperbolic frustration.
You're making a lot of assumptions*
In Australia the family sub is almost double that of the standard ($55 vs $30).
Yes, it's still cheaper than Plus (which I don't pay for anymore) and Gold, though I never expected them to match those prices as the Nintendo online service isn't very feature full.
*Though tbh, I also made assumptions that it would be similar to the competition, and that the cheap price was due to the lack of features.
For a family console, the setup they have for people with families is complete bullshit.
Want an online subscription for everyone? Pay more
Want to play animal crossing in your own island? Buy another copy or another switch
Want to allow your family members to play games on their account in a seperate console in the same same household? Tough shit.
Does you kid want to voice chat well playing splatoon with his friend? Sorry you'll need to get your 8 year old a cellphone.
Don't @ me with directions to the buy/sell. This shit doesn't need to be so stupidly complicated to save a few bucks. In fact none of this shit needs to be so complicated, the path has been set by the other guys just follow their lead.
Want an online subscription for everyone? Pay more
Want to play animal crossing in your own island? Buy another copy or another switch
Want to allow your family members to play games on their account in a seperate console in the same same household? Tough shit.
Does you kid want to voice chat well playing splatoon with his friend? Sorry you'll need to get your 8 year old a cellphone.
Don't @ me with directions to the buy/sell. This shit doesn't need to be so stupidly complicated to save a few bucks. In fact none of this shit needs to be so complicated, the path has been set by the other guys just follow their lead.
Bruh you didn't even pay for the service itself. You got it for free through Twitch. I could understand some frustration if you bought a whole year and didn't know about the family account. But no, you're hostile towards us for explaining it to you and ultimately spending an extra $15 for the entire year.
Sorry? Plenty of shit to complain about with Nintendo (friend codes, lack of system chat, archaic feeling online in first party games, etc), but to me this just isn't one of them.
Online is cheap and services one user. Family plan is cheaper than buying two single plans, and can be shared with up to 8(?). I've got myself, my wife, my brother-in-law, sister-in-law, and a close friend all on mine. It's a good deal, and it's advertised clearly.
But you don't have to do that with a PS+ Sub. You pay the sub in the primary account and all other accounts have access to it.
I will agree it's bullshit when you are using the same switch. In that case, only one switch is using the bandwidth. It's not costing Nintendo anything.
But I'm up to 3 switches in the house and it's a good deal. It's a major steal for anyone who's splitting it between 7 other people. And now that we have amazing apps to pay each other, it's probably easy as hell.
Shit, I could probably sell the other 5 slots. Hell, I could get people to pay $5 and cover most of the costs.
But I'm up to 3 switches in the house and it's a good deal. It's a major steal for anyone who's splitting it between 7 other people. And now that we have amazing apps to pay each other, it's probably easy as hell.
Shit, I could probably sell the other 5 slots. Hell, I could get people to pay $5 and cover most of the costs.
you DON'T need to buy a second copy of the game to have a second island
you need to buy a second system though...which is worse lol
and you CAN do this in an identical manner to other consoles
Lol. What a childish response. Don't even bother replying to me.
I could make the same thread about how PS Plus is $60/yr but doesn't match Nintendo letting 8 people play on 8 systems for $35/yr
The value isn't identical but that doesn't mean it's anti-consumer. It just means the business model is different.
LOL no kidding. The OP is making an angry thread over $15. I'm not exactly rich (I'm a teacher) but I wouldn't be UPSET like this over $15 lol.
Well yeah I'm coming from an American centric view, but to be fair so is the OP lol. I don't know anything about regional prices, though it seems like that Australian one is still roughly in the percentage increase as here (just for the Switch tiers, I mean).
But yeah, the thread doesn't seem to be about inherent value of the service as much as it's about a set price, hence most people being flabbergasted - it's the cheapest console online service, after all. And no matter which tier you pick, it's still the cheapest, even if you don't take advantage of family account sharing. Per the OPs needs, they should pony up the extra $15 for a family account and their needs would be met, but they're literally acting like that's impossible higher up this page. To be fair, maybe that can't be done with the free twitch memberships, I don't know.
Nope, games on the secondary console are locked to the primary account.
I'm a two switch 5 person household, I'm well aware of the limitations.
I had to resort to some serious fuckery just to make sure both me, my son and my daughter could play animal crossing involving making my sons switch lite the primary console (so he can use his account) and making my daughter use my account on the secondary account and then just playing on my son's switch lite on his island.
I love Nintendo games but holy shit guys none of this is excusable.
I don't think you can upgrade from the free memberships to the family plan and still get the promo offer, actually.
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That thread sounds fine to me - at $60/year, perhaps Sony should be letting 8 people play on 8 systems! Or 16! In fact, forget the $60/year!
This is how it works on PlayStation, I forgot that Xbox has another library sharing feature via Gold.
Edit: oh and they have something like that for Plus, too. The More You Know!
Edti2: no, wait, it's just a trumped up version of what Nintendo is doing
That's exactly how it works on the PlayStation. People seem to be conflating account game sharing with the online services, but those are not the same thing.
Yeah, it is on me with my situation. I didn't research it or understand it at the time, and was taken aback that Nintendo wanted me to pony up more cash just to let my roommate also play Animal Crossing online.
I did suck it up and go for the family sub in the end, though she will only ever use this for AC -_-
Nintendo too lets you share your user account's digital library on a secondary console, so you can have two accounts on two different consoles per 1 digital-game purchase.
What you don't share, even on the same primary console, are standard Nintendo Online subs: even if it's just for two accounts it makes more sense to buy the Family sub at $35 a year then (since $20 x 2 = $40), and that one is valid for 8 accounts. You can gift or resell the remaining free spots.
I signed up since day1 and renewed and I've paid $8 the first year and 12$ to renew for my 2 accounts, so 20$ total for 2 years of NO on two accounts and I can play online coop with only 1 digital purchase.
plus I have another 1 year aside that came with my physical copy of Tetris 99 for $19.
Doesn't sound that bad to me?
On the other hand I paid $55 for my PS+ where I only use 1 account/1 console.
OT:
Tho quality wise the last few months of PS+ titles have finally been as great as PS3 golden era (this month I don't care for the selection and I already own CS on Xbox)
By all means go ahead. I'm not trying to defend any business model; paying for online is already stupid enough no matter which service you're paying for (XBL, PS+ or NSO) and adding to Nintendo's overall incompetence in this space and I can sort of relate to how the OP is feeling. Yes, the service is really cheap but there are certain features one can sort of expect coming from another ecosystem.
Idk. I'd love a cheaper version of Plus that assumes only one person will use it. Because I agree: it's dumb to pay for online and I'd prefer to pay as little as possible.
but that option doesn't exist.
I feel like that's a way more reasonable thing to be annoyed about as a nickel-and-dime scheme vs. Nintendo actually having a cheaper subscription for a single user. It's just a matter of perspective in the end, but that's always how I've looked at it.
I can't relate because he didn't pay for anything and is using the service for free and basically wants more of it for free without paying.
Family plans are super cheap and can be shared with multiple people. There is value in the plan, even if you don't see the value.
on the other hand it'd be nice if Sony offered a cheaper option even if it was as barebones as the current NSO offering (minus the NES and SNES catalog). Some people just wanna play online and 60 bucks a year is still somewhat pricey (granted it's possible to get deals sometimes but that's the case with NSO too)
If we were to assume charging for online in the first place wasn't bullshit then the single vs. family plan would be fine especially in comparison to the more expensive offerings of Xbox and Playstation. But yeah charging for online is and will remain inherently bullshit no matter how normalised it gets. Which makes it all bullshit regardless lol.
That isn't true anymore (since Xbox One I believe). One Xbox Gold (or Ultimate) account provides Gold access to every profile on the Xbox. I have an Xbox Ultimate account while my two kids don't and they are able to play online no problem (even at the same time on different consoles).
That being said, the Nintendo Family plan is a fair deal for what it is I think... although I haven't signed up yet as my boys haven't really needed to play anything online on the Switch yet.
Eh, scammed is a harsh word that I don't know I'd use in this situation, lol. I don't remember if this situation is explicitly stated on the TOS.
I'd love a cheaper version of PS+, too. Like, I could probably do without the "free" games on each month; it would also save me the headache of looking at their "free" games and thinking they're trash.
So, basically you're saying he shouldn't complain because he got it for free? I dunno. This has been the first impression for all of us in terms what Nintendo can and will do with their online service and things can only get better if people start pointing out dumb issues with the service like the OP said. I share my sub with 7 other people, paying less than let's say the majority of the NSO subscribers. Can't I relate with the OP because I paid a lot less than him?
OP, I just checked my account to see if I had any spots left to give one to your wife, but I am legitimately maxed out at 8!
I gave away half of those slots to my students who didn't have NSO so they can have some Smash Online matches with their friends during quarantine.
Look at this as an opportunity. You can buy a Family Account and just gift all the extra slots to other people!
I gave away half of those slots to my students who didn't have NSO so they can have some Smash Online matches with their friends during quarantine.
Look at this as an opportunity. You can buy a Family Account and just gift all the extra slots to other people!
That's nice. I never played on xbone, so I was going off 360 era
I... don't understand why OP is angry about. Does NSO sucks? Yes, it does. But at least it is cheap. Even more with family plan.
The comparisons to XBL and PS+ seem a little disingenuous, or to be more charitable, ignorant. They are significantly better value propositions than Nintendo's online offering so it's not surprising that they're more expensive. (They also regularly go on sale but that just muddies the comparison)
Same
We have multiple switches too so my son and I game share. I bought one copy of animal crossing and we can both play and visit each others islands using the family plan.
Yeah there is. Just select it from the NSO membership screen. It will prorate it based on time left, and you'll either owe the difference or lose some time if you have stacked years. At least that's how it works in the US.
Not everyone values the extra perks they offer, though. Some people just care about the core feature of being able to play with their friends online.
You and I are probably the sort of people who claim every "free" PS+ game, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were very much in the minority on that. A lot of my friends don't. They just want to play their Destiny or whatever.
i find it hard paying any amount of money for nintendo online services. period. but i do anyways
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That is, legitimately, a good idea. I'm gonna be passing this shit out like candy to any of my friends who don't have it.
Yep. This seems like one of the strangest things to get upset about. Their online service is fantastic value imo due to the SNES games alone and the fact I got mine for 1/3 of the price I pay for PS+