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Osahi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,948
When I worked in gaming retail:

No, I don't play a single minute of a game during my hours. At the most I'm 'playing' to see if a console or controller someone is bringing in to sell or get fixed is working or not.

As a game critic:

I fucking wish I was payed under the table (or over) for good reviews.

As a screenwriter:

If I hear someone going on about 'a plan' one more time I'll lose my shit.
 

Bjorn

Member
Feb 11, 2018
964
Denmark
And in time it will be able to. I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years we have something close to a perfect universal translator. Like, 20-years-ago we didn't even have maps of the entire planet at our finger tips and relied on paper or very horrible satellite GPS that cost a fortune.
Depending on the field/subject, that already exists today. Some of the big video game companies already exclusively use machine translation today with optional post editing.

The gap in quality between Google Translate and professional, tailored engines is staggering. Obviously I don't tell my clients I'm impressed with their tech.
 

legend166

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,113
Networking. Not to justify some of the obvious price gouging that goes on with data caps, but people seem to think bandwidth is free and infinite.

Also, "a series of tubes" isn't the worst way to explain the internet to an 80 year old congressman.
 
Nov 8, 2017
3,532
Idk, you can definitely spoil yourself with Linux distros and customization, but Win10 is a pretty usable OS imo.
I find it infuriating to be honest. I recently set up a dual boot just to play a few games, and every now and then it boots to some bullshit about "Let's finish setting up your device" with no option to tell it to fuck off my device is already working fine. And that's just one example of Windows being horrible. There are others, like having to install third-party software to get a usable Start menu and needing to edit the registry to make the clock work properly.
 

Jonnax

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,952
I find it infuriating to be honest. I recently set up a dual boot just to play a few games, and every now and then it boots to some bullshit about "Let's finish setting up your device" with no option to tell it to fuck off my device is already working fine. And that's just one example of Windows being horrible. There are others, like having to install third-party software to get a usable Start menu and needing to edit the registry to make the clock work properly.


You needed to edit the registry to make the clock work properly? So a billion+ people have a broken clock?

Also what feature did you require in an alternative start menu? The start menu is a bunch of links organised in folders. With a section where you can pin apps as tiles.

And isn't the setting up decide screen someone that you click though saying no a few times?

No offense intended but Linux users have the most dubious complaints when windows/osx doesn't behave how they want it to😄
 
Oct 27, 2017
8,782
At my workplace, CNC machinists are seen as "you just push button and stand around all day".

Yes, when the job is finally properly set up, coordinates/offsets are defined, tools are set, program is edited etc etc. Only after the first piece does it become a "just push button" job.
 

Syriel

Banned
Dec 13, 2017
11,088
With just my cursory knowledge of ballet, my understanding is that it is hard as FUCK.

I decided to see if I could do en pointe for funsies or see how far I could get... Elected to stop such as to not break my toes.

You need special shoes to go on pointe. You don't just do it barefoot.

Web design: Scrolling bad, navigating billions of pages good

Infinite scroll webpages are the devil's work.

I find it infuriating to be honest. I recently set up a dual boot just to play a few games, and every now and then it boots to some bullshit about "Let's finish setting up your device" with no option to tell it to fuck off my device is already working fine.

You probably installed a milestone update. Did you do your base install from an old build that you had on hand? Windows 10 is like Linux in this case. Major updates sometimes introduce new functionality.

And that's just one example of Windows being horrible. There are others, like having to install third-party software to get a usable Start menu...

The Start menu works like it did in Windows 95, and XP, and 7. The functionality has been copied by a lot of Linux distros, so I wouldn't call it unusable. A lot of folks like it.

...and needing to edit the registry to make the clock work properly.

This just isn't true. Even if your motherboard can't keep time properly, NTP keeps the Windows 10 clock synced.
 

RocketKiss

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
4,691
Nurses are heroes yet most aren't getting hazard pay during a pandemic. and all essential workers for that matter
 
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Oct 27, 2017
1,147
Finland
That to be a programmer/software developer, you need to be good at maths.
Was gonna say this.

There are obviously also developer roles where math has a really heavy focus, but in most developer roles you won't need any "traditional" math skills. You just need to understand basic logic.

As a journalist: it doesn't matter how obvious who committed the crime, there has to be an "allegedly" there and it's not just so the newspaper can avoid a lawsuit in the future. Nobody wants defense attorneys to use the press as proof of jury contamination.
This is really good to bring up.

I can understand the frustration in a lot of cases for example when a newspaper doesn't call out blatantly evil things as that but as "alleged", but it's just the nature of how journalism works.
 

turbobutts

Member
Oct 25, 2017
519
You needed to edit the registry to make the clock work properly? So a billion+ people have a broken clock?

some windows 10 update recently made all the PCs in my office start displaying seconds (so like 06:24:54) and I couldn't figure out how to change them back without going into the registry. The settings you think would fix it weren't working. Maybe he's referring to that?
 

fanboi

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,702
Sweden
That to be a programmer/software developer, you need to be good at maths. Also that software developers are the best people to help you fix your computer (I hardly use Windows except for work, and we have an IT department to fix anything that goes wrong with my work laptop).


As someone who has used Linux almost exclusively for the last 20 years, I find Windows 10 to be horrible.

As somone who used Windows 10 since launch and windows products exclusively for the last 20 years, I find Linux to be horrible.
 

Westbahnhof

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
10,108
Austria
some windows 10 update recently made all the PCs in my office start displaying seconds (so like 06:24:54) and I couldn't figure out how to change them back without going into the registry. The settings you think would fix it weren't working. Maybe he's referring to that?
Your perogative of course, but why did you change it back? Seems neat
 

Easy_G

Member
Dec 11, 2017
1,683
California
At my workplace, CNC machinists are seen as "you just push button and stand around all day".

Yes, when the job is finally properly set up, coordinates/offsets are defined, tools are set, program is edited etc etc. Only after the first piece does it become a "just push button" job.

That's a good one. One machinist I worked with made it into his own joke about constantly injuring his index finger pressing the go button.

I'm an engineer, and I've definitely spent months working with a machinist to get a CNC program perfect. It was an incredibly intricate part with extreme cutting depths and surface finish requirements on a program usually running 8-12 hours. It took so many trials of cutting tool size, speeds and feeds, direction of travel, fixturing, etc. I think CNC takes a lot of the artisan part of machining away, but it also has pushed the ceiling for requirements higher. So the same amount of overall work gets better results. It's like saying computers have made office work easier, when it really just means we have to do more now in the same time.
 

345

Member
Oct 30, 2017
7,444
that journalists get paid for clicks, or even care about them.

i don't know of any vaguely credible media organisation post-gawker that structured pay like that, and gawker itself was a notable outlier that only did things that way for a brief period. most journalists i know are more concerned with convincing editors to publish the nichest possible stuff within their publications' purview because it's what they want to write about.
 

turbobutts

Member
Oct 25, 2017
519
Your perogative of course, but why did you change it back? Seems neat
it was driving everyone in my office crazy for some reason, and I'm the only computer/technology literate person in the company so I get all their stupid complaints when literally any program or something doesn't act how they want/expect it to. A non-insignificant portion of my time is spent re-teaching a coworker how to add text to .pdfs or point at things with arrows using Acrobat's comment tools
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,618
Spain
Economics, with a focus in academia. People think it's finance or banking, or that it's about "learning how to make a lot of money". It's not finance or banking, and it's about how other people try to make a lot of money. Really annoying stuff.
 

Ryuelli

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,209
Contrary to popular belief, teachers aren't indoctrinating your kids to become tolerant socialists.
 
Nov 8, 2017
3,532
This just isn't true. Even if your motherboard can't keep time properly, NTP keeps the Windows 10 clock synced.
Yes it is true. Linux expects the system clock to be set to UTC (as it should be), and the time displayed by Linux is an offset from that based on your time zone. On the other hand, Windows expects the system clock to be set to local time (which is stupid), so when I have my system set up correctly and I boot into Windows, the time is not correct.

It's possible to tell Linux that the system clock is set to local time, but then I need to boot to Windows to update the system clock whenever going in or out of daylight saving time, which again is stupid because why should I need to use Windows to have my time set correctly on Linux? (obviously you don't want both OS's applying the DST otherwise you end up with the wrong time).

The only solution is a registry edit that tells Windows that the system time is in UTC, which is how it should be in the first place.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Print publishing. That the journalist with the 'author' credit wrote their own printed headline and chose images, captions and standfirst etc. When it's usually a combination of professional headline writers, desk heads, sub-editors, the picture editor, art editor and the editor tweaking it for one reason or another throughout the process. Where covers and features are concerned, also art staff (like me) complaining that the initial proposed headline (often by the section editor), pictures and layout don't work. Or we just bin it and paste in some filler latin text to fit the layout we want and let the subs fix it (they love that /s). Or if there are multiple words that make an awkward fit on the page given the headline size, or that juxtaposition with the story next to it is an issue. Like where you have a large image of one individual with a small story of something harmless they've done, and a large headline of a different story above it talking about criminal activity that says 'fraudster locked up' or whatever. Neither journalist has seen the other story, one was likely on page and being subbed before the other was even filed, and if we are lucky, the subs, the art desk, the section editor or editor pick it up before it gets printed and we all groan. It's all a collaborative process. I enjoy the debates over typography between the subs (who are real wordsmiths) and the art staff (who are editorial typographic designers) when we geek out over style guides, fonts and punctuation etc, and there is always a mistake if we look hard enough.

Also, the wildly different libel/defamation law between the US and UK.
 
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Feb 24, 2018
5,306
Can't say I can think of any for me personally, it irks me to no end there are people who STILL think people who work in retail, cashiers, fast food etc MUST have flunked School or didn't go to university... Like just how do people still believe that?

Also while not in the field, it's one that's still affect me and that's the sheer amount of nonsense and stigma towards psychology and therapy, too much media vilifies it, calls it useless or pointless or dismisses it as a lesser science... When it's clear the people saying it or the writers in media case don't really know what their talking about like at all and believe it's all (a poor understanding) of Freud who's work is archaic at this point in many ways.

I've had people be straight up angry at me for pointing that pr debunking some myths because it goes against their pre-concieved views and it bothers so much, especially when mental health issues are so important and not treated with the care and seriousness needed in the public and media.
 

Dealer A

Member
Jan 13, 2018
662
I work in upstream oil and gas and one of my favorite things to do is to sit and listen to a lay person explain to me how fracking works and why it is bad.
 

Apathy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,992
I work in telecom, and people thinking that blazing fast/affordable 5g is right around the corner, 2 weeks from now, and that it will solve everything. Yeah, good luck with that. This ties back to people thinking game streaming is going to just take off

Oh and if you use Xfinity products, I hate them as much as you do. Also the reason Disney+ isnt on it (and it's a huge headache for us in the telecom world that partner with Comcast) is cause all these apps require contracts and in this case Comcast didn't originally why Disney+ cause they have Peacock to push, but they underestimated how much their own customers and partner customers wanted it. And if an app isn't working (looking at your Prime video subtitles in German when I click English), it's not an issue of the telecom, it's an issue with Amazon and whoever makes their app. We've submitted and pushed Amazon to fix it, they haven't.
 
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Nisaba

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,942
Canada
I research in Astrophysics, studying galaxies in Astronomy!

When I say what I do, the amount of people who come up to me asking me to read their horoscopes or tell them which zodiac sign they are compatible with or other such nonsense is staggering. Too many people actually believe that the false pseudoscience of astrology actually impacts their lives in some way.

No....the position of the moon in the sky on the day of your birth does not influence your personality or life in any way.

And then when you try to helpfully educate people on how astrology isn't real, they get annoyed and angry at you.
 

fanboi

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,702
Sweden
I research in Astrophysics, studying galaxies in Astronomy!

When I say what I do, the amount of people who come up to me asking me to read their horoscopes or tell them which zodiac sign they are compatible with or other such nonsense is staggering. Too many people actually believe that the false pseudoscience of astrology actually impacts their lives in some way.

No....the position of the moon in the sky on the day of your birth does not influence your personality or life in any way.

And then when you try to helpfully educate people on how astrology isn't real, they get annoyed and angry at you.

Tell that to the Khajit!
Funny enough a tinder girl asked about my horoscope yesterday and I was apparently a perfect match for her ox.
 

CaviarMeths

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,655
Western Canada
It's astounding how many people do not understand that a hotel's rate is a nightly rate, not a 24-hour rate or a calendar date rate. I had a frequent guest who was staying for about a week at a time for work regularly try to come check in after midnight because he thought it meant his first night would be free. What.

Also there's no discount if you annoy me by checking in at 6am and haggle about late checkouts because you're "only staying for 6 hours." You're paying to take a room off the inventory. Whether you use that room for 2 hours or 12, nobody else can use that room until the housekeeping staff, who work set hours, get in to clean it. You pay full price.
 

Jakten

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,773
Devil World, Toronto
I make video games and am an animator so like %90 of everything I do is commonly misunderstood to the point of having a hard time finding a job that will even pay me to people wishing I was horribly mutilated and dead. Which has happened a number of times, but anyway:

- Art should be done for free because it's fun.
- Art should be made fast because it's all doodles anyways.
- If you can't doodle a perfectly realistic drawing in a couple of minutes you're a bad artist. (And don't deserve to be paid. I'll still use it though)
- Any art that isnt realistic or doesn't conform to realistic standards is low skill bad art.
- Thanks to computers giving people the ability to cycle frame by frame now you get amazing stuff like: Animators that rely on inbetween frames are lazy or bad artists.
- Actually, animators that rely on any of the fundamentals of animation are bad artists who are trying to cover up the fact that they don't know how to draw realistically or draw smooth inbetweens.
- Modern 2D Animation should be drawn at 60fps because we have the "technology now" (Also all hand drawn with no short cuts, and highly detailed, of course)
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- Anime is harder to draw than western animation, so western animators are less skilled. Without taking into account budgets, frame rates, target audience, etc. etc. (Though overall Japanese animators are paid far, far less than they should be among other abuses)
- Games and animation are bad because the artists who made them are malicious, evil or greedy and purposely wanted to slight you.
- Games and animation are bad because the artists who made them are lazy or unskilled.
- Games and animation are not bad because the people with the money refused to give the artists the time or money to complete a competent product despite the artists constantly bringing up how things will go wrong and look like crap.
- Achieveing 60fps comes at no consequence or significant loss of (sometimes the more interesting) content from the game. Often due to the point above.
- The unskilled artists are the ones making all the bad visual decisions and not company higher-ups who believes everything I listed above.
- Actually if you want to get into misconceptions of art with regards to the money people you get doozys like "Don't use purple because it makes you gay".

But yeah, there's a lot more but I'm tired.
 

THErest

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,138
Yeah. I've even had project managers say this when I say that I'm bad at math.

I don't even know where it comes from tbh.

I mean, what kind of math are we talking about? What does "good at math" mean?


If you're programming, even just starting out, you have to at least have a decent understanding of discrete math (whether you realize it or not), otherwise those logic statements and for loops and such wouldn't make any sense to you.
 

julia crawford

Took the red AND the blue pills
Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,502
I mean, what kind of math are we talking about? What does "good at math" mean?

If you're programming, even just starting out, you have to at least have a decent understanding of discrete math (whether you realize it or not), otherwise those logic statements and for loops and such wouldn't make any sense to you.

I guess they often mean more complex stuff like matrices and integration and all that kind of fucked up shit. That's what usually comes up in conversation.

Also, quick calculations with your brain, like being able to do multiplications of big numbers on demand. Those are the ones i usually get.
 

werezompire

Zeboyd Games
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
11,500
On the tax thing, I imagine it's mostly a joke about how overly complicated US taxes are and not to be taken literally. It's something that should be easily done, but instead for a lot of people, it's so complicated that there's an entire industry around it.

As someone who is self-employed, it's caused me no end of stress. I've tried several accountants and it's usually gone badly - either the accountant seemed incompetent or was hard to work with (one that we tried kept being sexist & condescending to my wife & kept trying to talk to me instead, even though at the time, my wife was the one who handled our finances). We had one accountant that after meeting with us several times, told us that our stuff was too complicated for him and he couldn't do it, thus wasting all that time we had met with him. I eventually gave up and did the taxes myself through one of the online services, but I was constantly stressed that I was messing up and either paying too much or too little. This year is the first year that I've actually felt good about the taxes - a friend suggested an accountant that they had had success with, I contacted them and they did a good job in a reasonable amount of time at a reasonable fee.
 

Runner

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,745
Its a popular beleif that Y2K wasnt a big deal. It really was but it didnt appear to be thanks to so much work.
 

Exellus

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,348
That because I'm a software developer, I will know how to fix my Uncle's broken PC that runs really slow.
 

Shadybiz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,137
On the tax thing, I imagine it's mostly a joke about how overly complicated US taxes are and not to be taken literally. It's something that should be easily done, but instead for a lot of people, it's so complicated that there's an entire industry around it.

As someone who is self-employed, it's caused me no end of stress. I've tried several accountants and it's usually gone badly - either the accountant seemed incompetent or was hard to work with (one that we tried kept being sexist & condescending to my wife & kept trying to talk to me instead, even though at the time, my wife was the one who handled our finances). We had one accountant that after meeting with us several times, told us that our stuff was too complicated for him and he couldn't do it, thus wasting all that time we had met with him. I eventually gave up and did the taxes myself through one of the online services, but I was constantly stressed that I was messing up and either paying too much or too little. This year is the first year that I've actually felt good about the taxes - a friend suggested an accountant that they had had success with, I contacted them and they did a good job in a reasonable amount of time at a reasonable fee.

Yeah, I think that MOST people probably get that it's a joke. If you get audited and it's found that you underpaid, the IRS will generally work with you, put you on a payment plan, etc. It's when they find that you deliberately fudged the numbers that you get in real trouble.

Taxes for the self-employed can indeed be a pain in the ass. My wife used to be a massage therapist with her own practice. She had to have a CPA do hers each year. Regular W2 employees like myself can just plug that shit into Turbotax and be done with it.
 

danmaku

Member
Nov 5, 2017
3,237
- Anime is harder to draw than western animation, so western animators are less skilled. Without taking into account budgets, frame rates, target audience, etc. etc. (Though overall Japanese animators are paid far, far less than they should be among other abuses)

That's funny because a common myth in the 80s and 90s was that Japanese cartoons were made "with computers" while Western cartoons were hand drawn and thus superior.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
not me, but wanted to answer for my mom who is a teacher.

"Teachers are just lazy and want to get paid to stay home and work less."

As my mom had to learn a completely new skill with computers and zoom, having to use dual monitors, buy a new keyboard and that 2nd monitor with her own money.

But yeah, sure lets go with my almost 70 year old mother is lazy and just wants to stay home during a pandemic. And ive seen this sentiment fucking thousands of times since covid started.
Also this for professors. And people assume we make a lot. We do not.
 

mddover

Member
Jan 9, 2019
201
In linguistics it's probably that we spend our time learning how to speak a bunch of different languages. A common joke/complaint that linguists make is that whenever they mention their field, they are always asked "how many languages do you speak?"

Some linguists appear to be genuinely annoyed by these different understandings of what 'linguistics' means, but I don't think it's a big deal. Based on a couple minutes of googling, the 'linguist as person who learns many languages' meaning may be the older one anyway.
 
Nov 23, 2017
868
As someone majoring in Geography with an emphasis on GIS, Geography isn't learning about all the countries of the world and their capitols. Geography is the bridge of all sciences, social and physical. And GIS is used in every sector out there... If you have a location and information about said location, it can be displayed on a GIS map. No matter your field of interest, a basic intro into GIS can up your skill set in the real world.