Because no one knew he was still alive at that point. Remember he got discovered by accidentCaptain America is my least liked Avenger so I was hoping he was already dead, looks the ending of the episode implies the opposite. He's the one original Avenger that is alive which Hank didn't have to kill?
You'll never see Hulk exploding like that on live action without getting R rating, I still can't believe they did it in animation, lolVery fun episode.
The one animated show they make is the thing i'd most like to see in live action 😕
Dunno, I'm sure he'd be super mad over knowing Thor was killed by some random EarthlingReally fun episode. I guess by the time Loki gets to Earth Odin has already fall into the Odinsleep cause He would definitely not approve an invasion.
Really need a part 2 for this. Be cool to see how Carol and Steve handle everything going forward.
Vision, Antman, War Machine, possibly Black Panther whose father would never die, wouldn't exist. Spiderman and Strange would stay hidden without Stark, Thor, and Banner.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch would probably be recruited.
Would Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch even exist? Weren't they a byproduct of tesseract shenanigans which Loki probably still has hold of?
Daredevil about to be reconfirmed as canon. Don't worry, AoS is coming. ;)
Unfortunately the budget would be astronomical. You'd get far less outlandish concepts with a far smaller cast.Very fun episode.
The one animated show they make is the thing i'd most like to see in live action 😕
- Yeah, Vision wouldn't exist & Scott Lang wouldn't get the suit.
- I think Rhodey had already taken the Mk. II armor by that point in Iron Man 2, so maybe he'd still be War Machine.
- T'Challa became Black Panther in 2008 when T'Chaka was too old to do it himself, so he'd be available.
- Peter didn't get his powers yet, so they can't get to him at the time. Likewise, Strange's car accident didn't happen yet.
- That said, The Ancient One would be available & was active during the Battle of New York in the Sacred Timeline.
I figured when Betty said something about the small projectile then all the kills made senseThe second they said "we didn't see anyone go into Barton's room", I figured it was something Ant-Man related. Though I was wavering on whether it was Hank as Yellowjacket, or Hope became the Red Queen
Fun episode.
There is something really unsettling with how the Hulk exploded the way he did. O_O
He's the one who sent him there powerless in the first place. He'd probably feel more self-hatred and guilt than anything else.Dunno, I'm sure he'd be super mad over knowing Thor was killed by some random Earthling
They've been gradually making less of a point to outright specify what's causing these "What If" branches. First it was The Watcher narrating that Peggy deciding to take the serum did it, then young T'Challa wandering outside of Wakanda, both with specific consequences contained in their universes. No major "nexus" decision of the sort was really explicit in this one unless I'm missing it, outside of Hope joining SHIELD in this universe.
That's the thing tho. You have to think about the butterfly effect of this.
With so many heroes KIA they have no chance of defeating Thanos in this reality(even with Captian Marvel) and even less of a chance of reversing the snap.
That seems nice and all but you forgot one thing:On the contrary... Loki rules Earth and he clearly has an Asgardian army with him. You could assume that Thor's death makes Odin go to sleep out of grief, meaning Loki is Asgard's King. Even if Odin dies at some point in the years following, Loki did tell Hela that they could come to an arrangement. Perhaps he gives her the throne of Asgard in return for him staying as King of Earth.
When the Black Order shows up on Earth to claim the Mind and Time Gems, Loki will already know they're coming and he doesn't seem to antagonistic towards Fury or Earth. Chances are Carol Danvers and whatever Avengers are recruited will be backed by Asgard itself, including Hela, when Thanos makes his move. He'd never attack Asgard first and, without Thor forcing Ragnarok to happen, it'll still be standing when Thanos decides to grab the Space Gem so he'd have to leave it until later.
The Black Order is not getting either of the Infinity Gems from Earth in that scenario, nor is Stephen Strange ending up on Titan or handing the Time Gem to Thanos to save Tony Stark's life. In fact Thanos will probably have to come to Earth himself but he'd only have, at best, the Power, Reality and Soul Gems. That'll never be enough to claim the Mind, Time and Space Gems.
Loki, Hela, Danvers, Strange, other Avengers and the army of Asgard would utterly crush Thanos, his Black Order and his army.
That's the thing tho. You have to think about the butterfly effect of this.
- Avengers 1 shouldn't happen. Loki will get curbstumped by Carol, then locked in the Raft, with no Thor to drag him back to Asgard. He might slink away, but ultimately with no Thor the Dark Elves win, then Hella destroys everyone later.
- Age of Ultron can't happen.
- Winter Soldier will play out similarly. Falcon should still be recruited as well as Bucky, who Steve will likely seek out when Thanos invades.
-T'challa's father will have no reason to come to the US for the nonexistent Accords, as the Hulk doesn't freak out in AoU. I doubt Micheal B Jordan comes back with the King still alive. T'challa never gets his reason to step up as a leader, and never meets the Avengers.
-Dr Strange is unknown to everyone expect Thor. As the events of Ragnorok can't occur, he never meets Thor, and Heimdal never sends Banner to him. Wang and Strange are defeated, and Strange is tortured and killed for the time stone. Tho possibly, Carol could destroy the ship if she stays and is within flying distance.
With so many heroes KIA they have no chance of defeating Thanos in this reality(even with Captian Marvel) and even less of a chance of reversing the snap.
It's fun thinking about the butterfly effects. What if this happens, then this happens instead or doesn't happen as a result.
Wasn't the Nexus event in the first episode Peggy staying in the room instead of leaving?They've been gradually making less of a point to outright specify what's causing these "What If" branches. First it was The Watcher narrating that Peggy deciding to take the serum did it, then young T'Challa wandering outside of Wakanda, both with specific consequences contained in their universes. No major "nexus" decision of the sort was really explicit in this one unless I'm missing it, outside of Hope joining SHIELD in this universe.
Wasn't the Nexus event in the first episode Peggy staying in the room instead of leaving?
-Dr Strange is unknown to everyone expect Thor. As the events of Ragnorok can't occur, he never meets Thor, and Heimdal never sends Banner to him. Wang and Strange are defeated, and Strange is tortured and killed for the time stone. Tho possibly, Carol could destroy the ship if she stays and is within flying distance.
With so many heroes KIA they have no chance of defeating Thanos in this reality(even with Captian Marvel) and even less of a chance of reversing the snap.
They will, going by the trailers we can see a take on The Avengers iconic shot but with Captain Carter, T'Challa Star-Lord, Gamora with Thanos' Endgame armor, among othersIt's fun thinking about the butterfly effects. What if this happens, then this happens instead or doesn't happen as a result.
I hope they touch back on some of these episodes in the future because they really leave me wanting more but who knows.
Not really that one, since IW is immediately after Ragnarok so Thanos wouldn't have had the time for it probably 🤔Without the events of Ragnarok, the Asgardians are still around to protect the dwarves and thus Thanos can't get them to construct the infinity gauntlet for him though. I may be jumping the gun here as I haven't watched the latest episode yet, but I'm always intrigued by the fact that Ragnarok is so pivotal to Thanos's plans.
They've been gradually making less of a point to outright specify what's causing these "What If" branches. First it was The Watcher narrating that Peggy deciding to take the serum did it, then young T'Challa wandering outside of Wakanda, both with specific consequences contained in their universes. No major "nexus" decision of the sort was really explicit in this one unless I'm missing it, outside of Hope joining SHIELD in this universe.
I could be mistaken, but I always presumed the dwarves being wiped out was because Loki was shit as King of Asgard and wasn't properly protecting people. Loki rules Asgard from end of 2013 until 2017, and I figured Thanos "I'll do it myself" post credits scene was set before Ragnarok begins.Without the events of Ragnarok, the Asgardians are still around to protect the dwarves and thus Thanos can't get them to construct the infinity gauntlet for him though. I may be jumping the gun here as I haven't watched the latest episode yet, but I'm always intrigued by the fact that Ragnarok is so pivotal to Thanos's plans.
That's the thing tho. You have to think about the butterfly effect of this.
- Avengers 1 shouldn't happen. Loki will get curbstumped by Carol, then locked in the Raft, with no Thor to drag him back to Asgard. He might slink away, but ultimately with no Thor the Dark Elves win, then Hella destroys everyone later.
- Age of Ultron can't happen.
- Winter Soldier will play out similarly. Falcon should still be recruited as well as Bucky, who Steve will likely seek out when Thanos invades.
-T'challa's father will have no reason to come to the US for the nonexistent Accords, as the Hulk doesn't freak out in AoU. I doubt Micheal B Jordan comes back with the King still alive. T'challa never gets his reason to step up as a leader, and never meets the Avengers.
-Dr Strange is unknown to everyone expect Thor. As the events of Ragnorok can't occur, he never meets Thor, and Heimdal never sends Banner to him. Wang and Strange are defeated, and Strange is tortured and killed for the time stone. Tho possibly, Carol could destroy the ship if she stays and is within flying distance.
With so many heroes KIA they have no chance of defeating Thanos in this reality(even with Captian Marvel) and even less of a chance of reversing the snap.
Yes, we can appreciate it.Can I appreciate Coulson's bisexual energy? That is a man with a healthy appreciation for beautiful men and I love it.
That's fair. What I would have hoped would be that in this alt universe, he didn't survive being in the ice for 70 years like the main one.Because no one knew he was still alive at that point. Remember he got discovered by accident
Theoretically both episode 2 and 3 can occupy the same universe. So rather than T'Challa stepping up he'd be in space. It would also explain the Collector having easy access to something like Mjolnir rather than outright defeating Thor.
1 and 3 cannot because Barton is dead here and he was in that scene with Fury at the end.
That, and the fact that Fury's recovering Cap at the end, not Carter. Also, I think it's reasonable to assume that Captain Marvel doesn't exist in the Carter universe, since the tesserect would've taken a much different journey in that universe.