Neil Gaiman just having some fun with the trolls who are angry about Sandman casting.
Seems to have started here...
Which led to this...
And then to this.
Seems to have started here...
Which led to this...
And then to this.
Whining about a non-binary Desire just proves you ain't read the comic
Pretty clear a lot of the complaints are from people who haven't read Sandman.
Pretty clear a lot of the complaints are from people who haven't read Sandman.
Fuck you person on Twitter shaming Xenogears by having an Id handle and picture while spouting that bullshit.
...but which at the time must've been very progressive and subversive.
Pretty clear a lot of the complaints are from people who haven't read Sandman.
Hasn't Death always been (when not faceless/masked) presented as an (to an extent androgynous) female/feminine in Sandman?
I'm confused at what exactly people are mad about - Desire has also, as far back as I can recall, been non-binary in Sandman, because desire applies to (almost) everyone?
The actress they cast for Death is black, so, uhh, yeah, you can probably imagine.
(But a ton of complaints are that Death's been genderswapped, or that they're casting Desire as nonbinary, which are clearly idiots hopping on an outrage bandwagon without even bothering to google what it is they're complaining about.)
If it makes you feel better, I am 99% certain these clowns have never even read a single page of The Sandman.
Sandman is great. There's definitely some story points that haven't aged well but it was more because Gaiman was aiming to present progressive ideas and missed the mark (which I'm pretty sure he's been on record saying if he wrote those parts with the knowledge he has now they would've definitely been different). Honestly it's why it's funny that people would even suggest that Sandman was some unpolitical manly comic.
Fucking idiots.
As for progressive all I have to say is while I have nitpicks (rather masculine art that could play into "man in a dress" stereotypes, not being able to go to cuckoo land with the other women because the moon refuses to recognize her based on biology being my biggest gripes)Wanda was one of the few trans characters of the time that didn't make me want to kill myself or someone else, and even with those gripes (which I am sure Neil would probably do different today) still better than a lot of trans rep now especially in mainstream comics.
Fuck these clowns.
Guy said we are better off without George Floyd. So he probably got suspended for being a super racist POS
Yeah, that's why I say I have mixed feelings. And that ultimately even with the problematic stuff it's still one of the better representations out there that made me feel good about myself (especially as at the time not only was most mainstream depictions of trans people horrible, but I was still in my late teens/early twenties and slumming on the street with ultimate toxic masculinity types, would have been a bad scene even if I had been a cis heteronormative type so as a deeply closeted trans person Wanda was still very important to me at the time) and I didn't even need Neil saying it to be super sure he would do things differently.Should be noted that death appears as other ethnicities in the comics, including an African tribe and chinese
Gaiman said in a blog once that he regret some of the choices with wanda, and that was a reference to a particularly TERFy subset of wiccans which idolizes the e moon that he discovered through trans friends in the 80's
Death seeing Wanda as a woman is all you need to know that gaiman said fuck TERFs before it was cool
edit:
link to the blog post which is actually a tumblr post
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I suspect part of the problem is that people don't read Sandman in historic context. And mostly, they shouldn't need to. It would have seemed ridiculous when I started writing it to think that that...neil-gaiman.tumblr.com