Nothing against melee but that would be a different game.
What do you want from Horizon Zero Dawn Sequel?
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Nothing against melee but that would be a different game.
Yep, I remember seeing the same thing. Now with SSDs coming, and Sony's being extremely fast, it can be a possibility.
Absolutely a fair worry. Though I think the original, while beautiful, had a lot of empty useless areas that acted more like window dressing than anything meaningful. I do wonder how they would balance it if they were to implement flying. On one hand, I think you could get away having flying on a map the size of the original. On the other, I wouldn't want it [the flying] to be too slow or minimize the scale.
Either way, IF they do have flying, I believe GG will balance it out and make it work.
I didn't end up playing the game till 2018 for context. It seems simple to ask for just this at this point, but since the game came out around the time of BOTW and later AC: Origins that year did it as well: Let me climb the actual environment freely please. Felt incredibly limited after playing both BOTW and Origins then jumping into Horizon. Blatant wall hangs that are basically automated button clicks in certain areas of an open world feels 360/PS3 era at this point.
Yeah a futuristic sci-fi game with a main character uses a bow and spears, amazing
Getting rid of limited inventory space and making dialogue bits more natural/not like a budget 3D point and click from the early 2000s.
I know, right? It totally is. But not everyone seems to like it. Luckily, there's so many other games these people can enjoy, and leave Horizon alone for the people who really love the concept.
- Some sort of glider like BOTW and AC Brotherhood for coming down from high altitudes
- A meaningful continuation of story and expansion of the lore
- More beautiful, varied environments and vistas
- A meaningful continuation of story and expansion of the lore
- More beautiful, varied environments and vistas
The big thing for me is that I want way more freedom of movement. Aloy felt really glued down to the ground and it felt really bad to me since i'd played it after both AC: Odyssey and BotW where you can climb and move much easier. Being back in control of a character where a shoulder high wall means you have to find the long way around sucked, and I hated only being able to climb at the spots they designate. Aloy controls and feels like this super agile and nimble archer, so having your ability to tackle the environment be so limited felt at odds with that.
Thank god we're on a forum where you don't have to refrain from criticizing games for not taking advantage of creative worlds and have boring characters and combat mechanics just because other people can't handle their favorite games not being beloved
I agree with all your points but i don't known if adding multiplayer is a good idea because it's lot of work and they have already lot of things to improve and Guerrilla is still maybe not big enough to do all that stuff in one game.
-Real climbing system, Like AC or BOTW
-Improved melee combat
-More hunting mechanics
-New Machines, like MechaGorilla, MechaDolphins or MechaDragon ! =)
-The ability to dive underwater
-A lot more Mount, but mostly, FLYING MOUNT AND WATER MOUNT
-Grapple/Hook system for caputring Machine or for balancing, Aloy uses a rope to lower Tallneck's head after scanning them
and few more things, but that is the most exiting things i think about for the sequel, and if Guerrilla make the half of this, i will be a very man =D
-Improved melee combat
-More hunting mechanics
-New Machines, like MechaGorilla, MechaDolphins or MechaDragon ! =)
-The ability to dive underwater
-A lot more Mount, but mostly, FLYING MOUNT AND WATER MOUNT
-Grapple/Hook system for caputring Machine or for balancing, Aloy uses a rope to lower Tallneck's head after scanning them
and few more things, but that is the most exiting things i think about for the sequel, and if Guerrilla make the half of this, i will be a very man =D
To remember to make the main character, or any character that isn't from an audio log, as interesting as the world and lore.
Dream Wishlist.
1.Ocean/island/Hawaii setting
More swimming especially underwater and a chance to have sea monsters and superbosses while gating content via island seems like a good way to go
Plus DinoPunk pirates... what's not to love.
2. Bigger Robots/Monster Hunter inspiration
Up the RPG/crafting by copying the monster hunter world format. Lots of repeated fights for more detailed crafting and character build options
3. Flying mounts
Because it would be cool
4. More open traversal options
5. More mundane/silly sidequests
1.Ocean/island/Hawaii setting
More swimming especially underwater and a chance to have sea monsters and superbosses while gating content via island seems like a good way to go
Plus DinoPunk pirates... what's not to love.
2. Bigger Robots/Monster Hunter inspiration
Up the RPG/crafting by copying the monster hunter world format. Lots of repeated fights for more detailed crafting and character build options
3. Flying mounts
Because it would be cool
4. More open traversal options
5. More mundane/silly sidequests
They wanted a flying mount in this one but couldn't make it happen, which is one of the main things they have talked about with the PS5 ssd.
So yeah it's gonna happen.
I think Guerilla has a unique opportunity with HZD2 to break some real ground with storytelling. The first game sets up a phenomenal universe, yet I think the actual plot left a lot to be desired. From the vaguely appropriative use of Native culture & generally uninteresting tribal dyanmics, to having so much of the plot delivered through text logs & voice codecs - there's a ton of room to grow. Here's my pitch.
1. Jump forward 40 years.
Yep. A full forty years. I want to see the state of this world after a generation, not just thrown into another immediate crisis. Show me Aloy as a hardened mother, burdened with the knowledge of the past and determined to build a better world for her kids. I can't think of a single AAA game in recent history to play off the mother-child dynamic, despite the father-child dynamic becoming such a prevalent trope of the current generation's narrative games. This also gives the world a chance to grow and evolve from the questionable faux-native setting. Imagine if in one generation, society had the sudden ability to launch fully into the industrial revolution. No longer held back by a hostile environment, mankind has fallen back into its old habits of exploiting the environment for relentless growth and profit. Which triggers the Gaia system to fight back, leaving only Aloy to fully understand the stakes at play. The added time also allows for the cliffhanger at the end of HZD to have manifested as a genuine threat.
2. Shift perspective.
What annoyed me most about HZD were the moments where a compelling bit of story was told through a shaky hologram, offering the weakest possible glimpse into the pre-apocalypse. If any future story requires a look to the past - just let us see it for ourselves. Allow us to control Sobeck in these scenes, letting us experience the dawning crisis for ourselves. Maybe pass the torch to one of Aloy's kids, if that's what the story neccessitates.
3. No human enemies.
Simple enough. The worst part of the first game, and it's more narratively interesting to avoid human/human conflict entirely.
1. Jump forward 40 years.
Yep. A full forty years. I want to see the state of this world after a generation, not just thrown into another immediate crisis. Show me Aloy as a hardened mother, burdened with the knowledge of the past and determined to build a better world for her kids. I can't think of a single AAA game in recent history to play off the mother-child dynamic, despite the father-child dynamic becoming such a prevalent trope of the current generation's narrative games. This also gives the world a chance to grow and evolve from the questionable faux-native setting. Imagine if in one generation, society had the sudden ability to launch fully into the industrial revolution. No longer held back by a hostile environment, mankind has fallen back into its old habits of exploiting the environment for relentless growth and profit. Which triggers the Gaia system to fight back, leaving only Aloy to fully understand the stakes at play. The added time also allows for the cliffhanger at the end of HZD to have manifested as a genuine threat.
2. Shift perspective.
What annoyed me most about HZD were the moments where a compelling bit of story was told through a shaky hologram, offering the weakest possible glimpse into the pre-apocalypse. If any future story requires a look to the past - just let us see it for ourselves. Allow us to control Sobeck in these scenes, letting us experience the dawning crisis for ourselves. Maybe pass the torch to one of Aloy's kids, if that's what the story neccessitates.
3. No human enemies.
Simple enough. The worst part of the first game, and it's more narratively interesting to avoid human/human conflict entirely.
What do people want to see from a Horizon Zero Dawn Sequel?
So I liked HZD. If the sales are anything to go by so did a whole bunch of other people. As far as I'm aware a sequel hasn't been officially announced or unofficially referred to (feel free to correct me on that) but given the first game's success and the nature of the industry it seems highly...
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- Towns with NPCs you can interact with on a more substantial level. Allow us to enter houses, take/steal items, enter pubs and inns etc
- Make each boss have different weak spot placements and make each encounter a puzzle in which you have to find the weak spot like SoTC
- Allow her to take on contacts that are essentially dino hunts with different tiers of dinosaurs based on their rarity and add twists to their behavior or add parameters to the contract.
- Fix melee combat, move focus button from R3 to either square or triangle so that you can lock onto enemies and block/counter them (ala AC Odyssey)
- Allow for a more seamless transition between ranged and melee combat
- More ride able dinos
- Expand crafting to allow you to create armor, potions/buffs before battle
- Free climbing ala BoTW and Odyssey but have you require specific gear to do so (e.g. claws from a Sawtooth that you can craft into climbing gloves)
- Bigger and more intricate dungeons that look different based on regional locations
- optional bosses, it would be real cool if they had some Ultima Weapon type enemy that you read and hear about and you have to search and find it and it gets you super rare items or weapons
- ability to change aloy's clothes and hairstyle
- have choices affect game quests more
- Allow for more varied weapons, axe, spear, crossbow, makeshift rifles
- Create a hacking game system which would make sense given the features on the focus and Aloy discovering ancient technology.
- Mini games
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Guerrilla is growing to a 400-person studio with simultaneous projects.
Well you got me on that
That said, GTA flying is attached to the different and unique mechanics of each flying vehicle, that is why is good
Pure flying/mount has never been done right imo (at least I didnt have the pleasure to play a game with a good flying system)
Besides the usual expansions, ala AC1 -> AC2...
can I get a scene where I see Ted Faro absolutely eat shit?
that'd be awesome
can I get a scene where I see Ted Faro absolutely eat shit?
that'd be awesome
Better combat against human enemies.
Better climbing, it was annoying not being able to climb up small ledges because it's not a programmed climbing point.
More story choices / dialogue options.
Ability to mount more machines, including flying machines.
Give Aloy a robot companion that can help in combat, find secrets and can be customised (appearance and weapons)
Better climbing, it was annoying not being able to climb up small ledges because it's not a programmed climbing point.
More story choices / dialogue options.
Ability to mount more machines, including flying machines.
Give Aloy a robot companion that can help in combat, find secrets and can be customised (appearance and weapons)
Nope, do not want. Encounters should be designed around ranged combat like the first.
Just Cause series...
Starlink... The flying is great but needs on foot gameplay which it doesn't have. Xenoblade Chronicles X
Steep
COD infinite Warfare (Not Open world)
Dragon Quest XIS
In general I feel like Flying is just a way to have grand vistas/open spaces while having manageable content density.
I personally think that open worlds should me measured in time rather then distance. Ie How long does it take you to get from where you are to the next interesting activity. I think going beyond 90-100s without doing anything notable is just not fun. Flying allows those distances to be longer which makes for better vistas and that is important to a game like Horizon.
Furthermore you can easily gate flying in multiple ways to add forms of "level design"
Ie. Caves/Buildings/Underground areas too small for flying mounts.
Defended outposts that target a flying player.
Storms and other weather phenomena (like BotWs Rain mechanic) to cut off access to areas or make things more difficult (Clouds to restrict visibility ect)
more agility. Give me more maneuvers to do. The slide was cool, but it was a bit hard to use whenever I wanted to do it and the camera didn't help. Let me do a giant leap off my mount or something.
Cities that feel more alive. Better melee. More machines. Go nuts with the designs. They don't necessarily need to be rooted in reality.
I especially want to see a robot companion though. The different mounts in hzd1 were cool but I mostly disposed of them when done without forming a real relationship. I'd rather have the same one like argo or roach. You would be able to customize it with other machine parts and eventually get it to be your flying mount as well.
I especially want to see a robot companion though. The different mounts in hzd1 were cool but I mostly disposed of them when done without forming a real relationship. I'd rather have the same one like argo or roach. You would be able to customize it with other machine parts and eventually get it to be your flying mount as well.
I feel like this series can heavily benefit with a more elaborate crafting system. Something along the lines of Ratchet and Clank. Not as wacky obviously, but with all the mechanical bits and pieces you come across, I feel like you can get really flexible and creative and it'll all be believable in this world.