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What do you think is a good offer(realistic) in terms of hours off for sick days/vacation time from a job every year?
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Thats what FML is for. Thats 12 weeks a year. It's only unpaid if you don't have enough vacation built up to cover it.
That's some of the weirdest shit ever. You think 3 weeks is reasonable?!
Yeah? But I rarely get sick so I have built up 800+ hours of sick time at my current job. I have coworkers that have been here as long and even longer than I have that have not had any significant illness or injury that have 0 hours and burn a day every other pay period once they have a shift worth of sick time.
We have so much annual leave between sick, vacation, and holiday leave that we have almost 10 weeks a year and people still manage to use it all and not have any for when they get the flu.
How long are your "holidays"? A lot of places in the US have basically a handful of days off in a year outside personal leave of some kind, so three weeks vacation seems really low.
I get 120 hours (three work weeks) of vacation + 80 hours (two work weeks) of sick time.
I left a job that gave me 200 hours of vacation/sick time in one bucket (five weeks).
Seems a little low, but truth is, I don't know when I'd find more time to actually use any more. Plus, my employer is SUPER, SUPER lax about when I work or come in or leave. I can do my job on my own schedule so long as it gets done, so that's great.
I left a job that gave me 200 hours of vacation/sick time in one bucket (five weeks).
Seems a little low, but truth is, I don't know when I'd find more time to actually use any more. Plus, my employer is SUPER, SUPER lax about when I work or come in or leave. I can do my job on my own schedule so long as it gets done, so that's great.
Annual leave to cover sickness?!
Just had someone who was ill on their annual leave so they got their leave days back.
So I have 4 weeks of vacation annually, 120 hours of sick time, and 150 hours of holiday leave (I'm in a 24/7 job and work holidays so instead of double time we get all holidays put into a leave bank). I realize that I'm speaking from a high amount of privilege because in America thats typically a lot.
Honestly sick days shouldn't be a metric. If you're sick, you stay home. No day cost, nothing. How our office is.
For vacation, depends on length of time with the company, but at least 10 days to start.
For vacation, depends on length of time with the company, but at least 10 days to start.
Sick days should be technically unlimited, though after a certain point Dr. note should be required, or go through the FMLA process. We also need to get "free" universal healthcare to go along with the Dr. aknowlegement. If you're taking more than a a few weeks off, you've likely got a more serious problem than just feeling under the weather.
Also need a labor rights situation that provides protection for retaliation. Unlimited sick days isn't any good if the boss can fire you because they decided you weren't in work enough.
On vacation time, 4 weeks minimum. Other nations manage to function just fine with generous vacation time, no reason the U.S. should be any different. We're the wealtheist nation in the world, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to provide a similiar enviroment in the U.S.
Also need a labor rights situation that provides protection for retaliation. Unlimited sick days isn't any good if the boss can fire you because they decided you weren't in work enough.
On vacation time, 4 weeks minimum. Other nations manage to function just fine with generous vacation time, no reason the U.S. should be any different. We're the wealtheist nation in the world, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to provide a similiar enviroment in the U.S.
Let's see . . . I get 22.5 paid vacation days a year, plus probably 1-2 weeks of holidays. You can roll over 25 days into the next year, but anything over that is lost. If you leave, your banked vacation days are paid out.
Sick time, I think is roughly 1 day earned per month. I don't think there's a limit to how many you can bank, I have around 400 hours right now. It doesn't pay out.
Sick time, I think is roughly 1 day earned per month. I don't think there's a limit to how many you can bank, I have around 400 hours right now. It doesn't pay out.
That's... unpaid time off, then. Or you basically go on vacation while being sick.
So basically, unless you give up your free time you usually have to live life, you don't get paid while being sick, but at least you keep your job?
And if you already took your vacation time, which you deserve to take, obviously, you have to live from the money you saved up?
That's absolute trash and punishes people for being sick, what the hell.
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Honestly, it really shouldn't be. Work places could easily sus out who is actually abusing the system and correspond accordingly.
What's more crazy really is how many workplaces make use of "sick pools" instead, banking on employees to pool together their own sick leave in case of emergencies.
we don't have 'sick days' over here as far as I know. My company gives you 32 vacation days (on a 40 hour/week contract). So thats 256 hours, or almost 6.5 weeks.
That is mad. Reminds me of this video:
Also reminds me of people who have "personal days" which are vacation days OR sick days, but if you use them up and get sick, you're screwed. Disgusting tbh.
I think they meant that it shouldn't be limited, but I'm not sure
How does your job handle covid cases? At least potentially. Those are guaranteed to take longer, no?
We have been working remotely since early March. As far as I know, you can take as much time as needed to recover from COVID but I don't really know if you have to exhaust your personal/vacation days first.
I got 240 hours holiday hours and 12 weeks company sick pay a year which seems fairly reasonable. Thought they do a stupid thing that if you are off more than three separate times a year they take away the CSP and don't get entitled to it again for six months.
Sick: Unlimited with doctors notes.
PTO: 239.5 hours (32 days at 7 and a half hour days).
My current position has 22 days which is down significantly from my previous employer (282 hours or about 37 days). I think about 30 days PTO is about reasonable as it works out at approximately 2 weeks at Christmas, 2 weeks in summer, and 2 weeks for elsewhere in the year. I think my minimum PTO for future positions would be 26 days.
PTO: 239.5 hours (32 days at 7 and a half hour days).
My current position has 22 days which is down significantly from my previous employer (282 hours or about 37 days). I think about 30 days PTO is about reasonable as it works out at approximately 2 weeks at Christmas, 2 weeks in summer, and 2 weeks for elsewhere in the year. I think my minimum PTO for future positions would be 26 days.
EDIT: Sorry for the honestly pretty tasteless joke. I'm just horrified and hope you find something better.
ive been doing a number of interviews and it seems 3 weeks to start off is becoming more standard for companies.
the worst though is I've worked for several companies based in Europe and Australia and employees in both countries of origin would take the entire month of August off and Americans would mock the practice acting like we're better because we work harder.
I figured out very early in my career that its all bullshit. Work life balance is way more important.
you've been at the same company for 15 years and you only get 2 weeks? You should be at 4 weeks minimum, even in the US.
haha right.
the worst though is I've worked for several companies based in Europe and Australia and employees in both countries of origin would take the entire month of August off and Americans would mock the practice acting like we're better because we work harder.
I figured out very early in my career that its all bullshit. Work life balance is way more important.
In SF Bay Area- 5 vacation, 5 sick days. I'm salaried. If you want a longer vacation, you can 'owe' the next year and makeup on weekends etc they are flexible. However I kinda just do my work and go if I need to (or come in late, oops). Sick days don't roll over so we try and use up. I always use mine up anyway for 'mental health days' when I'm truly burning out. Private company btw.
Canada - Union
started at 3, now up to 5 weeks, plus bonus weeks off every few yeara
2 weeks sick before proof is required
13 or 14 stat holidays
I know those abusers, they call in sick every other Friday during the busy periods or is mysteriously sick before long weekends. It's annoying because we all know they aren't sick. They also have lots of seniority so have 6 to 8 weeks vacation plus stat holidays. For some sick days really are just extra days off regardless of how good they have it.
Stragenly the abusers haven't called in since WFH, probably because cooped up at home is not much fun even if they call in.
started at 3, now up to 5 weeks, plus bonus weeks off every few yeara
2 weeks sick before proof is required
13 or 14 stat holidays
I know those abusers, they call in sick every other Friday during the busy periods or is mysteriously sick before long weekends. It's annoying because we all know they aren't sick. They also have lots of seniority so have 6 to 8 weeks vacation plus stat holidays. For some sick days really are just extra days off regardless of how good they have it.
Stragenly the abusers haven't called in since WFH, probably because cooped up at home is not much fun even if they call in.
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That's really good! I get 20 days off not including bank holidays but I had to save 3 days of my annual leave to book for the shutdown between Christmas and New Years. Got told today we don't have to come in on Christmas Eve(we usually come in but leave by 10am and get paid for the whole day) only to be told we won't get paid for it, so I basically miss out on a days pay, which is bollocks.
I've been told repeatedly over the 13 years I've worked where I have that I'm lucky I even get a week off.
I get three weeks of vacation to use how I see fit and we shut down for a week at Christmas. I think that is fine, especially because I work 4x10s so I get Friday off.
what more bothers me is jus 40 hours to use for stuff like sick leave or appointments. That is just gonna force people to come in sick oncewe are allowed in the office so they don't touch vacation leave.
what more bothers me is jus 40 hours to use for stuff like sick leave or appointments. That is just gonna force people to come in sick oncewe are allowed in the office so they don't touch vacation leave.