Probably because from a young horny boy's point of view it's awesome.
Madonna's video for Open Your Heart was very aspirational.
Probably because from a young horny boy's point of view it's awesome.
This trend in the 80s and 90s was weird as shit. Whenever I think of this trope, I think of this scene from Picket Fences.
Still can't believe this aired on TV.
Everytime we get a thread of a young female teacher commited statutory rape with one of her male students, there's always at least 5+ creeps who get banned for saying stuff like "whats the big deal?"
it's not an effective satire if it's just going to repeat the same attitude, without changing anythingPeople like to complain about SP but man do they get it right sometimes.
That's not what satire is. Satire doesn't have to offer up a solution for it to be satire.it's not an effective satire if it's just going to repeat the same attitude, without changing anything
yeah whateverThat's not what satire is. Satire doesn't have to offer up a solution for it to be satire.
I have to say, I honestly wasn't expecting you to duck out so fast when your argument was so soundly defeated by a simple definition. Kudos for that.
Yeah, so the SP critique on that attitude still holds true. Men by and large are pigs.I mean you still hear people make a "congrats" joke if a somewhat decent looking woman teacher hooks up with a male student.
I mean, as a teen/minor, I admit it was something I fantasized about and don't think there is anything wrong with doing so.It was a different time and back then those were considered acceptable fantasies.
These movies aren't about teens, they're for teens. Stranger Things is about teens and for adults. These 80s sex-comedies are the way for horny teenage boys to see something titillating in an age before the internet and unfettered, easy access to porn.
If you have the teen boys lusting after a teen girl, she's not walking around in slow-mo with a plunging neck-line, or jogging in lycra, or lounging around the pool in a bikini, but you can show a 25-year-old woman doing those things, and of course the hero -proxy for the viewer- gets the kiss.
The very simple fact is that sex-symbols are adults, and teens are still attracted to people. For instance, there's nothing wrong or unexpected with a 13-year-old boy liking, say, Kendall Jenner.
Yeah, I just started a rewatch of Scrubs, and there's an early episode where Elliot flashes her tits to like a 13 year old boy because he's sick.
Was kinda awkward lol
People even on era think it's acceptable even now. I have to avoid topic about it because it happened to me when I was in first or second grade by an 8th grader. They feel that what's the harm your a guy you should like it and it's sickening. Yours is probably the only post I will read in this topic. Not putting myself through the stress and reading takes in this topic.Am I a prude for thinking this is gross and wrong? I get that it was pandering to some young male fantasy, but maybe don't use actual kids at the very least.
it was the kids dying wish to see boobs, and then the kid survives so Elliot thinks she has magic boobs so she flashes a corpseYeah, I just started a rewatch of Scrubs, and there's an early episode where Elliot flashes her tits to like a 13 year old boy because he's sick.
I had never seen the original, but my wife and I were visiting her parents one weekend and we watched the remake. Since I had never heard of or seen the original, I was definitely like "wtf this movie is fucked up?!" The thing that pissed me off the most about it is that, while yeah, the guy was a major jackass, still she brainwashed and kidnapped him, and then the movie is basically going "BUT THE KIDS IS WHY HE SHOULD STAY!" even though they aren't his kids and he was brainwashed there in the first place.
Probably, and also a factor of just a gender-swapped remake, kind of like Ghostbusters.Oh wow. They swapped the genders of the characters because they thought rape is okay if a woman does it, didn't they?
Man.
People like to complain about SP but man do they get it right sometimes.
That whole movie was risque. Potential kid murder, identity theft, check fraud, and a searing commentary on affluence!Haha I saw this movie about a month or two ago and I wtf'd they did that?! So weird now, but I think back then when we watched it on Disney Channel, that wasn't out of the ordinary as a kid
I guess that's one way to look at itThere's Wes Anderson's Rushmore in 1998, which involves the protagonist, a high school boy, trying to have sex with his teacher.
Society doesn't believe men can be raped. Even in male-to-male assault the first question you'll hear asked is "how could you let that happen to you?".
Sure, but with them it just became easier for teens to miss the point and just regurgitate what was supposed to be satirized. You can say it's not their fault people didn't get it, but there was definitely some have their cake and eat it too with that sort of humor.That's not what satire is. Satire doesn't have to offer up a solution for it to be satire.
What do you want them to "change" about this situation? They're already pointing out the hypocritical mode of thought. Do they really need to say "don't be like this" when the example is ridiculously satirizing the subject as it is? The satire itself shows a leaning/philosophy in this example as it stands.
You're right, SP needs to be even dumber than it is so we can placate and educate all the stupids out there. That's Matt and Trey's ultimate responsibility as comedy writers.Sure, but with them it just became easier for teens to miss the point and just regurgitate what was supposed to be satirized. You can say it's not their fault people didn't get it, but there was definitely some have their cake and eat it too with that sort of humor.
That wasnt my point at all, but okay.You're right, SP needs to be even dumber than it is so we can placate and educate all the stupids out there. That's Matt and Trey's ultimate responsibility as comedy writers.
It was a different time and back then those were considered acceptable fantasies.
Guess: It's a common fantasy... for older males, and they project it onto the stories they tell
As a total aside, I thought Weird Science was about boys basically making a fembot? (I've never seen it)
Common fantasy for teenage boys. I was sexually active at 15-16 and most definitely lusted after women in their 20s. Sure, they may have patted me on the head and said "Nice try, kid." and I knew it but...sure didn't stop me from thinking about it lol
Just want to clarify that it's not just the fantasy itself, but also that in some of these movies they show boys who were underage in real life kissing adult women.I mean, as a teen/minor, I admit it was something I fantasized about and don't think there is anything wrong with doing so.
But it's not something that is appropriate in movies today. Indeed, it's an outdated trope that a male minor with an adult female should be depicted that way.
Your point was that they enjoy people unironically using stuff from their show? Like idolizing Hitler Cartman? And you know this, how?
My point was they enable it and having grown up with the Target audience in different states and schools, I recognize a pattern.Your point was that they enjoy people unironically using stuff from their show? Like idolizing Hitler Cartman? And you know this, how?
As a comedy writer I think I would enjoy it way more if people got my jokes.
Yeah a lot of people will wave off women doing shit because..."nice". I think it's changing but there is definitely a lot of people that still have that double standard.I feel women still do it to boys of all ages still. I remember not to long ago Katy Perry sneaking a kiss on one of the performers of one of the talent shows when she was a judge. The audience applauded, and I wondered what would happen if one of the male judges did that. Apparently the guy was upset later on because he had a girlfriend and was super religious or something.
Dawson's Creek's whole first season comes to mind...