Catching up on White Vision's origin, and what is the chance that Hayward is Kang in disguise?
All we really need to know is "dark magic." Like any "forbidden fruit" story, she was shunned and punished for reaching at knowledge she wasn't supposed to.Does anyone have any idea as to what exactly happened to Agatha in Salem ?
What could possibly lead her witches sisters to wanna straight up annihilate her like that ? She even begged and cried in front of her mother who still felt obligated to try to kill her, even after witnessing what happened to her fellow witches.
What did Agatha do or was done to her for this to happen ?
I think she was using magic that was too evil, even for them. Like Qyburn in Game of ThronesDoes anyone have any idea as to what exactly happened to Agatha in Salem ?
What could possibly lead her witches sisters to wanna straight up annihilate her like that ? She even begged and cried in front of her mother who still felt obligated to try to kill her, even after witnessing what happened to her fellow witches.
What did Agatha do or was done to her for this to happen ?
Assuming it links remotely up to real history, her doing magic in Salem in 1693 likely led to 25 innocent people dying in the Salem witch trials.Does anyone have any idea as to what exactly happened to Agatha in Salem ?
What could possibly lead her witches sisters to wanna straight up annihilate her like that ? She even begged and cried in front of her mother who still felt obligated to try to kill her, even after witnessing what happened to her fellow witches.
What did Agatha do or was done to her for this to happen ?
In the previous episode when Wanda is pouring milk and it's changing from bottle to carton to bottle, the carton has a MISSING kid on it...
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They probably only recovered his body recently. I don't think Stark or the rest of the Avengers would have just left his body to the government.
Why did Wakanda just give up his body? sounds like a plothole to me.
She didn't steal vision though
If you like exverything you just saw in each on-the-nose scene explained to you explicitly by the characters
Guys, Fietro is totally a magic construct.
Agatha doesn't call it a crystalline possession. Listen to it again, she doesn't pronounce it anywhere close. She calls it a crystallum possession.
crystallum - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
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"Crystallum" is Latin for either a crystal, a thing made of crystal, or a gem or stone resembling crystal. Fitting considering all of her spells are in Latin.
Fietro is a meat puppet that Agatha conjured up and is semi-possessing to control as "her eyes and ears." He looks like Evan Peters because Agatha admits it takes years to get illusions right and most likely screwed up, but because Wanda's a wreck she got away with it.
But who dropped the invite for Jersey though. I still think someone is pulling her strings.
Does anyone have any idea as to what exactly happened to Agatha in Salem ?
What could possibly lead her witches sisters to wanna straight up annihilate her like that ? She even begged and cried in front of her mother who still felt obligated to try to kill her, even after witnessing what happened to her fellow witches.
What did Agatha do or was done to her for this to happen ?
Put captions on , does it say for sure? I'm curious tooI don't know how you pronounce "crystalline" but she pronounces it fucking wacky if that's what she's saying.
"Kris-STAHL-loon"? Really?
Subtitles said Crystalline
I don't know how you pronounce "crystalline" but she pronounces it fucking wacky if that's what she's saying.
"Kris-STAHL-loon"? Really?
Pretty wild that it's taken 8 episodes to get to what I assumed was the premise of the show when it was first announced. Not expecting a whole lot from the final episode. It's been a real drag up to this point.
It was implied in AOU that the twins were special since the stone only worked on them and no one elseI feel like there is still a Pietro-sized hole in the fact that if Wanda was always meant to have some sort of magical powers, was Pietro just always supposed to be a speedy boy?
That grief caused Wanda to create a fake sitcom life for herself and a fake vision ,and that some bad guy would be manipulating her to their own ends? Yeah, takes a real genius to see that coming.I have no idea how you could possibly come to that conclusion.
Yeah there really needs to be two hours at this point. I already know that the next episode is going to be disappointing on some level for me. there is just too much to cover, or, too much will just be glossed over for some "big reveal" moments and the potential for answers in future projects.Last episode better be an hour plus long!! They have a lot left to answer and we need a long satisfying battle too!
I dont want this to end!
That grief caused Wanda to create a fake sitcom life for herself and a fake vision ,and that some bad guy would be manipulating her to their own ends? Yeah, takes a real genius to see that coming.
I have no idea how you could possibly come to that conclusion.
I said it took 8 episodes to get to what I assumed was the premise when it was first announced.No, you said it took 8 episodes to get to the "premise" of the show.
The premise of the show was clear in the first episode.
Yup. That was good. He faked the video feed of her and kept working on Vision's body.I just realised we are all deceived by Hayward, not one single soul in here are not.
Wanda did not take Vision's body after all.
I'll 100% take that. There's no way in hell that will come up.It's time for some bets
I'm willing to bet the word Mutant will be said next week.
any takers ?
I said it took 8 episodes to get to what I assumed was the premise when it was first announced.
The details in the mcu is unreal
Fox's Quicksilver actor and character. What is confusing here?
Obviously? Episode 4 ends with a character saying "It's all Wanda" in one of the worst reveals of all time, since everyone figured that out when the show was announced.The fact that Wanda created this was heavily implied at multiple points throughout the series. It wasn't like it took eight episodes to get there. This episode simply told us the details of how she did it.
Gotta second this. Like not a huge deal but maybe wait a couple days at least?Is it really necessary to rename this thread like 5 fucking minutes after the episode has dropped? I knew this entire time to expect some kind of reveal around the Scarlet Witch name because of the thread title.
I think mirage Vision is more or less real, at least in any way that we understand real. He was made from Wanda's memories. I think of him as a kind of clone with memories implanted. He's missing a lot of information but he's capable of arriving at the same kind of logical conclusions which makes him a lot like the real article. He's likely more Wanda though than Vision. But, I think the two were a lot alike to begin with and the real Vision also had a profound impact on Wanda, which is why it's hard to tell the difference. A part of Vision will always be in Wanda.I'm trying to figure out how if Wanda made Vision from nothing how he could have his own consciousness and powers. And I'm still confused about about Quicksilver from Fox's universe showing up unless it really was just fanservice after all.
But White Vision being there makes me miss the fact that Hank Pym's Ant Man wasn't made as one of the focal points in the MCU.
All she said was that he wasn't her Brother, more or less. She didn't clarify who exactly he is or how he came about. She literally showed she has the power to warp reality when she turned an insect into a bird. Nevermind that it's obvious she is messing around with the Nexus, that was literally name dropped.That he's not actually that character?
Half this episode goes to show that Agatha is not some reality warping power, she's extremely petty and jealous of Wanda, and she claims responsibility for Pietro
And now he has speedster powers and becomes either Whizzer or Speed Demon. I think he could be on the good side in the finale if Vision reaches him quick enough. Or if Monica uses her powers to knock sense into himFeitro is going to be Jimmy Woo's informant bank on it. He may have ties to Hydra or even be a superhero/villian, or he could just be an accountant to the cartels or something. But I bet he's just a cheeky nod to we have the Fox universe now too from Disney.