yup and the worst of it would be on red areas.The amount of all types of mail they move on a daily basis would blow some people mind in this thread. To think everything will be okay if that goes away is just crazy.
yup and the worst of it would be on red areas.The amount of all types of mail they move on a daily basis would blow some people mind in this thread. To think everything will be okay if that goes away is just crazy.
Old people as well. The Republican Bread and butter.
"I had so many checks signed with my name on them.
"I had so many checks signed with my name on them.
They were BEAUTIFUL checks, the best checks.
But we can't send them out now. We can't do it. We want to do it, but we can't do it.
I tell the people I say, 'We have to send out the checks', and they say, 'We can't do it.'
So we've decided together as a nation, to send all of that money to Mar-A-Lago."
You may has well advocated that. Do you think ever person in the United States has access to digital information? They absolutely don't, especially the poor. Everyone gets mail. It's a service for everyone and they don't have to deal with private corporations to have a monopoly on sending information. It's an important service of sending information, checks, bills, packages, etc. FedEx and UPS do not match USPS by any measure.
If you honest think the USPS should be shuttered, you are dumb as a box of rocks, buddy. Like the kind of dumb where I don't know how you sleep at night because you wouldn't think of shutting your eyes to sleep.
oh god"I had so many checks signed with my name on them.
They were BEAUTIFUL checks, the best checks.
But we can't send them out now. We can't do it. We want to do it, but we can't do it.
I tell the people I say, 'We have to send out the checks', and they say, 'We can't do it.'
So we've decided together as a nation, to send all of that money to Mar-A-Lago."
You seem to miss the part where everyone doesn't have the internet RIGHT NOW. Socializing the internet would be a good thing but if USPS goes down in June, that's not in the cards. You could also read all of the other people calling you dumb and privileged in this thread explaining how it will be a bad thing.I used to work at a small business where we shipped stuff on the daily. USPS we had issues so moved to FedEx. I grew up in a rural area and was equally served by private shipping. Have not needed the mail in 5 years.
Packages are one thing, mail is another. All of that can be done online. I'd be in favor of socializing internet access a public utility to account for bills etc. In fact I helped organize our city run gb fiber and did a decent bit of the networking. I am a cybersecurity engineer, far from so dumb I forget to close my eyes to sleep. That's way uncalled for. Also spent quite a bit of money organizing and contributing to progressive causes, so you probably need to reevaluate your perceptions based on one thing I've said.
Make your case on why it's still needed and will continue to be needed. That's what a forum is for. Hostility maximum off the charts. Calm down and make your case. Give some statistics. How many people are underserved by private shipping or have no access to email? Why is physical mail a need in 2020?
He doesn't. He's the stereotypical engineer who thinks he has it all figured out. He's like Scott Adams.a government trying to ditch the postal service will no way in hell make the internet a public utility lol. Like do you even hear yourself?
My parents get their medicine delivered via USPS. Their costs would increase with literally any other carrier. So yeah sit down.Yep, I'll die on this hill. It's antiquated and unneeded for the vast majority of use cases. Get rid of it.
I used to work at a small business where we shipped stuff on the daily. USPS we had issues so moved to FedEx. I grew up in a rural area and was equally served by private shipping. Have not needed the mail in 5 years.
Packages are one thing, mail is another. All of that can be done online. I'd be in favor of socializing internet access a public utility to account for bills etc. In fact I helped organize our city run gb fiber and did a decent bit of the networking. I am a cybersecurity engineer, far from so dumb I forget to close my eyes to sleep. That's way uncalled for. Also spent quite a bit of money organizing and contributing to progressive causes, so you probably need to reevaluate your perceptions based on one thing I've said.
Make your case on why it's still needed and will continue to be needed. That's what a forum is for. Hostility maximum off the charts. Calm down and make your case. Give some statistics. How many people are underserved by private shipping or have no access to email? Why is physical mail a need in 2020?
Jesus get a load of this chump.Yep, I'll die on this hill. It's antiquated and unneeded for the vast majority of use cases. Get rid of it.
I used to work at a small business where we shipped stuff on the daily. USPS we had issues so moved to FedEx. I grew up in a rural area and was equally served by private shipping. Have not needed the mail in 5 years.
Packages are one thing, mail is another. All of that can be done online. I'd be in favor of socializing internet access a public utility to account for bills etc. In fact I helped organize our city run gb fiber and did a decent bit of the networking. I am a cybersecurity engineer, far from so dumb I forget to close my eyes to sleep. That's way uncalled for. Also spent quite a bit of money organizing and contributing to progressive causes, so you probably need to reevaluate your perceptions based on one thing I've said.
Make your case on why it's still needed and will continue to be needed. That's what a forum is for. Hostility maximum off the charts. Calm down and make your case. Give some statistics. How many people are underserved by private shipping or have no access to email? Why is physical mail a need in 2020?
There's a lot of things that aren't quite a parcel and aren't quite a letter. Important documents that can't be digitized and require physical signatures, replacements for credit cards, replacements for ID cards and car license plates. Certified letters are also a necessity for all sorts of business and legal proceedings.
He doesn't. He's the stereotypical engineer who thinks he has it all figured out. He's like Scott Adams.
I love that you reply to me but no one else lol. You literally do not know what you're talking about. Deride my post history all you want, maybe I deserve it, but at least I do not advocate for making the country a worse place.Whatever that means. Reading your post history adds up - you are an extremely hostile individual. Calling people buffoons and telling them to fuck off on a constant basis. This kind of posting is actually not allowed here, idk how you've been slipping through the cracks.
Thank you for others who have had more polite posts. Particularly getting mailed prescription drugs and costs associated with that is something I hadn't thought about and has changed my mind.
Although, yes, as an engineer this is how I think. The idea that a person drives around every day and puts 99% junk in my mailbox and 1% useful stuff which could be done online is ridiculous and wasteful on the face of it. There are millions upon millions of people in this category. There's got to be a better way to do this... and there is a better way to do this, and that's public works to get everyone connected to the internet. Never claimed we are there now, although I would be interested in having a conversation about equability between an online voting portal vs mail in voting for this election cycle. One thing is for sure though - this is not the place to have that discussion.
Perhaps they should completely socialize USPS, fund it via taxes, and do free delivery of essential packages and state/federal communications on an opt-in basis with the alternative being digital. Something has to be done because the current financial configuration is going to sink them regardless of what I think.
I love that you reply to me but no one else lol. You literally do not know what you're talking about. Deride my post history all you want, maybe I deserve it, but at least I do not advocate for making the country a worse place.
Nah, I think we're both assholes at this point, lol.What you want me to spend my evening replying to like 5 different people at once? I was wrong and just admitted it but keep riding your high horse. And least I'm not an asshole.
dude why are you being so hostileBRB while I apply my limited anicdotal experiences with something I don't understand to the other 350 million people In this country as proof I know what the fuck I'm talking about so I can sound like a complete dumbass in my own fucking ignorance.
Keep adding to your shitty post history.
Yep, I'll die on this hill. It's antiquated and unneeded for the vast majority of use cases. Get rid of it.
To be fair, nothing could be more American.It's easy to die on a hill when you won't be the one dealing with the ramifications.
Whatever that means. Reading your post history adds up - you are an extremely hostile individual. Calling people buffoons and telling them to fuck off on a constant basis. This kind of posting is actually not allowed here, idk how you've been slipping through the cracks.
i don't see a path with the current WH for the USPS to continue to exist past May
The idea that a person drives around every day and puts 99% junk in my mailbox and 1% useful stuff which could be done online is ridiculous and wasteful on the face of it. There are millions upon millions of people in this category. There's got to be a better way to do this... and there is a better way to do this, and that's public works to get everyone connected to the internet.
No. They really do. Widespread mail in voting would decimate the GOP for the foreseeable future. They won't cave on this because they simply cannot; It's life or death. The pandemic has put them in a bind, and they'll have to expend a lot of political capital and employ an unprecedented amount of propaganda to hold the line, but they will.
I'm one of the shittiest posters on here, but goddam this is the single worst take i've ever seen.Gotta be honest here, I really don't care about the USPS. Antiquated tech which barely has a use case in modern society. As with everything, I'm sure there's some proportion of disadvantaged people which would theoretically get hit the hardest. Sucks man, but majority of mail is just information which can be sent far more efficiently through digital format, with far less carbon footprint to boot. The whole concept is ridiculous in 2020.
Also, it's been a plan by the GOP to dismantle the USPS for many, many years. They hate mail in voting. This is known. We shouldn't be using mail for voting anyways. Put it online, don't let ignorance and fear mongering sway us from this. It is possible to do it security. They will cry voter fraud just as hard for mail in voting as they would for an online portal.
Gotta be honest here, I really don't care about the USPS. Antiquated tech which barely has a use case in modern society. As with everything, I'm sure there's some proportion of disadvantaged people which would theoretically get hit the hardest. Sucks man, but majority of mail is just information which can be sent far more efficiently through digital format, with far less carbon footprint to boot. The whole concept is ridiculous in 2020.
see the funny thing is that those companies are running to their own problems right now to. And even at their peak can't handle what the US postal service does they are not designed for itLets note, they employee 600k in the country. 600k more people to add to unemployment. 40k alone in Texas. Amazon, UPS, and Fedex aren't going to fill the void left. They will prioritize profit. Large cities will be okay, but rural places will get killed by costs/unemployment of workers. This is 100% of cutting the nose to spite the face
Whatever that means. Reading your post history adds up - you are an extremely hostile individual. Calling people buffoons and telling them to fuck off on a constant basis. This kind of posting is actually not allowed here, idk how you've been slipping through the cracks.
Thank you for others who have had more polite posts. Particularly getting mailed prescription drugs and costs associated with that is something I hadn't thought about and has changed my mind.
Although, yes, as an engineer this is how I think. The idea that a person drives around every day and puts 99% junk in my mailbox and 1% useful stuff which could be done online is ridiculous and wasteful on the face of it. There are millions upon millions of people in this category. There's got to be a better way to do this... and there is a better way to do this, and that's public works to get everyone connected to the internet. Never claimed we are there now, although I would be interested in having a conversation about equability between an online voting portal vs mail in voting for this election cycle. One thing is for sure though - this is not the place to have that discussion.
Perhaps they should completely socialize USPS, fund it via taxes, and do free delivery of essential packages and state/federal communications on an opt-in basis with the alternative being digital. Something has to be done because the current financial configuration is going to sink them regardless of what I think.
No. They really do. Widespread mail in voting would decimate the GOP for the foreseeable future. They won't cave on this because they simply cannot; It's life or death. The pandemic has put them in a bind, and they'll have to expend a lot of political capital and employ an unprecedented amount of propaganda to hold the line, but they will.
Allowing the USPS to die kills a few birds with one stone.