Marjorie Taylor Greene is next. We have a lot of shit heels in Georgia.
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Because an accidental discharge or some other sort of altercation in such a large space just happening to hit the most important person there is so improbable it strains credulity.
It is Bolsonaro again, this shooter is a stupid idiot!
No, we are just taking a wait and see approach from a US voting populace that has the attention span and memory of a horsefly.
Hot Take culture has affected political coverage so badly. It's always about that one big thing. Elections are complex.
I imagine Secret Service is trying to keep Biden safe from becoming a victim himself. No way they aren't beefing up security for politicians to the max after this. It's probably for the best to wait before making any moves.
Ya the shooter's motives and background will be huge in how this all plays out.
No, the people who are saying Biden can't win are saying this won't change the election at all.
No. 1 rule of political assassination attempts is that the motivation is almost never what you think it is
But two people working together to kill Trump and they only manage to graze an ear?
This is America. It's very much not the likely answer but it's far from impossible. The only thing we can confidently say is no matter what it was (short of an electrical accident or something weird) the secret service fucked up royally
The person being carried out and the other person with blood on their face looked pretty close up to the front. Could easily have been two people getting into with each other and Trump got caught in the line of fire. Innocent bystanders get hit all the time.
Exactly. Biden introduced Putin and still has a chance to beat Trump. I'm not jumping off of a mountain about this. Let's chill out.
This is where I'm at. Everyone's first reaction is how much worse this makes things for us, but I'll wait it out because my mental state can't stand four months of just accepting it's all over.
I would not trust anyones immediate memory of gunshots, especially when they say they heard multiple shooters
Guns aren't nearly as accurate as video games would like you to believe, especially if they're in the hands of ameteures
Biden was attending Mass at the time of the shooting and is now being briefed on the situation
if that were the case why the fuck was/is he leading in the polls? the average voter has goldfish levels of recall. hell even being relatively politically engaged it's hard to remember a significant amount of what has happened over the past 8 years.
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Saying "this won't change literally anything" is not taking a wait and see approach.
I'm almost positive he will be painted as a liberal no matter what. I'm sure plenty of russian-bot nonsense about him will be circulating on Xitter tomorrow.
If he was shot by a MAGA chud, the narrative is going to be "Donald Trump almost got killed by the monster he created" or something like that.
I think this is going to have an effect on some independents. Americans care about optics and heroics and Trump got the best possible.
I think this is going to have an effect on some independents. Americans care about optics and heroics and Trump got the best possible.
Something like an assassination attempt is a lot different than moving on from the latest gaffe or other scandal.
Maybe he was trying to impress someone....like Sydney Sweeney
......please note this is a reference to Reagan's would be assassin
I get that and that's why a bullet from an altercation grazing Trump isn't that unlikely. Especially when you consider the type of nutcases Trump draws to his rallies.
Either way, we still have very little information on what happened.
there's always some report saying that there's multiple shooters and it almost always doesn't turn out to be the case.
Where are y'all pulling this from? There needs to be an investigation before we jump to conclusions. November is far away and so much will happen before then.
I need to get off the internet because all these hot takes are giving me massive anxiety. Literaly nothing good has come out of what happened today. And I fear for the long term impact of todays events.
i saw a path forward with kamala but bluntly she can't fight that lone image of trump pumping his fist in front of the flag
it's just too perfect, it lined up too well, it is too effective
landslide incoming
They could very well be working on it, I don't see the benefit in throwing out an unprepared statement when it's still under investigation? He's probably going to want to be careful on the words he choose to use also as it will be used against him.
From the sounds of it, the gunman shot Trump then got stopped by someone in the crowd. Secret service then shot down the shooter. Now all we need to hear is the motive.
The Project 2025 stuff has only really started breaking into into public consciousness in like the last eight days. If it has an effect on polling I wouldn't expect to see it before late July
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THANK YOU! they have been attacking for years, been committing killings, and mobs, but now it's going to get bad?
It's more surprising it hasn't happened more as it is. At some point the groups being targeted are going to fight back. All it takes is one person being targeted to go "well I'll get you first" and they have been targeting MILLIONS of people.
You have sitting congress people saying to get your enemies, kill them, lock them up. Someone is eventually going to believe them.
Gabby Giffords was shot in the face 10 years ago by a right wing nutjob thanks to the GOP putting a target on her face.
THANK YOU! they have been attacking for years, been committing killings, and mobs, but now it's going to get bad?
It's more surprising it hasn't happened more as it is. At some point the groups being targeted are going to fight back. All it takes is one person being targeted to go "well I'll get you first" and they have been targeting MILLIONS of people.
You have sitting congress people saying to get your enemies, kill them, lock them up. Someone is eventually going to believe them.
Gabby Giffords was shot in the face 10 years ago by a right wing nutjob thanks to the GOP putting a target on her face.
Honestly if we're talking about how this could effect the Election I weirdly think this opens up an avenue for Biden to win.
For here it allows Biden to relitigate being a peacekeeper/sensible voice in the room. Trump's biggest boon rn is that he could use this to galvanize his base but everyone knows his base is fucking crazy and they're going to try some fucked up shit and Trump will be more likely to act like they're in the right. The idea Trump is attempting to moderate himself could blow off and he could be unhinged in his response.
People haven't felt the existential possibility of Trump winning but this could potentially be the thing to remind people the stakes of the Election and why it's crucial to stick with our old man to the end and not let someone like Trump into the White House
For here it allows Biden to relitigate being a peacekeeper/sensible voice in the room. Trump's biggest boon rn is that he could use this to galvanize his base but everyone knows his base is fucking crazy and they're going to try some fucked up shit and Trump will be more likely to act like they're in the right. The idea Trump is attempting to moderate himself could blow off and he could be unhinged in his response.
People haven't felt the existential possibility of Trump winning but this could potentially be the thing to remind people the stakes of the Election and why it's crucial to stick with our old man to the end and not let someone like Trump into the White House
Worst-case scenario in so many different respects today. Just awful for the country.
I feel like each day I'm saying that now, and I fear that I'm going to be saying that a lot over the next decade.
I feel like each day I'm saying that now, and I fear that I'm going to be saying that a lot over the next decade.
I mean more gutting abortion right due to his supreme court appointees rather than project 2025. . If that were something that harmed trump the candidate (rather than the republican party in general) he wouldn't have been leading in the polls for most of the last 18 months.
I'm not willing to discount anything at this point. The one thing Biden could point to here is Trump's speech in 2016 when he suggested '2nd amendment folks' killing Hilary.
him inciting violence before the election is probably the only thing that'd change perceptions, yeah
but biden is still losing way too hard in the "image" category and i think it's time we take our heads out of the sand there lol
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