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Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind.


It's unfortunate that people never understand the point of "an eye for an eye". It was never about retribution but about justice. The punishment should fit the crime, no more no less. This prevented the privileged and wealthy from abusing the system and taking advantage of the underprivileged/poor.
 

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Does anyone know roughly how many solid blue states DON'T have independent redistricting boards or whatever? Why are we not hearing about Dems drawing wacky, absurd maps that carve out GOP House members from blue states?
Illinois is the only state with plausible opportunities for Democratic gerrymandering this time around with a Democratic trifecta and non-independent redistricting.
 

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Illinois is the only state with plausible opportunities for Democratic gerrymandering this time around with a Democratic trifecta and non-independent redistricting.
Maryland as well, we'll get an extra seat there. The legislature can bypass the governor's veto.

New York is also underrated. They have a nonpartisan commission on the books but it can be overridden with a 2/3rds majority in the House and Senate, which party leaders in both chambers have indicated they'll do.
 

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Illinois is the only state with plausible opportunities for Democratic gerrymandering this time around with a Democratic trifecta and non-independent redistricting.
I know it's the "right" thing to do, but knowing the GOP wouldn't do the same thing why would blue states agree to these independent redistributing commissions?
 

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The title of that AP article seems to have nailed exactly what is going on. Maybe if we can stop eating horse dewormer and start getting vaccinated/wearing masks we can all start feeling safe again and hiring will pick up again.
 

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Here's an example (thread) of why republicans are going the current court route with abortion--many states have old laws on the books that would instantly go into effect:



Disappointing jobs report:



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US hiring slows as delta variant weakens travel and tourism

America’s employers added just 235,000 jobs in August, a modest gain after two months of robust hiring at a time when the delta variant’s spread has discouraged some people from flying, shopping and eating out.


Well, hopefully all the bad news just condensed itself into these last 10 days.
 

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TikTokers flood Texas abortion whistleblower site with Shrek memes, fake reports and porn

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Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart Texas's extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.
Redditors said they had submitted reports blaming the state of Texas for facilitating abortions by having highways that allow people to travel to the procedure.
An activist who goes by the name Sean Black said he programmed a script to submit reports en masse on the website automatically.

Black, who describes himself as a "regular college student from North Carolina", has released a Python script and an iOS shortcut for less tech-savvy to send thousands of reports a day.

He said his data shows nearly 8,000 people have used the Python code and 9,000 have used the iOS shortcut. Others have been inspired by his coding against anti-abortion advocates, saying collaborators across the US are working with him on 10 "active branches" of new features in the tool.
www.theguardian.com

TikTokers flood Texas abortion whistleblower site with Shrek memes, fake reports and porn

Critics of Texas’s new law have been filing hundreds of fake reports to the whistleblowing website in hopes of crashing it
 

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Plinko

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Democrats are actually trying to follow the model Stacey Abrams used in Georgia in other states:
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Democrats look to Georgia model ahead of 2022 Senate races

Democrats are seeking to replicate the aggressive voter registration and mobilization program that propelled their recent wins in Georgia, seeing such an effort as their best hope for competing in …
I remember reading this article when it was published back in March. I'd like to hear from democrats what progress they have made, because right now the media seems to believe the Bannon movement looks to be outpacing it steadily.
 

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TikTokers flood Texas abortion whistleblower site with Shrek memes, fake reports and porn

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TikTokers flood Texas abortion whistleblower site with Shrek memes, fake reports and porn

Critics of Texas’s new law have been filing hundreds of fake reports to the whistleblowing website in hopes of crashing it
This is great and all but while millennials and gen-z are doing this far right assholes are taking over school boards and local government office positions. I wish the new generation would realize that there is more to politics than just sitting behind a keyboard. We are facing an existential threat against republicans that believe in the absolute worst and are determined in their authoritarian views.
Seems really bad that we're ending unemployment benefits now when the delta wave hasn't even peaked.
And we got manchin to thanks for this. Once more proving that conservative ideals are all pure bullshit and harmful to society and the planet as a whole.
 

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I don't want to downplay recent events or minimize people's feelings here, but the news is always bad. Always. Always has been, always will be bad. Because there are always bad things happening. Pick any day of any year in the last 100 years in America, and I can guarantee something bad if not pretty bad was being talked about
I have to tell people this constantly in my family. "The news said there was a carjacking yesterday. Isn't it awful what's happening these days?"

There are 340 million people in this country. Statistically I can find a murder every day, somewhere. The news found out decades if not centuries ago that violent/sad/horrific stories get ratings.
 
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It is probably fake. And reddit seems to have banned that "txbountyhunter" subreddit.
I would say it's more constructed as a what if scenario. Though who the fuck would want earn a 10000 bounty and then have to pay up to 18 years child support.
people need to be smart and think of and abuse all the ways this law works so it can be overturned and quickly.
I could see someone calling in fake events to have a bounty hunter shoot someone for retaliation over something unrelated
 

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It could also be one of the justices thinking rule for the law right now so they can tell it to their conservative elite friends and then rule against it on some ground when appeals make it way through courts.
Nah, it's the other way around imo. They effectively ruled in favor of the law now, which will be swiftly enacted in other states, FL already said so. By the time the SC hears the MI case next summer that will be a large amount of the population already under state rule that has abolished Roe, and that gives them cover to side with those states. Not that these extremists need any cover. And fuck Roberts for playing the Collins voting card to make it seem less partisan than it is, even though the end result is never in doubt.

As the article above your post said, the one highlighted as showing hope, the writing is on the wall.
 

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Federal Court Dismisses Cheerleader's Case Against Sheriff: Prohibiting Kneeling During National Anthem Wasn't 'Racial Discrimination'

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A Black cheerleader who was prevented from taking a knee during the national anthem has lost her case in a federal appeals court.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit unanimously affirmed the dismissal of Tommia Dean's lawsuit. Dean was a cheerleader at Kennesaw State University (KSU) in Georgia who kneeled during the national anthem at one of the university's football games.
However, on the very same day, Earl Ehrhart, the Georgia state legislator who oversaw the budget for the state's public universities, called the college's athletic director and instructed him to prohibit the cheerleaders from kneeling during the national anthem. Both the athletic director and county sheriff Neil Warren assured Ehrart that there would be no more protest-kneeling by the cheerleaders.
Writing for the three-member panel, Judge Jill Pryor ruled that Dean simply had not pleaded enough facts to prove actions against the cheerleaders were undertaken because the cheerleaders were Black. "That Warren's targets are African American, without more," wrote Pryor, "does not make it plausible that he targeted the cheerleaders because they are African American."
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Federal Court Dismisses Cheerleader's Case Against Sheriff: Prohibiting Kneeling During National Anthem Wasn't 'Racial Discrimination'

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit unanimously affirmed the dismissal of Tommia Dean's lawsuit. Dean was a cheerleader at Kennesaw State University (KSU) in Georgia who kneeled during the national anthem at one of the university’s football games.
 

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Ha! Good luck Wyden. He always tries to throw everything in.

This is literally just a kitchen sink of hopes and dreams.

So many of these items are unworkable. The mark to market taxes will never pass.

The $0.20/lb tax on virgin resins? That will just be passed along to consumers because no one has figured out an economical way to convert the polymers back to monomers. You need perfect recycling (ie no mixed plastics all sorted by code and then also no coloring) and a means to convert the plastic back from a polymer back to a monomer so that you can control the flow rates and structural strength of the product. There is a reason that most uses of recycled plastic have been fairly limited. Pyrolisis is a nacent innovation and right now the leading player (Lyondell) can only recycle 25 kgs per year.
 

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Is anyone worried about the infrastructure bill? That seems like a must-pass but I haven't heard about it because of everything else going on---other than Manchin's blowhard BS about "pausing" it.

Should we be worried about it?
 

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Is anyone worried about the infrastructure bill? That seems like a must-pass but I haven't heard about it because of everything else going on---other than Manchin's blowhard BS about "pausing" it.

Should we be worried about it?
Manchin wants to pause the reconciliation not the infrastructure bill. Progressives won't pass the infra bill without reconciliation.
 

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Just watching Joe Biden's speech today. Sorry dude, but there is no way that all (or even many) Americans will ever back any proposal even if it is beneficial. You're living in a fantasy land. Do you not see that there are about 100 million Americans who are so far into the death cult that they would rather die and poison themselves with unproven livestock medicine rather than take a safe vaccine!?
 

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Is anyone worried about the infrastructure bill? That seems like a must-pass but I haven't heard about it because of everything else going on---other than Manchin's blowhard BS about "pausing" it.

Should we be worried about it?
Hopefully at worst he's presented with the funding options for it and still bitches and moans and takes it down to 3.2T or something.

Edit: Thought you asked about reconciliation. Either way, House isn't going to let his BS slide. Has to either be both or none.
 

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Is anyone worried about the infrastructure bill? That seems like a must-pass but I haven't heard about it because of everything else going on---other than Manchin's blowhard BS about "pausing" it.

Should we be worried about it?
Until reconciliation passes the senate, yes. But with some restraint. Machin and Sinema are wildcards. Alternatively, a Senate death from the wrong state is always on the table.
 

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Edit: Thought you asked about reconciliation. Either way, House isn't going to let his BS slide. Has to either be both or none.
Is this an actual threat anymore, though? How many progressives are there that would block it? How many R's actually aren't opposed to voting for it, especially if it means it kills the reconciliation bill?
 

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We evacuated 120k plus people from Afghanistan and ended a 20 year forever war. I'd consider that a big freaking deal.

The evacuation was, on its own, incredibly successful, but due to that bombing, the war hungry media hasn't framed it as that. (Genuinely can't get over just how blood hungry the US media is.)

I hope that in time that evacuation will be seen as the success it was, but that remains to shake out.
 

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Is this an actual threat anymore, though? How many progressives are there that would block it? How many R's actually aren't opposed to voting for it, especially if it means it kills the reconciliation bill?
There are probably enough progressives to tank it. As for the GOP, they're a proto-fascist cult party now - especially in the House. No way they would hand Biden a win like that on anything.
 
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The evacuation was, on its own, incredibly successful, but due to that bombing, the war hungry media hasn't framed it as that. (Genuinely can't get over just how blood hungry the US media is.)

I hope that in time that evacuation will be seen as the success it was, but that remains to shake out.

That's not really an accurate framing. The evacuation post Taliban taking control of Afghanistan was a success, but the problem was everything prior to that was a pretty big failure. Biden's administration absolutely had the ability to get a lot of stuff done beforehand and there were definitely people who wanted out that weren't able to get out until after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan. There were some 16,000 visa applications related to allies in Afghanistan when it fell, and only about 1200 of those had been processed and there had been translators and other officials targeted by the Taliban who were killed as they were waiting for US bureaucracy to function.

I think the Biden administration was mostly competent in cleaning up their own mess after things went side way, but I don't think the evacuation itself was handled super well because the withdraw was done very poorly and the US absolutely could have done a lot more to get people out in the months the Biden administration had prior to August. And I think placing their hopes on the theortetical timeline around an Afghan government that they had created to buy them a couple months was overly optimistic and I still think they were too slow to react as the Taliban really started bearing down on Afghanistan

I know people are angry at the media and I think they should be for how overtly pro Military Industrial Complex they continue to be and how pundits can't get out of the early 2000s mindset at times, but I also don't think we should let that obfuscate the actual issues and real criticism that can be put on the Biden administration. They aren't completely devoid of responsibility for a bad situation here even if I think they were unjustly given too much of the blame.
 

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That's not really an accurate framing. The evacuation post Taliban taking control of Afghanistan was a success, but the problem was everything prior to that was a pretty big failure. Biden's administration absolutely had the ability to get a lot of stuff done beforehand and there were definitely people who wanted out that weren't able to get out until after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan. There were some 16,000 visa applications related to allies in Afghanistan when it fell, and only about 1200 of those had been processed and there had been translators and other officials targeted by the Taliban who were killed as they were waiting for US bureaucracy to function.

I think the Biden administration was mostly competent in cleaning up their own mess after things went side way, but I don't think the evacuation itself was handled super well because the withdraw was done very poorly and the US absolutely could have done a lot more to get people out in the months the Biden administration had prior to August. And I think placing their hopes on the theortetical timeline around an Afghan government that they had created to buy them a couple months was overly optimistic and I still think they were too slow to react as the Taliban really started bearing down on Afghanistan

I know people are angry at the media and I think they should be for how overtly pro Military Industrial Complex they continue to be and how pundits can't get out of the early 2000s mindset at times, but I also don't think we should let that obfuscate the actual issues and real criticism that can be put on the Biden administration. They aren't completely devoid of responsibility for a bad situation here even if I think they were unjustly given too much of the blame.

Correct. The US has admitted that it left the majority of the SIVs behind.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/01/afghanistan-sivs-left-behind-state-dept-508327
 

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There are genuine things to be critical of regarding the Biden Admin regarding the withdrawal. The initial chaotic few days coupled with an overestimation regarding how long the Afghan Government could hold out being the two most notable (though those two things are effectively linked).

I don't, however, fully hold them accountable for the backlog of SIV Visa Applications given that there were about 17,000 applications in the pipeline when Biden took over back in January. The previous Admin, and Republicans in general over the past decade have been actively trying to sabotage the program, so trying to get everything un-fucked, appropriately staff (re-staff?) the agencies that process said applications, manage a once-a-century global pandemic ravaging our country, and juggle the deal made with the Taliban all contributed to the machine not running as smoothly as we'd have liked. It is my hope that now that many of these allies are at least safely and temporarily located in other countries, we can continue to get the program rolling and permanently rehome many of those folks and their families in the US and other allied countries.
 

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people are so far into the capitalist propaganda that people don't know the Soviet Union gave basic human rights
 

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Yeah the chaos of the withdrawal was a really fucking stark contrast to how perfectly executed the rest of the war had been. What a bizarre fuck up!

Maybe, just maybe, there isn't an orderly, clean way to evacuate 120K people from an immediately collapsing state at the end of a 20-year failed war? Maybe there isn't a not-super-well version of a withdrawal from a pretty not-super-well war? This insistence there was always an obviously better way to do it, in the face of a two-decade history in Afghanistan, just feels really absurd to me.

Like this:
And I think placing their hopes on the theortetical timeline around an Afghan government that they had created to buy them a couple months was overly optimistic and I still think they were too slow to react as the Taliban really started bearing down on Afghanistan

Too slow to react? Provincial capitals were handing over the keys to the kingdom to the Taliban literally overnight. When you've got an insurgent militia taking over the country, there are two ways you can react: you can accept it and get out of dodge asap, or resist it and fight back. Is our Afghanistan withdrawal really made more competent and better executed by committing more troops to fight and potentially die in a war that we've just said is pointless and we're exiting?

People internalized for years that the war in Afghanistan was lost and unwinnable but I don't think really applied that to how the exit would look too. Hence the "there was a better way to do this!" takes. There has never been a "better way" to handle the war in Afghanistan so why should the withdrawal have been such an easy layup in comparison?
 
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