I don't get what we are doing right. Like just looking at that map It doesn't even make any sense.
Same. It's unfortunate her campaign did such a bad job at showing who she is. Kamala is going to be a great VP.I had no idea she was so involved in the fight.
Raises my opinion of her a lot
Eh, Warren was my #1, but I don't see how you can look at the numbers and think she's a plus in any demographic, and not see that she's a liability in several. I never thought Biden would be pulling these numbers with men, older voters, and white women, but here we are. Warren is 100% not the candidate for those people.
Warren is in a weird situation.
I feel like even though she lasted longer in the primaries compared to Kamala, the outcome was much more damaging to her. Sorta like how winning a silver medal is sometimes worse than winning a bronze medal.
Plus the way that she hemorrhaged a huge part of her base to Buttigieg and then was attacked by Bernie's supporters makes me question who her base is and who will stick up for her, if needed.
I love me some Warren, having even donated to her during the primaries, but I feel like she would be far more effective as a senator in a democratically held senate than she would as vice president. Aren't her strengths drafting well thought out progressive legislation and government oversight? Why do people want her in a rather useless executive role? Are they just assuming Biden is going to drop dead in the next couple years and it's a back door way to get a progressive president? I'm also not comfortable at all with trusting Massachusetts to fill the vacancy of one progressive senator with another after what happened with Ted Kennedy and Scott Brown. Retaking the senate this year is in no way guaranteed, so why even put that seat in jeopardy?
Where are you two seeing that Warren isn't a plus with any demographic, that she's a liability and damaged? None of the polls that I've seen posted here has hinted at that. It's usually the opposite: that Warren is pretty well-liked by everyone (well, expect for Republicans i guess). I mean there has to be a reason that she's lasted this long. Like, Antrax, you pointed at that you didn't expect Biden to be pulling in such numbers... well, I would say that might be a case of online not reflecting the real world (no one or very few people that I've seen on ERA/Reddit likes Biden, but that clearly didn't represent the real world). The same could be true of Warren.
something about this latest scandal feels different
maybe it's the fact Trump is underwater already?
am I wrong?
White people? Why?Hey, I'm not one of those Rose Twitter bubble people. But I just do not see a world where Liz Warren is cool with the olds, white people, and men. I knew Biden polled well in the primaries, but it really is unbelievable the extent that he's polling well with certain demographics.
I think it really depends on how tomorrow goes. If the first weekday since the story broke is dominated by this story, it may get some traction. If the news media pushes it hard, and especially if the White House responds poorly and loudly, the story could find an audience. Trump is at his most vulnerable, there's blood in the water so the environment around this story is ripe for it to stick. Unlike any other time in the last 3 years, the full scope of the admins scandals seem to be weighing on people. This is beginning to feel like Bush in 06, the bottom is falling out.To me it feels like any old run of the mill Trump scandal that has grave national security implications and is forgotten about in 48 hours. I'd be shocked if we're still talking about it by Wednesday.
Oh I see, I read it as she wasn't well received by white people and was very confused.To the degree that Biden is. He's polling unbelievably well with white voters compared to previous elections.
I just don't see how those demographics above are hyped for Warren.
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Anyway, I've always wondered if it got bad enough if Trump would run away. Narcissists can't take a beating and they will quit if it looks like one is inevitable - all the while claiming victory.
If FOX is saying this then watch for some excuse why "we don't deserve him". I doubt it will be health reasons because Trump is too narcissistic to use that excuse.
This guy is always full of shit. I wish there was a way to block specific Twitter profiles on this website.Anyway, I've always wondered if it got bad enough if Trump would run away. Narcissists can't take a beating and they will quit if it looks like one is inevitable - all the while claiming victory.
Anyway, I've always wondered if it got bad enough if Trump would run away. Narcissists can't take a beating and they will quit if it looks like one is inevitable - all the while claiming victory.
If FOX is saying this then watch for some excuse why "we don't deserve him". I doubt it will be health reasons because Trump is too narcissistic to use that excuse.
If Trump has no say, Romney would probably match up against Biden pretty well.I don't see the GOP abandoing Trump. But holy shit if they do, they are going to have to throw together a new candidate fast.
Anyway, I've always wondered if it got bad enough if Trump would run away. Narcissists can't take a beating and they will quit if it looks like one is inevitable - all the while claiming victory.
If FOX is saying this then watch for some excuse why "we don't deserve him". I doubt it will be health reasons because Trump is too narcissistic to use that excuse.
If Trump has no say, Romney would probably match up against Biden pretty well.
I think he's too destructive and shameless to resign, but as a narcissist, he must be a seething ball of pure rage by now. There is no bottom and if he continues to sink in the polls, he'll act out even worse.
GOP well is poisoned, though. The MAGA vote hates Romney. He'd have no real shot at driving turnout. He might gain some non-outwardly racist and "decent" Republicans back from Biden, but I don't think it would offset losing much of the MAGA vote.If Trump has no say, Romney would probably match up against Biden pretty well.
The guy who already lost once and has voted to impeach Trump is going to be dead on arrival with their base. He would do worse than Trump.If Trump has no say, Romney would probably match up against Biden pretty well.
.GOP well is poisoned, though. The MAGA vote hates Romney. He'd have no real shot at driving turnout. He might gain some non-outwardly racist and "decent" Republicans back from Biden, but I don't think it would offset losing much of the MAGA vote.
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Maybe, but can't think of anyone else with near universal name recognition. Cruz? Jeb? Kasich?GOP well is poisoned, though. The MAGA vote hates Romney. He'd have no real shot at driving turnout. He might gain some non-outwardly racist and "decent" Republicans back from Biden, but I don't think it would offset losing much of the MAGA vote.
Anyway, I've always wondered if it got bad enough if Trump would run away. Narcissists can't take a beating and they will quit if it looks like one is inevitable - all the while claiming victory.
If FOX is saying this then watch for some excuse why "we don't deserve him". I doubt it will be health reasons because Trump is too narcissistic to use that excuse.
In the incredibly unlikely scenario that Trump and Pence aren't on the ticket, they would probably go with somebody who has no presidential aspirations but is on board with the base that would turn out for Senate races, knowing that they had no shot at the presidency. For the same reason as Romney, they wouldn't go with Jeb since he's not big into Trump. I could see Cruz or Rubio potentially bite the bullet if they're resigned to never running for president again.Maybe, but can't think of anyone else with near universal name recognition. Cruz? Jeb? Kasich?
It's improbable, I don't even know what the GOP would do with how they've tangled themselves around Trump.
Shout out to Jason Kander!
Geatz is the new heir, book itMaybe, but can't think of anyone else with near universal name recognition. Cruz? Jeb? Kasich?
It's improbable, I don't even know what the GOP would do with how they've tangled themselves around Trump.
Shout out to Jason Kander!
Ah yes, crystallizing the GOP as the obnoxious frat-boy party.
That Gasparino guy says outlandish rumors like that all the time and they're never true.
If it weren't for the legal jeopardy he will almost certainly be in the moment he no longer has the shield of the presidency I actually do think that Trump would declare "Mission Accomplished! America is Great Again!!!" and claim that he's so good at presidenting he only needed 4 years to do it.I don't know who he is, but the fact that he's even hinting at it is hilarious. "please, please resign."
Maybe, but can't think of anyone else with near universal name recognition. Cruz? Jeb? Kasich?
It's improbable, I don't even know what the GOP would do with how they've tangled themselves around Trump.
Shout out to Jason Kander!