The ads are made in a way that almost tricks your brain into thinking Obama says "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message" at the end
US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]
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And if Biden wasn't so weak, he wouldn't have to worry about Sanders and Warren coming after him. Hopefully, Bloomberg doesn't gain any more traction.
Biden is in comically bad trouble already, but, man, Bloomberg is just going to hand this to Sanders huh?
I look at that poll and two things stick out:
1) Bernie is still struggling to crack low 20%s consistently nationally, even with things going his way pretty heavily right now. (He could crack this if he has a good night tomorrow- that is if Buttigieg doesn't eat into his margins)
2) Bloomberg has a lot more room to grow. If he's surging this much now... What will he get if (when) Biden comes in fourth again tomorrow?
I think Bernie is the favorite right now, but I see that there appears to be 2 to 1 support for 'Moderate' candidates than the more 'Progressive' side. If I'm a strategist for Bloomberg, I'd advise him to not do any debates, regardless of qualifiers. He's doing just fine without them.
I agree there. I think that's why the campaigns should've pushed publicly for him to be on the debate stage.
It's silly.
You'd think the flip side of "wow these things changed fast" wouldn't be "well, guess it's settled", but here we are every day it seems.
Individual states run our elections so what would that look like.
I'd like to hear an insider explain what happened to Warren and why her campaign crumbled without seemingly any response.
Just based on court nominees alone, there's some obvious *functional* differences between Trump and name a candidate in the dem Primaries. I'm amazed that we still haven't learnt this with Kavanaugh sitting on the supreme court with a conservative majority right now.
Take every awful 5-4 decision of the last three years (that wasn't based on terrible Trump policy) and flip it the other way, and tell me that doesn't represent *functional* differences.
Partisan gerrymandering would likely be illegal right now if any democrat had won in 2016. There'd be a 5-4 majority liberal court.
Support whoever the hell you want in the primaries. Vote with your heart and don't let ANYONE tell you different. Vote for what you want the party to look like.
But if your favorite doesn't win... don't pretend like things wouldn't be functionally different had someone like Bloomberg won in 2016.
Take every awful 5-4 decision of the last three years (that wasn't based on terrible Trump policy) and flip it the other way, and tell me that doesn't represent *functional* differences.
Partisan gerrymandering would likely be illegal right now if any democrat had won in 2016. There'd be a 5-4 majority liberal court.
Support whoever the hell you want in the primaries. Vote with your heart and don't let ANYONE tell you different. Vote for what you want the party to look like.
But if your favorite doesn't win... don't pretend like things wouldn't be functionally different had someone like Bloomberg won in 2016.
If Bloomberg beats Bernie then we don't need a better candidate we need a better electorate.
Delaney looks like the guy who's up to something when in actually, he's just naturally skittish.
Yeah...the GOP ain't getting the House back.
Don't underestimate Bloomberg, do so at your peril, and I hope the other candidates see it too. He is literally every 'perceived' positive angle the republican base saw in Trump except actually isn't a complete con artist. And he is doing so from a platform that is setting itself squarely against the president while we all talk about simple policy differences. That kind of shit does in fact resonate with people outside a message board, my own family is proof enough of that and they are normally very progressive people. Most the electorate doesn't give a shit about ambition and vast plans only that things will look better the next day, and most would rather not talk politics at all so vast media ads directly targeting trump and while showing a positive message for a single candidate makes him stand out from a field of bickering over the message and soul of a single party.
My mom told me she wanted to vote for Bloomberg (she hates bernie) I told her she can't, because of his views on trans people, and that she has to vote for Warren.
I think the reason why Bloomberg is doing well is that, contrary to what people like to think, the vast majority of people want a centrist. If was Biden, but people are switching to Bloomberg, because he's saturating the airways. (my mom was going to vote for Biden.)
I think the reason why Bloomberg is doing well is that, contrary to what people like to think, the vast majority of people want a centrist. If was Biden, but people are switching to Bloomberg, because he's saturating the airways. (my mom was going to vote for Biden.)
Seemed like she just occupied an awkward niche where she wasn't as popular/progressive as Bernie but was also too far left for moderates 🤷♂️
Would be a great GE candidate/president/compromise choice but yeah
Same with my grandfather who is a lifelong Democrat but HATES Bernie.
Does it concern Sanders voters that despite all the momentum in the world, he's basically still at 20%? The never-Hillary voters from 2016 aren't coming "home", in fact they are starting to look like never-Hillary-or-Sanders right now. I really think a lot of folks misread the room when it came to Democratic electorate, it's not really a leftist party and the way 2018 was won should have proven that. I guess we'll get another lesson on Super Tuesday.
She was anti-biden but establishment Dem, the moment she put forward her monetary policy for Medicare for all and the attempted to walk back and create a 'path' to it she ended up losing two sides of a single coin and she never recovered her messaging since. She was trying to court the most fickle (Flexible) of the democratic electorate base and got burned by it. Sexism doesn't help as well.
I mean that's one poll, the other poll he is at 25%. He is still the favorite to take this thing and only money hats Bloomberg can stop him.
Bernie still has to get the boost from NH and Nevada that can improve his chances.
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Why do a plurality of voters say they agree with Sanders most on the issues?
The US is an oligarchy, it has been one for a while. The difference is that it's out in the open now and people still don't see it. Bernie and Warren need to come out swinging and let it be known that Bloomberg is just another billionaire corrupting our political system.
Guy whose wife only loves him when his 401(k) is up? He talking about my husband?
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Unfortunately it seems our electorate is beyond saving at this point. We reached that bridge in 2016.
It is funny that she's seen as establishment dem when she's been in the Senate for 6 years and Bernie was there for 30 years lol. Yeah yeah he's an independent sometimes ok.
I imagine a lot of them are like me. We mostly agree with him on ideological grounds but believe his platform/campaign is intellectually bankrupt and almost anyone else would be better at actually implementing a progressive agenda.
The data doesn't support that. Warren is bombing in the polls below Biden and Bloomberg
I like the ideas, the premise behind them. But they're just that: ideas. Ideas are different from a plan. And a plan is different to the final incarnation of implemented policy.
Bernie is great at the first. It's the other two; the ones that are really important (Nancy Pelosi continues to show that in comparison to the previous chucklehead Speaker we had) that I have serious doubts about.
Please remind my mother of this, because she thinks that while Hunter is somehow tanking Biden that Sanders' own FBI thingie wouldn't somehow come up.
There are going to be mystery FBI investigations into literally whoever the nominee is.
That data shows more people are willing to vote for Sanders or like him as an ideologue more. What the person you're talking to is saying, is that they personally like his ideals but think his plans are lacking. 95% of people don't know the actual policy proposals beyond "He supports M4A and the GND!"
It's insane to see Biden's fall. Bloomberg gonna eat his lunch.
Yet another (probably) failed run for Biden and one that was entirely his to lose.
This is exactly it. Obviously, it helps to have money but he's the only candidate who's taking Trump head on while the others are fighting each other over their platforms. I don't understand how the other candidates don't understand that this election is ALL about Trump.
There is no way that Bloomberg's racist billionaire ass is more moderate than Biden, bruh.
I can't believe I'm here defending Biden again because fuck that gropey weirdo fuckhead.
I'ma say it again, this field is Warren and a bunch of super-trash, and Warren isn't going to come close to winning the nomination.
I didn't say Bloomberg was more moderate. I said he's a better moderate option because I think he's a better campaigner.
We wasted the last 13 months saying Biden was a sure thing to take it all for absolutely no reason in the end. Lmfao. What an incredible waste of time.
So what would be the best unity ticket?
Bernie/Klobuchar?
Bloomberg/Warren?
Bernie/Harris?
Buttigieg/Warren?
To be honest I have no idea who to pair Pete with.
Bernie/Klobuchar?
Bloomberg/Warren?
Bernie/Harris?
Buttigieg/Warren?
To be honest I have no idea who to pair Pete with.
I mean, most veterans in this thread would constantly remind people that shit only really matters when voting season begins.
Still, you're right that many weren't expecting Biden to flop out-the-gate.
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