You dont have to worry about that here. Everyone here (minus like one or two lurkers) are voting democrat in the general. The whole "please say that you will vote for Biden in the general" stuff has been done before and it always comes across as strange.
are we still doing the meta complaining about OT users? I thought that wasnt allowed.PoliERA, sounds reasonable. Not buying it with OT. A sizable portion there hate Democrats more than Republicans.
I looked that up last night because it didn't sound right. From what I could gather, it was communist until 1981, when it was pivoting to socialism. Her parents immigrated to the US in 1984, so it's questionable whether the incident she was talking about happened during socialism. Then it seems to have gone more into crony capitalism from about 1989. That was just from a quick look though. I wonder too with her being a Republican whether her parents would even be able to immigrate here under current GOP policies.
He wasn't ready for it and Chappaquiddick was still relatively fresh in the news (which sounds quaint to the point of nonsense by modern news cycle standards lol). Of course, he wasn't quite ready in '80 either...So in the midst of our discussion about 1976 and 1980 I forgot that Kennedy didn't actually run in the primary in 1976. Why didn't he? 1980 was a disaster, while I see why he wanted to challenge Carter in 1980 I don't think that was the best idea. If he ran in 1976 he probably would've won two terms. And we'd have UHC baked in to the law and society for decades now.
Style over substance - she's only slightly to the right of Bernie, but more eloquent in expressing how radical her reforms would be and more invested in building relationships with the party. Also has a plan for literally everything.I live to see someone call Elizabeth Warren a "compromise" candidate.
Bernie is polling quite well in the early states so there is zero reason for him to drop yet.
Not sure that Chappaquiddick is 'quaint' by today's standards. He'd have been toast had he run in 76. It really helped sink him in 80.He wasn't ready for it and Chappaquiddick was still relatively fresh in the news (which sounds quaint to the point of nonsense by modern news cycle standards lol). Of course, he wasn't quite ready in '80 either...
Yep.Bernie is polling quite well in the early states so there is zero reason for him to drop yet.
Well, I think he was ready in 1980 but challenging a sitting President of the same party was too disruptive and it tore the party apart. It obviously also turned voters off, given Reagan's ridiculously huge victory.He wasn't ready for it and Chappaquiddick was still relatively fresh in the news (which sounds quaint to the point of nonsense by modern news cycle standards lol). Of course, he wasn't quite ready in '80 either...
I meant quaint as in a scandal that was about 7-8 years old was still fresh enough to hurt him, when the media churns through and forgets scandals on a weekly basis now.Not sure that Chappaquiddick is 'quaint' by today's standards. He'd have been toast had he run in 76. It really helped sink him in 80.
And frankly, it should have.
He was asked point blank why he was running for president and he couldn't answer. tbh he might never have actually wanted to be president at all and just ran out of obligation.Well, I think he was ready in 1980 but challenging a sitting President of the same party was too disruptive and it tore the party apart. It obviously also turned voters off, given Reagan's ridiculously huge victory.
Unless it's Benghazi and emails emails emailsI meant quaint as in a scandal that was about 7-8 years old was still fresh enough to hurt him, when the media churns through and forgets scandals on a weekly basis now.
But it's such a massive 'scandal'. A woman died, and Kennedy got away with the lightest of punishments for the thing we factually know he did (leaving her to drown and not reporting it until the morning). I don't think the media would have forgotten something like that in a few weeks even today.I meant quaint as in a scandal that was about 7-8 years old was still fresh enough to hurt him, when the media churns through and forgets scandals on a weekly basis now.
Both are why it makes no sense why he was receiving positive coverage last night. It was sometimes difficult to understand what point he was trying to make.The black people = poor thing is horrendous and keeps happening. The pivot from a question about reparations to saying 'parents don't know how to raise their children' has some awful implications.
But...
Hearing him talk about leaving the radio on at night or listening to records. That sort of scares me just as much. Not because he's OLD. Because he is so catastrophically out of touch.
I have accepted that I will never, ever, have the luxury of being as hands off about politics as I was when Obama was President ever again for the rest of my life.Christ, Trump and McConnell have pushed through *150* conservative judges. Our judiciary is going to be so badly stained by this administration and this Senate for decades.
You shouldn't have been hands off during Obama. That was the problem. People took 8 years off and the gop gobbled up everything except the presidency. Then they got that too.I have accepted that I will never, ever, have the luxury of being as hands off about politics as I was when Obama was President ever again for the rest of my life.
I have come to terms with that. These forces will never go away. They will never stop trying to make things as good as possible for themselves at the expense of everyone else.
True restraint—whereby the United States significantly reduces its military commitments overseas—will be all but impossible for a Democratic president to achieve in a deliberate and orderly fashion. It would involve too many compromises of core principles. Progressive presidents will not want to pursue the destruction of the alliance system, acquiesce in nuclear proliferation, or embrace the imperialist notion of spheres of influence. They will be unable and unwilling to promise credibly never to intervene militarily.
It is possible that Sanders and Warren find themselves stuck between the mainstream national-security worldview they have articulated and their aspirations to opt out of geopolitical competition and military interventions. This could hobble the early years of their administration. Alternatively, they could embrace a practical and modest progressive approach. This would seek to pull back from the Middle East, keep the basic structure of America's role in Europe and Asia intact while modernizing the military, sharpen the ideological divide with authoritarian states, and endeavor to change the world on specific issues, much as Obama did by opening up relations with Cuba, prioritizing climate change, and playing a constructive role in international institutions. In this, much of the blob would agree. If Warren or Sanders emerges as the nominee, there will undoubtedly be tensions and disagreements with the Democratic foreign-policy establishment, but this type of practical progressivism may form the basis for a rapprochement and an avoidance of the kind of schism Trump brought to Republican foreign policy.
I have accepted that I will never, ever, have the luxury of being as hands off about politics as I was when Obama was President ever again for the rest of my life.
I have come to terms with that. These forces will never go away. They will never stop trying to make things as good as possible for themselves at the expense of everyone else.
People trying to slant the system to benefit themselves at everyone else's expense have existed since the dawn of civilization. The fight will never end, but it's always worth fighting.I have accepted that I will never, ever, have the luxury of being as hands off about politics as I was when Obama was President ever again for the rest of my life.
I have come to terms with that. These forces will never go away. They will never stop trying to make things as good as possible for themselves at the expense of everyone else.
Until it hits a trump court, but good news I guess (there was actually one dissent)
That's completely fair.You shouldn't have been hands off during Obama. That was the problem. People took 8 years off and the gop gobbled up everything except the presidency. Then they got that too.
Just a reminder that we had 34% turnout in 2014 and lost three very winnable Senate seats (AK, CO and NC were all within a few points).You shouldn't have been hands off during Obama. That was the problem. People took 8 years off and the gop gobbled up everything except the presidency. Then they got that too.
Christ, Trump and McConnell have pushed through *150* conservative judges. Our judiciary is going to be so badly stained by this administration and this Senate for decades.
My take: Warren was disappointing. She is definitely benefiting from nobody going after her at this point. The fact that all of Biden's best moments were when he attacked her speaks to my fear of her not knowing what to do when she's the target.
Harris had a good debate. It wasn't her first debate, but it ALSO wasn't her second. She did what she needed to do.
But HOLY HELL none of this matters because Biden's answer to the slavery question is drowning everything out.
So far this year, retailers in the United States have announced more than 8,200 store closings, already exceeding last year's total of 5,589, according to Coresight Research.
My take: Warren was disappointing. She is definitely benefiting from nobody going after her at this point. The fact that all of Biden's best moments were when he attacked her speaks to my fear of her not knowing what to do when she's the target.
Harris had a good debate. It wasn't her first debate, but it ALSO wasn't her second. She did what she needed to do.
But HOLY HELL none of this matters because Biden's answer to the slavery question is drowning everything out.
CoolShe came off like a centrist borefest with no convictions. When confronted about her record on criminal justice, she basically yelled Fake News and said a bunch of words. She had an awful night. She is done.
Oh, and the jokes and then laughing at your own jokes. Was she drunk last night?
Retail is dying, but that's not due to any economic downturn. People just aren't buying shit at stores anymore. We need to accept Trump is going into reelection with sub-4% unemployment and a strong consumer.This is mostly a PR article for Old Navy, but one line struck me hard. If you don't think we're in a recession or heading towards one very soon, you're not paying attention.
My take: Warren was disappointing. She is definitely benefiting from nobody going after her at this point. The fact that all of Biden's best moments were when he attacked her speaks to my fear of her not knowing what to do when she's the target.
Harris had a good debate. It wasn't her first debate, but it ALSO wasn't her second. She did what she needed to do.
But HOLY HELL none of this matters because Biden's answer to the slavery question is drowning everything out.
Retail is dying, but that's not due to any economic downturn. People just aren't buying shit at stores anymore. We need to accept Trump is going into reelection with sub-4% unemployment and a strong consumer.
You're right that retail is dying, but the pace accelerating so much stood out to me. It's just one of many red flags.Retail is dying, but that's not due to any economic downturn. People just aren't buying shit at stores anymore. We need to accept Trump is going into reelection with sub-4% unemployment and a strong consumer.
That Kamala got that question while Klobuchar (you know, the other prosecutor on stage) was given softballs is total bullshit. I said it in the Debate thread, at this point people are expecting Kamala to apologize for a system that guys like Biden and Bernie ushered in before she was ever a public servant. But hey, it is what it is.And that moderator sent a Tulsi dagger at her, which I didn't expect.
Biden though, it's about time he gets taken to task. He has had three debates. Each of them he has either not been great or had some massive fuck up. I hope that slavery comment is the last straw, but it likely won't. He is out of touch.
Fucking exactly. George W. Bush and Mitch McConnell were/are just as bad as Trump. I would argue they were/are even worse (largely on account of being more effective at wielding power than Trump). Trump is just louder and more upfront with his villainy.You shouldn't have been hands off during Obama. That was the problem. People took 8 years off and the gop gobbled up everything except the presidency. Then they got that too.
Just a reminder that we had 34% turnout in 2014 and lost three very winnable Senate seats (AK, CO and NC were all within a few points).
Had Democrats turned up in decent numbers and held those seats, we would have won the Senate in 2016 even if Trump still won, and thus been able to block his court nominations. Obama could have pushed Garland through during the lame duck and flipped the balance of the Supreme Court.
Same with the close Senate races in 2016 (NC, PA, WI, MO). Any liberal who just didn't want to vote for Clinton, maaaan and then proceeded not to vote at all, or didn't vote in the midterms is way higher on my shit list than any Stein or Bernie write-in voter. Downballot matters.
Retail is dying, but that's not due to any economic downturn. People just aren't buying shit at stores anymore. We need to accept Trump is going into reelection with sub-4% unemployment and a strong consumer.
I was in college during the 2014 elections and lived in a house with six other people. I was the only one who voted that year.IIRC, the 2014 Midterm turnout for voters under 35 was one of the most pathetic stats I've ever seen. I want to say it was around 11% but I'm not even sure it broke double digits. I was fucking fuming at everyone my age for weeks after that election.
Then there was the the insufferable media, with wall-to-wall coverage of "EBOLA AND ISIS BOTH COMING TO INVADE AMERICA! THANKS, OBAMA." Coverage which stopped almost literally overnight after election day.
That election just pissed me off so fucking much. Udall in CO hurt especially, because him and Wyden teamed up for a lot of good shit on technology and privacy/NSA issues.
2010 was the first election I was eligible for, and that one sucked too, but at least I could feel good about my vote helping Donnelly narrowly keep his House seat that year. In 2014, 70% of the positions on the ballot were uncontested Republicans, and the few Democrats that were on the ballot all lost.
I have always been the weird one who "cares too much" about politics.
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As expected, but made worse due to the Copmala stuff. She hasn't shaken that off yet. Not sure she ever will at this rate.
And that moderator sent a Tulsi dagger at her, which I didn't expect.
It's hardly equivalent. Klobuchar was a county attorney, Kamala was the attorney general of California (which we're often reminded is the second largest Department of Justice next to the United States Department of Justice!). Kamala has staked a lot of her campaign on her background as a prosecutor (naturally, it's taken up a far larger share of her life in public service than being Hennepin County attorney has for Klobuchar), knowing how to move the levers of power and change based on her experience being on the inside of that system. That is not the cornerstone of Klobuchar's campaign. This is also basically a three- our four-person race, and Klobuchar is not one of those three or four anyway.That Kamala got that question while Klobuchar (you know, the other prosecutor on stage) was given softballs is total bullshit.