Garbage burns. Dont want your garbo candidate to catch fire? Dont be next to the incinerator. All these people gaslighting voters with "THIS IS HOW TRUMP WON" during a fucking Primary is some doo-doo trash.You can battle it out in a fistfight without tossing molotovs that threaten to burn everything down around you.
I'm hard-clapping right now
Damn, that's good.
New Hampshire feeling the Bern?
Garbage burns. Dont want your garbo candidate to catch fire? Dont be next to the incinerator. All these people gaslighting voters with "THIS IS HOW TRUMP WON" during a fucking Primary is some doo-doo trash.
Fucking kill me. I love Liz, but seriously, I question her capacity to make smart decisions. Being in any cahoots with a person who is responsible for the loss of the biggest slam dunk election in history is some self-awareness lacking shit
1) people are DYING, cant afford to pay their medical Bill's, the coast is going to be underwater, some of the water here is undrinkable, people cant afford insulin, etc etc. I think you've falsely identified the "incinerator" in this equation. I mean, if you wanna keep defending garbage candidate with garbage candidate solutions who want to "ReaCH aCRosS tHe iSlE" centrist do-nothing, please let's not pretend for standing for anything, hmm?When all you have is an incinerator everything looks like it needs to be burned. That's just it- the actual content and context of people opposing Sanders hasn't mattered- all that matters is that they oppose him and thus they must burn. Bernie's hired on human trash fires like Sirota, Turner and Gray, and the result has been the petty grievance campaign you'd expect from them. This isn't gaslighting, its saying that burning the party down in the name of victory for a singular candidate is actively bad. And this HAS happened before to the dems.
Of course you question her "ability to make smart decision". Of course.
Fucking kill me. I love Liz, but seriously, I question her capacity to make smart decisions. Being in any cahoots with a person who is responsible for the loss of the biggest slam dunk election in history is some self-awareness lacking shit
Warren actually reaching out to all aspects of the Democratic party is why she's going to win. Unlike other campaigns who if the person isn't already on board just get yelled at for not being pure enough....Having decades of contacts within the Democratic party is a good thing if, you know, you want to actually win a Democratic primary. Who knew?
Lol
Honestly, if this association bothers you but Sirota, Nina Turner and Briahna Joy Gray don't I think it might be time to pull back and look at the bigger picture.Fucking kill me. I love Liz, but seriously, I question her capacity to make smart decisions. Being in any cahoots with a person who is responsible for the loss of the biggest slam dunk election in history is some self-awareness lacking shit
Lol
Also. Two front runners in the primary hooking up to go to victory (hopefully)? Gosh who would want THAT?!
Bernie's campaign staff have absolutely -50 do do with my criticism lolHonestly, if this association bothers you but Sirota, Nina Turner and Briahna Joy Gray don't I think it might be time to pull back and look at the bigger picture.
One of those losers ainy running in the election and this close to passing the preferred candidate right now.Warren shouldn't consult the biggest loser from 2016. She should instead team up with...the guy who lost to the biggest loser?
This line of thinking never makes sense.
Ah, but you see, he only lost because it was RIGGED! If every state was a caucus state, and if the DNC agreed to hold ten debates a week, and if the superdelegates had all overturned the will of the majority to support Bernie, he would have won.Warren shouldn't consult the biggest loser from 2016. She should instead team up with...the guy who lost to the biggest loser?
This line of thinking never makes sense.
Because they don't think Bernie lost. They think it was stolen from him and given to the person who lost.Warren shouldn't consult the biggest loser from 2016. She should instead team up with...the guy who lost to the biggest loser?
This line of thinking never makes sense.
What? The mere fact of talking to Hillary? You don't know what the deal is or why they're talking. Maybe it's to avoid mistakes she made. It's ridiculous to say just talking to her is a bad ideaBernie's campaign staff have absolutely -50 do do with my criticism lol
I mean, be salty all you want about those terrible "bernie bros", bit cmon, yall cant honestly tell me this is a good idea
"Democrats lose because they don't reach out to the people who disagree with them"What? The mere fact of talking to Hillary? You don't know what the deal is or why they're talking. Maybe it's to avoid mistakes she made. It's ridiculous to say just talking to her is a bad idea
This isnt even a straw man. It's like....what's thinner than straw? Only thing that comes to mind is Bernie's skin.I mean, be salty all you want about those terrible "bernie bros", bit cmon, yall cant honestly tell me this is a good idea
You said you "question her ability to make smart decisions" because she might be consulting with a Dem vet & power player. Yet you don't question Bernie's ability to "make smart decisions" when he's staffed up with garbage people, grifters and Jill Stein supporters.Bernie's campaign staff have absolutely -50 do do with my criticism lol
I mean, be salty all you want about those terrible "bernie bros", bit cmon, yall cant honestly tell me this is a good idea
I desperately need to see this board in action if hes nominated. Desperately.Because they don't think Bernie lost. They think it was stolen from him and given to the person who lost.
The same thing they'll be thinking when he loses again.
Literally anyone involved in Hillary 2016 needs to sit this one out. That's what I'm saying.What? The mere fact of talking to Hillary? You don't know what the deal is or why they're talking. Maybe it's to avoid mistakes she made. It's ridiculous to say just talking to her is a bad idea
Let's look at the polls.You said you "question her ability to make smart decisions" because she might be consulting with a Dem vet & power player. Yet you don't question Bernie's ability to "make smart decisions" when he's staffed up with garbage people, grifters and Jill Stein supporters.
Why not extend this to the campaign that lost to hers?Literally anyone involved in Hillary 2016 needs to sit this one out. That's what I'm saying.
Huh?
Anyone involved with a campaign that failed to win the nomination in 2016 needs to sit this out. That's all I'm saying.Literally anyone involved in Hillary 2016 needs to sit this one out. That's what I'm saying.
Anyone involved with a campaign that failed to win the nomination in 2016 needs to sit this out. That's all I'm saying.
Ask an overwhelming majority of the candidate running with his policy proposals ;)
Oh, so this is based solely on policy proposals then?Ask an overwhelming majority of the candidate running with his policy proposals ;)
So it was Bernie who was so odiousAsk an overwhelming majority of the candidate running with his policy proposals ;)
And none of his baggage.Ask an overwhelming majority of the candidate running with his policy proposals ;)
Define baggage. Please, I would like a list
Warren actually reaching out to all aspects of the Democratic party is why she's going to win. Unlike other campaigns who if the person isn't already on board just get yelled at for not being pure enough....Having decades of contacts within the Democratic party is a good thing if, you know, you want to actually win a Democratic primary. Who knew?
No.
And if you want to make progress on those things you have to work within the party. Including with people who spout meaningless platitudes because moderates/Is like them. When you hire on people who refused to vote against a literal White Supremacist but who have no problem yelling at an airline/s customer service peopl on twitter for hours because they're going to miss an international wedding because their standby ticket didn't pan out, its going to cause issues doing that. Warren having been able to earn trust with Clinton and her team to the point where they were running their policy proposals by Warren before pushing them out is a big positive sign that she can actually build bridges instead of burning them.1) people are DYING, cant afford to pay their medical Bill's, the coast is going to be underwater, some of the water here is undrinkable, people cant afford insulin, etc etc. I think you've falsely identified the "incinerator" in this equation. I mean, if you wanna keep defending garbage candidate with garbage candidate solutions who want to "ReaCH aCRosS tHe iSlE" centrist do-nothing, please let's not pretend for standing for anything, hmm?
2) say what you really mean. Or define what you're implying. I'm a Warren advocate. But shes done plenty of stupid shit from my view. Let's hear it.
Exactly correct. Warren is doing the right thing building a coalition (which is the only real path to victory) while certain other candidates surround themselves with staffers who are pro-doxxing on Twitter, stoke conspiracy theories and get defensive about having supported grifting troll & popular Putin state dinner guest, Dr. Jill Stein.Pretty much what I see. Warren's ability to build a D coalition is what sets her over Sanders IMO. There are a lot of garbage Dems in Washington that will need to be wrangled to make lasting change.
She's leading him in them. It's why she's sharing center stage w/ Biden at the upcoming debates.
Well, perhaps I was hoping youd present some realistic and logic reasonings behind your post aside from trivial stuff like "hes too old" or even venturing into right wing talking point territory like "he has 3 houses and an expensive coat!"
I question his ability to make smart decisions.Well, perhaps I was hoping youd present some realistic and logic reasonings behind your post aside from trivial stuff like "hes too old" or even venturing into right wing talking point territory like "he has 3 houses and an expensive coat!"
I mean, all ya gotta say is "I just dont like him" lol. Petty. Fair, but petty
The axiom of "Of course no one could possibly dislike Bernie in good faith!" is so tiring.Well, perhaps I was hoping youd present some realistic and logic reasonings behind your post aside from trivial stuff like "hes too old" or even venturing into right wing talking point territory like "he has 3 houses and an expensive coat!"
I mean, all ya gotta day is "I just dont like him" lol. Petty. Fair, but petty
Yet here we are. You still havnt done it lolThe axiom of "Of course no one could possibly dislike Bernie in good faith!" is so tiring.
I'm impressed
"Democrats lose because they don't reach out to the people who disagree with them"
"Here is why Warren reaching out to an extremely well-known Democrat she's had very public disagreements with is a bad idea"
I dislike plenty about Sanders. I dont agree with his stance on the filibuster or sex workers. I agree that hes a bit too crotchety sometimes.Literally any reason whatsoever to dislike any candidate not named Bernie Sanders---Totally reasonable!
Literally any critique of Bernie Sanders--that's not realistic and logical!
Valuable and thoughtful discourse such as dismissing Warren because she may have had a meeting with Hillary Clinton?I'm impressed
We're getting so close to valuable and thoughtful discourse
I dunno.
I don't want Bernie to run in 2020. I want a younger, positive candidate who can rally and electrify the ENTIRE base, run on Bernie's platform, not be so goddamn crotchety, be able to understand some nuance within the party instead of being all or nothing. Beto does much of, if not all those things. And what's funny? The republicans have nothing against him accept that he was in a badass band and said fuck on stage. He also seems to be positive in the eyes of minorities, which Bernie fails so goddamn hard at.
I mean, idk why the hell I'm doing this because you aren't actually interested in a good faith argument but, I'll humor you.