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US PoliEra 2019 |OT6| Have You Hurd About These GOP Retirements?
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Brain worms.
Edit: I didn't notice that you wrote almost the same thing. LOL
Make this one stick since he hates it. He actually likes being called Cocaine Mitch.
FWIW, I think there are actual rules in the Senate that prevent Senators from going absolutely ham on each other. Stewart and Scarborough don't have to look McConnell in the face in the morning or take any orders from him.
There's rules against swearing. Theres nothing that has been said by Stewart or Joe that McConnell hasn't done himself about democratic opponents or the squad
If chuck doesn't want to engage because he doesn't want to make it awkward next time they talk to each other then he's a weak scared little boy undeserving of the position he's been given and is completely unaware of the importance of his job and how much we need him to be good at it.
Other than the unanimous bullshit, I don't mind using trade to push other countries to address concerns that affect everyone.
Wait, what? You're lying right? You have to be lying. That's just....*stares* Oh, the onion. Thank god.
Agreed, the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act does this and I think it's brilliant.
How about someone addresses Brazil and our need to do something to protect the Amazon.. with I dunno., trade or sanctions or something
That's going the mean that Bernie will actually have to debate not read from his script.
It was obviously the Onion to me from the jump as Trump is an uncultured illiterate, which is the joke, I guess, in that Onion article.
The entire point of TPP is exactly what Warren is saying we need to do but she was shitting on it back then
Classic trade deal politics. Everyone else's trade deal is bad for people.
The problem is, Trump is almost impossible to satirize. He find the bottom of the barrel, and then keep going till he hits bedrock, then keep going because there's nothing that's beneath him.
They both aren't racist. A message Santorum had to ask for.
Hey remembered when Meadows said they are going to send Obama back to Kenya or wherever....
Chuck Schumer is absolutely a weak fuckboi who shouldn't have his position in the Senate.
TBH, Franken being a creep isn't just bad in general because sexual assault is bad and he had to go for that reason, but from a narrower perspective, he was maybe the most cutting, adversarial voice we had in the Senate, all due respect to Warren and Harris. And then to look at the minority leader and see Schumer acting like a fucking good-ol'-boy asshole is too much on top of that.
I was just in Idaho last week an was pleasantly surprised that in a whole week I only saw 2 nazi tattoos, 3 trump shirts, and 1 trump flag on a house. 0 maga hats and 0 bumper stickers the whole week.
neither her nor Murray are known to be huge firebrands who get in the way of the leadership (well, very few in the senate aren't, and Murray and Stabenow are in the leadership) so this is notable.
I wonder if the more terrible Trump behaves, the more it helps Biden because people just want a mature experienced President again.
Yikes! Where was that? I'll see Trump stuff around town, but never nazi stuff.
That or "oh my god, this country is even more racist than I thought, better nominate a safe white old guy again"
the problem I see a lot of primary voters having is that the most clued in Dems are the ones looking at head to head polls this far out and seeing Biden doing the best and thinking that's the way to go, which... isn't a great way to judge electability before everyone has high name ID.
Yeah. It's still early. I hope Biden doesn't embarrass himself (and the party), but I also hope the tide shifts to another candidate.
Well, up by coeur d'lane and hayden lake, which is where the feds raided that white supremecist compound a few years back so... I guess some of them are still in the area
It is way disturbing to be on a puiblic beach and turn to the left and see a shirtless skinhead with a nazi tattoo though. Also super disturbing to be at a playground chasing your trouble making toddler and see a dude standing there open carrying too... but at least it wasn't the same dude because it was hard enough not freaking out when they were separate people
I've heard Coeur d'Alene has gone to shit, which makes me sad. I lived there for a few years a lifetime ago. The nazis would come and do their parade, and the whole town would show up and protest them, but I have a feeling things are different in the Trump era. Not to mention meth and opioids are rampant up there.
The issue with everyone saying "just attack Biden!" is...he's popular. And there is such a thing as going too hard. Harris' attack worked because it wasn't mean spirited, it wasn't piling on, and it was very measured. There is a risk that literally everyone with knives out for Biden makes him sympathetic. You have to pick and choose when and how to attack. You can't just throw everything and the kitchen sink at him and hope something sticks. It reeks of desperation. It also gives an opening to have a real good comeback to one or two of the attacks and put everyone else on their heels.
this is why I want the 1% to attack him. if it works great, if it hurts them they weren't gonna win anyway
It can still end up helping Biden, though. Kinda a rally the flag effect. Biden has 100% name rec. People have ideas as to what he is, what he stands for even if they're not really based in reality. TBH, he's as close to Generic D as you can get, considering people just associate him with the Obama years, and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
If things don't drastically change after the second debate, Dems should just rally behind Biden. We're not going to convince old and/or black voters to go for somebody else. Kamala might have a shot with black voters, but old people I'm more skeptical about.
yeah, but that would be depressing. I feel like if Biden is elected this country is still screwed, it just won't happen quite as fast
People have still been calling Harris' attack mean spirited, though. Most don't seem to want any hints of Democratic infighting...even during the debates.
If Biden really ends up being the nominee, I hope he can show more sharpness and alacrity than he has so far. He looks a little lost at the moment, and given his age I'm worried that it's just the way he is now.
Less depressing than Donald Trump. But yes, still depressing.
The party needs to whittle down the candidate list dramatically. Yang shouldn't be there beyond this next debate for instance. It should be Top 5 at most.
Right now your average American is looking at the Democratic field and just tuning it out, "I'll pick when things get serious." It's like waiting until the playoffs to pick a team.... just like skiping the whole NBA season and start paying attention when the playoffs hit and you have the real contenders.
The longer there's an absurdly large field, the more it helps Biden and the less it helps the contenders actually gain focus and attention for their platform.
Not to mention the absurdity of this many candidates and each of them getting like 5 minutes total to talk per hour of a debate.
Right now your average American is looking at the Democratic field and just tuning it out, "I'll pick when things get serious." It's like waiting until the playoffs to pick a team.... just like skiping the whole NBA season and start paying attention when the playoffs hit and you have the real contenders.
The longer there's an absurdly large field, the more it helps Biden and the less it helps the contenders actually gain focus and attention for their platform.
Not to mention the absurdity of this many candidates and each of them getting like 5 minutes total to talk per hour of a debate.
It was my first time in the area and I thought it was mostly lovely tbh. I was expecting it to be a lot more run down and red necky than it turned out.
I did eat at a cracker barrel for the first time while I was there, and feel like the midwest has a lot of explaining to do as far as that is concerned, but that's another story.
This is the big issue with huge debates: they just help those in good position hide their deficiencies. There's so many candidates and so little time that no one can really interrogate any single position.
Frankly, there's just too many damn people on stage. A complaint last time might have been that the debates were too restrictive, but we learned more about the candidates we had at the time than we are now.
Also, hucksters like Williamson and Yang shouldn't even be up there. That they even have a seat at the table is sad.
Normally, I would agree with this. But I think that, in Biden's case, wounding the "guy everyone loves" might actually work against Biden's perceived electability.
People love Biden, yeah, but that's not the only reason (or even main reason, I'd argue) people are rallying around him. Biden's support right now mostly comes from the perception that he's the "Tough Uncle." The Fighter. And that he's going to take the fight to Trump and treat him like he treated Paul Ryan in 2012. But I don't think Biden has that in him anymore. And if Biden gets his clock cleaned again and tries to lean into the "Wahhh why are you big bad people being so mean to me?? ;(" Yeah, his fans will rally around him because he IS "Uncle Joe." But, for a lot of people, I think the thought that first manifested after Kamala dog walked him is going to reappear tenfold: If he can't handle friendly fire, how's he going to handle Trump?
I think Biden and his campaign tried this right after the last debate with their, "Why would Kamala do this? She knows me. She knew Beau." But they jumped off of that real quick because it only played into how weak he looked on that stage.
At the very least Cummings is showing more reasons why he's being singled out.
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