Oh, so it comes from the same line of thought where "bernie is not a democrat" matters for anything. Then it's no wonder why I completely don't care.
People threw a fit when he said something after Pelosi/Schumer re:trump Oval Office address, too.
No, but it's a big part of how you build a RICO case.
It implicates everyone.
Teflon Don never had a million different federal investigations out his ass either. We'll see how it unfolds.They don't call him Teflon Don for nothing. Mixing metaphors, but his friends will jump on the grenade(s) and he'll act like he didn't know what was going on.
Teflon is cheap and outdated, just like Dump.They don't call him Teflon Don for nothing. Mixing metaphors, but his friends will jump on the grenade(s) and he'll act like he didn't know what was going on.
you know that is 100% where this is headed. If Mueller doesn't charge any Americans for conspiring with Russia to influence the election, we'll never hear the end of it. I mean, sure, there was all kinds of shady shit going down, campaign finance violations, his entire inaugural committee was a giant grift/bribery scheme, but I thought this was supposed to be about ~COLLUSION~! Checkmate, libs.I don't see "collusion" on that list. Totally clears the president.
They don't call him Teflon Don for nothing. Mixing metaphors, but his friends will jump on the grenade(s) and he'll act like he didn't know what was going on.
Reagan got away scot-free by leaning on dementia, and Trump will lean on being a buffoon.
Mueller's speciality is putting away "Telfon Don's"They don't call him Teflon Don for nothing. Mixing metaphors, but his friends will jump on the grenade(s) and he'll act like he didn't know what was going on.
Reagan got away scot-free by leaning on dementia, and Trump will lean on being a buffoon.
Yep. If I remember correctly Biden apologized after it came out (the day his 2008 campaign launched) and then apologized again to Obama during a primary debate for it months later when the moderator brought it up and Obama publicly accepted the apology.
Bernie never would have gotten anywhere with party loyalty because his policy positions that actually impact the lives of people go against those in charge of the party. He needs to gain attention through other means in order to push those policies, and has been successful with that strategy.Your reaction is a microcosm of why Democrats don't like Bernie, why should we? If he doesn't respect us or the party itself why should we respect him? If he doesn't want to get the perks he knows where the door is, the party's already given him more than he deserves and he still shits on them at every opportunity. But he won't leave because he desperately needs the party to be politically relevant or he goes back to being an obscure politician from Vermont.
That's true. Amusingly, AOC didn't get a single criticism for being interviewed on Maddow that day about the Oval Office address because she has more politically savviness the Bernie ever did. Because she knew not to cross that line.
In this day and age I have to wonder if some of these are Russians tho
In this day and age I have to wonder if some of these are Russians tho
Bernie never would have gotten anywhere with party loyalty because his policy positions that actually impact the lives of people go against those in charge of the party. He needs to gain attention through other means in order to push those policies, and has been successful with that strategy.
There's litterally no path to victory for him with people that care more about decorum than the real world effects of healthcare policy designed around corporate influence.
Santorum is melting and leaking on CNN. Both Cuomo and Bakari are telling him he's lying.
Sounds like Matt Davis doesn't know how to do his taxes properly.
This is my story except I'm a decent human being so wouldn't vote for Trump. First time I'm owing federal. Biggest tax bill I've gotten so far. Going to be a lot of people pissed. Wish tax time came around Election Day.
This is my story except I'm a decent human being so wouldn't vote for Trump. First time I'm owing federal. Biggest tax bill I've gotten so far. Going to be a lot of people pissed. Wish tax time came around Election Day.
Bernie has worked his way into dem leadership but he still has outsider status with a lot of people. I would say this is a good thing and moves like this play well to those who dislike the dem party establishment, by giving a show of "independence". Figures like this are important going forward for pushing progressive policy, given we need a broad coaliton. Bernie signal boosted the Abrams State of the Union and i doubt will be taking away anyone from the event who was interested.How about doing an interview like everybody else or not doing anything that day? Something which won't anger Democrats?
In this day and age I have to wonder if some of these are Russians tho
Does it actually anger people that aren't already Bernie haters? Like, where do you see this outside of yourselves?How about doing an interview like everybody else or not doing anything that day? Something which won't anger Democrats?
Bernie has worked his way into dem leadership but he still has outsider status with a lot of people. I would say this is a good thing and moves like this play well to those who dislike the dem party establishment, by giving a show of "independence". Figures like this are important going forward for pushing progressive policy, given we need a broad coaliton. Bernie signal boosted the Abrams State of the Union and i doubt will be taking away anyone from the event who was interested.
Does it actually anger people that aren't already Bernie haters? Like, where do you see this outside of yourselves?
People threw a fit over the last time he did this (Oval Office response) — did it actually do any harm like they said it would?
This is a double edged sword, which doesn't always pay off. It hinders his relationships with his colleagues, gives him more obstacles to getting laws he wants passed, and maintains a conflict between his group and everyone else's. There is a time to sit down and get to work with the group but if fails to do that all he's doing is posturing not among the changes they want. Too many are more interested in simply spiting the Man rather than the change they talk about, which hurts everybody.
Progressives policy moving forward and having a broad coalition only counts if he actually works with the group, as it is too many in the coalition (including Bernie himself) don't want to be part of it but want all the perks of the membership and apathetic to hostile to everybody else. Bernie can signal boost Abrams without angering the party. Its not like his reputation is going to be helped by that, its another addition of Bernie putting himself first rather than the group's agenda which will boost his own by working together.
What hurts is that since his failures in moving the movement forward won't be reflected on Bernie as it should be, it'll be on the party itself. Which he continues to weaponise because all that matters is to him is virtue signalling, not passing bills through congress which suit his agenda.
I dont know how much shmoozing is going to get people to help you pass policy. It seems shaming and popularity is much more effective given how people jumped on sanders m4a bill. Most politicians only care about being re-elected and money this state of the union aint going to change much. Also the movement not moving forward is more on the party, they shouldnt have to be dragged to the left by Sanders but they are. In what world would sanders be at fault for the party not adopting popular progressive policies.This is a double edged sword, which doesn't always pay off. It hinders his relationships with his colleagues, gives him more obstacles to getting laws he wants passed, and maintains a conflict between his group and everyone else's. There is a time to sit down and get to work with the group but if fails to do that all he's doing is posturing not among the changes they want. Too many are more interested in simply spiting the Man rather than the change they talk about, which hurts everybody.
Progressives policy moving forward and having a broad coalition only counts if he actually works with the group, as it is too many in the coalition (including Bernie himself) don't want to be part of it but want all the perks of the membership and apathetic to hostile to everybody else. Bernie can signal boost Abrams without angering the party. Its not like his reputation is going to be helped by that, its another addition of Bernie putting himself first rather than the group's agenda which will boost his own by working together.
What hurts is that since his failures in moving the movement forward won't be reflected on Bernie as it should be, it'll be on the party itself. Which he continues to weaponise because all that matters is to him is virtue signalling, not passing bills through congress which suit his agenda.
I mean, you didn't really answer — you just reiterated that you don't like him.This is a double edged sword, which doesn't always pay off. It hinders his relationships with his colleagues, gives him more obstacles to getting laws he wants passed, and maintains a conflict between his group and everyone else's. There is a time to sit down and get to work with the group but if fails to do that all he's doing is posturing not among the changes they want. Too many are more interested in simply spiting the Man rather than the change they talk about, which hurts everybody.
Progressives policy moving forward and having a broad coalition only counts if he actually works with the group, as it is too many in the coalition (including Bernie himself) don't want to be part of it but want all the perks of the membership and apathetic to hostile to everybody else. Bernie can signal boost Abrams without angering the party. Its not like his reputation is going to be helped by that, its another addition of Bernie putting himself first rather than the group's agenda which will boost his own by working together.
What hurts is that since his failures in moving the movement forward won't be reflected on Bernie as it should be, it'll be on the party itself. Which he continues to weaponise because all that matters is to him is virtue signalling, not passing bills through congress which suit his agenda.
This is a minor issue, but it's a symptom of a large problem with how Bernie acts. This is just Bernie being Bernie, which is an asshole to everybody else. Antics like this are how we got there in the first place, not all of us disliked him at first. But he drove us away once it became visible what he acts like as a politician. There are negative consequences to that when you pointlessly alienate allies, and for what? What does Bernie gain for angering us, with this or other things? Does he hate us and the party so much?
As always with Bernie, it's his lack of concern to healing wounds and bringing people outside his circle closer - instead he's like a Sith. You're with him or an enemy. The majority of the party are enemies to him, and he prefers it this to being friendly allies, in contrast to progressives like Warren. Who we issues with (like her DNA test) but overall we're not enemies to her because the party has the audacity to have an "establishment." The very thing he relies on to be remain relevant. When someone only attacks their allies, rather than making fields, they will enemies because why would anyone choose to be a friend to someone who will attack them like they're not any better than Republicans? This isn't a sudden change, either, Bernie's cultivated this both with voters blocs post-'16 and the party itself for decades. We'd be fools to let our guard down at this stage.
This argument doesn't make any sense at all. If progressive policies are failing to pass because Bernie is rude to other senators and that causes them to vote against those policies, the backlash for that should rightly fall on those senators. They weren't elected to have people be polite to them, they were elected to pass policies. If I knew for a fact that my senator was refusing to vote for legislation I supported because of a personal slight I would immediately ask for them to be primaried. Wouldn't you?
I dont know how much shmoozing is going to get people to help you pass policy. It seems shaming and popularity is much more effective given how people jumped on sanders m4a bill. Most politicians only care about being re-elected and money this state of the union aint going to change much. Also the movement not moving forward is more on the party, they shouldnt have to be dragged to the left by Sanders but they are. In what world would sanders be at fault for the party not adopting popular progressive policies.
Same fucking boat here. My taxes turned upside down by about 3 grand. Owe 300 or so . First time I've had to pay the IRS.Yup, same situation for me. The withholding calculator on irs.gov was not accurate unless you made exactly the same amount as the year before.
That's what happens when you pass tax cuts via reconciliation with zero notice.
Why would you hold the guy screaming at people to help him put out the fire responsible when they choose to do nothing cause they feel some type of way.Dude, they're people not robots. This is why it's vital for politicians to have allies, rather than enemies. If progressive policies fail that's on Bernie, they're his policies not his colleagues. If his voters want those policies to pass congress they should look to him to do the job he was voted in for, if he's unable to do that job properly find another horse who won't sabotage your agenda by being a jerk.
What excuse does Bernie have for being a jerk giving colleagues grief so they develop personal slights? I haven't heard him having any medical issues related to that, it's simply because he's just a jerk. For decades. If my senator gave reason for this about Bernie I'd want someone to primary Bernie with someone she who can get my progressive policies made without self destructing my agenda because he's unable to interact with people without making them angry by being a jerk.
Where's the accountability for Bernie? If any other politician did this to him would you be ok with it? Why does Bernie get a pass for being a jerk, when his behaviour can be the one thing stopping the legislation pass in the first place?
Why would you hold the guy screaming at people to help him put out the fire responsible when they choose to do nothing cause they feel some type of way
Edit: Bernies human too. Hes going to feel some type of way about people who perpetuate the violence of a broken capitalist system. Whose justified in their anger.
Why does Bernie get a pass for being a jerk, when his behaviour can be the one thing stopping the legislation pass in the first place?
Problem is most of them don't and you wouldnt see politicians like Booker working with Pharma companies only to change his tune after Bernie smashed him for it. Also Bernie doing his own state of the union is not some slap in the face to the dem party, when there were multiple in previous years. How about we hold the dick heads pushing against progressive policies accountable first and foremost.Because he's not screaming at them for help he's insulting them to their face and peeing on the carpet. People don't like that, even if they agree with him on many subjects.
They're people with jobs. Those jobs involve passing progressive policy. If they can't do those jobs because their human frailties keep getting in the way, maybe they should be replaced by robots!
Actually Bernie's behavior doesn't have any votes in the Senate. Other Senators do, and they're personally responsible for their choices. "I chose not to vote for this bill I would otherwise support because I was personally offended" is always a narcissistic dodge and the kind of rhetoric I associate with the Republican Party. It's about a hop, skip and jump from saying you oppose Medicare for All to own the libs.
Problem is most of them don't and you wouldnt see politicians like Booker working with Pharma companies only to change his tune after Bernie smashed him for it. Also Bernie doing his own state of the union is not some slap in the face to the dem party, when there were multiple in previous years. How about we hold the dick heads pushing against progressive policies accountable first and foremost.
Primary them all you like, we'll still get to this place because in the end this is about Bernie - not them.
Other politicians will walk away and do their own progressive bills, they may not be the same as Bernie's but they will help the cause and have a greater chance at passing since they get allies to vote for them.
Except not actually amusingCharlie Kirk's twitter feed is nothing but a string of old "Tales from my ass" GAF threads.