Calling out an a genocidal apartheid state is not empowering islamic radicalization. It's having some basic empathy for human beings.
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US Officials believe Iran is preparing imminent ballistic missile attack against Israel
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User banned (permanent): Modwhining in a sensitive thread, multiple serious bans for excusing genocide and racial violence
I'm sure Israel is capable of precision but if you do not care about the lives of the people you are attacking why waste the money?
Let's not equate how the military apparatus of a proper nation-state like Israel, with distinct military bases, with how a guerrilla militant group like Hamas operates. It's disingenuous. Hamas integrates itself into civilian installations for the very purpose of making themselves harder to detect and eliminate without harming innocents.
Also, this just in:
Six murdered in Jaffa terror shooting, many more wounded
Six were murdered and 16 were wounded to varying degrees, the two terrorists were shot dead by security forces.
www.jpost.com
The tenor of this thread seems to be in agreement with the sentiment, so not sure "two users" is an accurate representation of the reach of these beliefs on this forum.
I don't give a single shit about Joe Biden at this point and I'm not trying to defend his honor or good name. Attack away. He deserves harsh criticism and it's well earned..
I just personally think Natanyahu deserves a much more substantial chunk of this anger and aggression than Biden does.
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Respectfully, shut the fuck up. go hasbara somewhere else.
Israel claims to only do precision strikes, but i damn well intentionally targets innocent civilians as well
Western powers supported Saddam in his quest to take territory from Iran while oppressing Shias and Kurds in Iraq. That not only helped the Iranian regime solidify itself internally but enabled it to exert a huge influence on Iraq the moment Saddam was gone (by the hand of the US, mind you) since the majority of the population there wouldn't align with their Sunni neighbors after decades of being subject to human rights abuses by the dictator they had backed. Likewise, militias like Hamas and Hezbollah only came to be thanks to Israel's antics, both in terms of undermining secular Palestinian liberation groups and in invading Lebanon to install bloodthirsty militias that massacred Shias and Palestinians in the thousands under the supervision of the IDF.
So no, you can't really answer that Western involvement is a thing of the 50s.
You dont think it's credible based on what foundation exactly????
History and culpability doesn't get to just start arbitrarily or when you decide it should. And if we refuse to learn the larger context this situation exists in, how can you properly assess the situation and determine what is relevant or not?
Iran does arm Hamas and Hezbollah, but neither of those groups emerged from a vacuum. That doesn't justify the unjust acts they take, it would be great if I could Thanos snap every extremist right wing group on the planet out of existence, but your framing relegates the situation to a toxically reductive both sides framework. One that willingly operates from ignorance, that by extension, wittingly or unwittingly, helps prop up the status quo that has the ME on the edge of going up in flames amidst a genocide being committed by an apartheid state. An apathy, dismissive hubris, and disinterest in the context and history of people in the global south that doesnt contort to the already held imperialist narratives, that I would add has been at the heart of why we are where we are currently.
Stop trying to educate them americans think irans hatred for them spawned from nothing
You consider that 'defending'?
I'm explaining why I think he's now seemingly unable to stand up to Bibi's recklessness at this time. It's certainly been a focus of his administration this year to try to keep things from escalating into a major middle east war...and yet the Israelis keep snubbing him.
When exactly did I make this claim? It helps not to misquote people.
My country and MY people have been massacred in the last weeks by the zionist regime. Yes i will celebrate any damage done to any military instanve that has killed 100s if not 1000s of innocent civilians.
Is that supporting radicalization? Take that shit tf out of here.
If I'm out taking a walk, and your unleashed dog attacks me - I'm holding you accountable - not the dog.
You support genocide, just say it and move on.
Claiming my post advocates terrorism is some slimy and cowardly shit. I take it you feel that a military installation that is being used to butcher families should not face attacks in order to prevent speculative further IDF violence which is already happening and spreading to even more countries without cause. Israel is attacking whoever they want and they don't need a justification for it. A genocidal force losing a staging ground, even if only temporary, to prosecute their atrocities is a good thing. The attitude of posters here that Israel should simply be allowed to commit these attacks without retaliation says everything.
These missiles have secondary boosters that accelerate them before hitting their targets.
Unfortunate that the site the way it is instead of a machine for manufacturing consent for Apartheid like the liberal party is doing.
If one doesn't think Israel will stop if the US cuts off weapon aids, then I'm sure the US favorite tool of sanctioning the decision makers will suffice.
The narrative about withholding aids or making aids conditional is utterly unjustified and represent major efforts in social conditioning the public to ensure the offenders get away with no repercussions.
It's either you believe people responsible for crimes against humanity should be sanctioned or not. Them being adversaries or allies don't matter.
The narrative about withholding aids or making aids conditional is utterly unjustified and represent major efforts in social conditioning the public to ensure the offenders get away with no repercussions.
It's either you believe people responsible for crimes against humanity should be sanctioned or not. Them being adversaries or allies don't matter.
Wow! Eylon Levy has an account here!
Human shields, a dash of islamophobia, all the right ingridients.
This doesn't address my point: Joe Biden is violating US law, yes or no?Both the Senate and House majorities oppose a weapons ban. And in an election year, Biden is most likely wary of a ban backfiring at the polls.
He tried to pull that off once and the Republicans (as well as some members of his own party) publicly carpeted him.
1980 Elections
1984 Elections? A whitewash
Both extreme landslides.
Let's not pretend Biden's speaking from the same position of strength as Reagan et al.
Sure, he could certainly do more to stand up to Bibi. One wonders also how much his age is telling on him. He's been unduly cautious with making these strong decisions. Certainly he's made a hash of appropriately calling Russia's bluff.
To your election map point, I don't think it's credible to have to go back over 40 years in the past.
Yeah I thought ballistic missiles were basically freefalling at that point before they hit. Maybe they are cruise missiles?
funny how some here are upset about people being happy that an airbase that has massacred thousands in a genocidal campaign, calling us now a "breeding ground for radicalization" and whatnot when majority of palestinians on the site have been mocked, driven out, banned for daring to call the NYT on their bullshit, and told to stfu until after the elections for daring to protest the genocidal asshole that is Joe Biden.
I'm sure everyone here was quick to jump into the gaza and lebanon threads to protest the thousands killed by indiscriminate strikes on civilians, hospitals, schools, humanitarian agencies…etc. oh, wait, no they didn't.
Era and the liberals will never be able to reconcile their role in the genocide when their elected leaders are the ones supporting it and enabling it.
I'm sure everyone here was quick to jump into the gaza and lebanon threads to protest the thousands killed by indiscriminate strikes on civilians, hospitals, schools, humanitarian agencies…etc. oh, wait, no they didn't.
Era and the liberals will never be able to reconcile their role in the genocide when their elected leaders are the ones supporting it and enabling it.
People that think this is sports and that being anti-establishment makes them better than everyone else even when it includes advocating for the other theocratic war criminals
Imagine supporting an apartheid state because they're on your team. Actually, you don't have to imagine it because it's happening in realtime.
There's a difference between rightly calling Israel out for their actions while also not excusing the terrorism that's occurred to innocent Israeli civilians as well. Israel as a state plays a part in the radicalization of these groups through their violence, but more violence is not the solution
It's best to just ignore those spewing word for word talking points. There's no defense for Israel's killing spree, so they resort to the tried and true.
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