Show me where I said they were reasonable, they're as unreasonable as can be.
Understanding one's geopolitical enemy's motivations is not accepting them as justified.
In here either you accept the only way to see Russia and nato or you're a paid chill for the kremlin it's patently ridiculous.
Again the thread is about Intel (oh I have never heard that one before) from the US about a false flag operation used to justify war. Anyone who would say the same about any other country would be called a conspiracy theorist but we're supposed to just accept that as absolute truth?
1. Except your statements about what those geopolitical motivations are factually wrong, and easily proven to be such. You just keep ignoring that.
2. Russia has done this time and time again over the last 15 years! We believe it because we know factually it's the exact same playbook being used again. And US intelligence is not the only one saying this.
And on top of that, NATO does not want Russia to invade Ukraine. There is absolutely nothing for the West to gain from this conflict. Why lie about it?
Your whataboutism is leading you to make determinations that fly in the face of both reason and fact.